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$kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« on: September 26, 2013, 10:54:23 AM »
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We are making some changes to the moderating/jury system. (THIS IS IMPORTANT.)

We are making a number of changes to our software today. If you notice any bugs or problems, please post in this thread to let us know. Thanks.


The TOS checkbox is being removed from the "Alert abuse" function.
Until now, when you clicked the "Alert abuse" link to send an alert, there was a special checkbox that you could click to indicate that you believe a post violates the Terms of Service. Unfortunately, too often the TOS checkbox was used incorrectly -- either members would neglect to click it on posts that actually did violate the Terms of Service, or they would click it on posts that did not remotely violate the Terms of Service. Because of this, the DU administrators long ago stopped giving any credence to Terms of Service alerts, and instead have been reviewing every single alert regardless of whether TOS box was checked.

From now on, the DU administrators will be notified of every alert sent. In addition, the MIR Team will be notified whenever a post is removed under two conditions: 1) If the post is removed on a vote of 6-0, or 2) if the author of the post has fewer than 100 posts. We believe this will give the MIR Team all the information they need in order to keep DU clear of malicious intruders.


We have created a very limited system of software-initiated account reviews.
In our continuing effort to catch and remove malicious intruders, we are instituting a software system that automatically flags accounts for review under certain circumstances. If an account is flagged, then that account will be temporarily unable to post or perform some other site functions -- but the ACCOUNT IS NOT BANNED. If an account is flagged, its profile page will show "Status: Flagged For Review," and the account holder will receive an automated message indicating that they are under review. Please note that the account review function is narrowly aimed to try to catch malicious intruders. We aren't going to disclose exactly when accounts get reviewed, except to say that it is most likely to happen if a member gets too many posts hidden in a relatively brief length of time. (Note that this function replaces the auto-ban function, which has been retired.)


Members who are abusive while performing jury service will lose the privilege of serving on juries.
The administrators are getting increasingly concerned about the small number of members who repeatedly post rude juror comments while serving on juries. The vast majority of jurors are doing the job in good faith, but unfortunately a small number of people are not. Some people seem to be using the juror comments as a "free" opportunity to make extremely abusive comments to people -- that's not ok. If any juror has a history of inappropriate comments, or if any juror makes a single comment that is way over the line, then we are going to exclude that individual from jury service. If we do take away any person's jury privileges, we will do so transparently and make a note of it on that person's profile page. (Look for the words "Eligible to serve on Juries?")


STARTING 90 DAYS FROM TODAY, if you have five hidden posts on your account you will be unable to post.
After nearly 2 years on DU3, it is apparent that the vast majority of people are participating in good faith, and are making the effort to avoid posting inappropriate comments that might get hidden. However, there is a very small contingent of people who do not seem to be trying very hard, are not particularly embarrassed or ashamed that they are getting posts hidden, and continue to engage in disruptive behavior. For these people, we feel it is time to provide an incentive for good behavior. Starting 90 days from today, if you have five hidden posts showing on your Transparency page (a 90-day period), then you will be temporarily unable to post. In order to regain your ability to post, you will need to wait until the oldest post of the five is more than 90 days old and "falls off" of your record. At that point you will only have four posts showing on your Transparency page, and you will regain your ability to post.

If this seems harsh, I would like to share a few stats with you. Over the last 90 days, only one half of one percent of DU members who posted managed to rack up five or more hidden posts. 99.4% of actively posting DUers stayed under the 5-hidden-post threshold (and 86% had no posts hidden).

But no matter how bad your record is right now, please note that NONE OF THE HIDDEN POSTS CURRENTLY SHOWING ON YOUR ACCOUNT will count toward the five hidden posts. That's just math. Over the upcoming 90-day "grace period," all of the hidden posts you got up until now will fall off your record. So, if you change your behavior today and stop getting your posts hidden, you'll be fine. But if you persist in disrupting DU, and persist in getting posts hidden, every single post you get starting from THIS MOMENT will count toward your 5-hidden-post limit.

Please note that creating additional accounts in order to get around -- or preemptively avoid -- any restrictions on your account would be considered a Terms of Service violation. The best way to avoid restrictions on your account would be to avoid getting your posts hidden in the first place. It is not that hard.


And, on a completely unrelated note:

We have upgraded the ad code on our site to improve page load-time.
We use Google AdSense as our primary ad serving solution. Google recently unveiled a new kind of "asynchronous" ad code which (they claim) will not interrupt page loads. With our old ad code, if an advertisement failed to load or loaded slowly, then you would have to wait for the ad to appear before the rest of the web page would load. But with the new ad code, the ad code is loaded separately from the code that renders the web page. So you do not have to wait for the ads to load in order to download the webpage you want to see. Please note that at first you may see some extra white space near the top of the page -- if you do, click shift-reload/refresh on your web browser to fix the problem.

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Translation:

"See DUmmies I do look after you so very well - make sure you give me loads more money."

Naturally there then follows a vast number of posts offering to fellate $kammer...

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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 11:52:22 AM »
I predict an outbreak of bullying.

If the horde can bully disfavored members and provoke those members into saying things that get posts hidden then the horde can have the disfavored automatically suspended without an opportunity to appeal.





I know that's what I'd do.

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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2013, 11:59:36 AM »
You know, my fellow alum Skins has more brains in a strand of his hair, than the primitives do all put together, but that might not be saying much; it looks as if we're two or three steps ahead of him, as usual.

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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2013, 12:05:07 PM »
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From now on, the DU administrators will be notified of every alert sent. In addition, the MIR Team will be notified whenever a post is removed under two conditions: 1) If the post is removed on a vote of 6-0, or 2) if the author of the post has fewer than 100 posts. We believe this will give the MIR Team all the information they need in order to keep DU clear of malicious intruders.
Note to self, get all dormant moles up to 100 posts.  :fuelfire:
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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 12:23:53 PM »
gNads is gonna be in trouble!






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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 12:31:14 PM »
Back in the salad years of the Meta forum, this post would be good for at least 1000+ replies, 5 dogfights, one flameout, 16 accusations of misogyny, more iggy list additions than are countable, and a couple of ragequits.

It's just not the same anymore.  Sigh.

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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 12:45:26 PM »
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From now on, the DU administrators will be notified of every alert sent.

Translation: I've got nothing to do in my life that's constructive so might as well.

Good grief, he has to know how many thousands of alerts his hoard of kooks make everyday. Why subject yourself to that unless you got nothing else going on? I certainly don't have that kind of time, but then again I actually have a life and work to do.

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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2013, 12:48:15 PM »
Translation: I've got nothing to do in my life that's constructive so might as well.

Good grief, he has to know how many thousands of alerts his hoard of kooks make everyday. Why subject yourself to that unless you got nothing else going on? I certainly don't have that kind of time, but then again I actually have a life and work to do.

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If he is smart he just sets up a email rule that deletes the alert emails sent to him and let his minions worry about it.
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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2013, 12:52:54 PM »
You know, my fellow alum Skins has more brains in a strand of his hair, than the primitives do all put together, but that might not be saying much; it looks as if we're two or three steps ahead of him, as usual.

<<<learned all that knows about, from watching Democrats, liberals, and primitives.

<<<never knew a damned thing about "dirty tricks" until they showed him.

I still maintain the puppy piles I clean up on a daily basis have more intelligence than anyone, and I mean ANYONE, in the DUmpster.

Skinner must be takin' lessons from dear leader. So, sit down and shut up DUmmies and send Skinner yer money!

Can't have dissent in the ranks, doncha know! Even if others don't have any idea WTF they're talkin' about!

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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2013, 01:41:52 PM »
Jeebus, can't $kimmer post a thread without it being a gazillion paragraphs? :banghead:
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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2013, 01:44:48 PM »
Jeebus, can't $kimmer post a thread without it being a gazillion paragraphs? :banghead:

Wonder if he's been taking graduate level screed-writing courses from UGh-Pee?
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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2013, 01:50:33 PM »
Shades of Jimmy Carter micro management......and 5 strikes you're out....DUmmie baseball rules.
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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2013, 01:59:18 PM »
I thought the slow loading ads was a feature not a bug.  It's a good way to get the DUmmies to donate and go ad free.  (Never noticed the problem since I use an ad blocker there.)

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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2013, 02:05:46 PM »
Jeebus, can't $kimmer post a thread without it being a gazillion paragraphs? :banghead:

No.  He's the biggest windbag over there.  I can only take one paragraph and that's being generous. 

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Re: $kammer tries to rein in the DUmmies.
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2013, 02:07:35 PM »
I thought the slow loading ads was a feature not a bug.  It's a good way to get the DUmmies to donate and go ad free.  (Never noticed the problem since I use an ad blocker there.)

A lot of us know this already, and could possibly go in another thread as an FYI.  Anyway, it might be useful.  I use different browsers to log in to CC and DU.  That way they can't IP zap me when I click a link from the Cave.

And I've also noticed "Gearhart Chevrolet" ads on both.  :rotf:
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