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Offline txradioguy

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The Disconnect
« on: September 26, 2013, 08:50:55 AM »
There is a real and genuine disconnect between grassroots conservatives and many in Washington. Let’s first concede that, like with many politicians, a cult of personality has started developing around Ted Cruz, though from my vantage point it is not nearly as virulent as among some. But, there are some who, should Cruz fall flat on his face, would declare it all part of the plan and attack anyone who pointed out he wasn’t supposed to do that.
 
Cruz, in his filibuster, quoted Teddy Roosevelt’s “Man in the Arena” speech. He noted that credit belongs to the man in the arena “who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming.”
 
Cruz isn’t infallible. He admits it. But then his critics are not infallible either. Cruz, for all the flaws of his strategy, has articulated one. Other Republicans have not. They’ve only declared Cruz’s strategy, which is an actual strategy, isn’t really one because they don’t like it. John McCain, following Cruz on the floor of the Senate, declared surrender on Obamacare. Much of the base believes that privately the bulk of the GOP has given up.
 
There is also a Cult of Destruction intent on stamping out Ted Cruz as quickly as possible — often on the pretty lame grounds that he just isn’t honoring the well established rules of the Senate that never favor the bold or those willing to lead. Cruz is unwilling to play the game the way others have played it. The Establishment likes to punish that sort. In ages past, there was no twitter or Facebook to defend the boat rockers.
 
The base looks at Democrats after 2004 and don’t see a party that gave up, but doubled down against George W. Bush. They see a Republican Party that, after 2012, walked off the field. They walked off too.
 
Many of the pundits and analysts know how unlikely Cruz’s strategy is. They’re right. But the problem here is not that so many are convinced Cruz’s strategy won’t work, but that they either don’t want to try it in the first place or want to attack it with no real plan of their own.
 
The activists who support Cruz and Lee recognize their strategy might not work, but they also see it as the only strategy and the one that will, even if not successful, yield a better ending hand than the Republican Leadership would otherwise settle for. Their proof lies in Cut, Cap, and Balance, but for which the activists are convinced the GOP would never have even gotten sequestration cuts.
 
Special Report on Fox News has a very cool interactive feature. While watching the show, on Bing, viewers can follow along and track their agreement or disapproval of what was said.
 
Last night, at 6:53 p.m., Charles Krauthammer spoke. His statement, dismissive of Ted Cruz’s efforts, registered negatively across the board regardless of party or gender, and with great intensity in the opposition to his statement.
 
And therein lies a visible demonstration of the disconnect.

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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 09:12:14 AM »
"Might not work" is a silly understatement when "Can't possibly work" (In a direct sense, at least) is really what's going on, but there are times when it's time to fight even in a losing cause because the only alternative is abject surrender and total submission.  Bravo for Cruz!
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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2013, 09:21:35 AM »
"Might not work" is a silly understatement when "Can't possibly work" (In a direct sense, at least) is really what's going on, but there are times when it's time to fight even in a losing cause because the only alternative is abject surrender and total submission.  Bravo for Cruz!

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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2013, 09:32:09 AM »
"Might not work" is a silly understatement when "Can't possibly work" (In a direct sense, at least) is really what's going on, but there are times when it's time to fight even in a losing cause because the only alternative is abject surrender and total submission.  Bravo for Cruz!

I think that the establishment RINOs had better be very afraid of what Senator Cruz did.  While it may not have an immediate effect, I can guarantee that it will have a long reaching effect into the midterms.  I believe Cruz is playing the long game while the chattering class is deriding him for the short term.

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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 10:11:57 AM »
I think you're right, Wasp.  I think what the 21 hours did was change the psychology in the grassroots.  There are things worth fighting for, and still men & women to do it. 

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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 10:30:39 AM »
At the beginning of the Revolutionary War, there were many who were still loyal to the Crown.

Think about that, and where we might be today if they had their way.
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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 11:08:23 AM »
At the beginning of the Revolutionary War, there were many who were still loyal to the Crown.

Think about that, and where we might be today if they had their way.

At the conclusion of the Revolutionary war, the numbers came out to about 1/3 who were supporters of the Revolution, 1/3 who supported the Crown, and 1/3 who were nominally unaffiliated one way or another. It wasn't as if somebody ran a poll then, but that wasn't how the numbers worked out on April 19th, 1775.
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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2013, 11:47:20 AM »
I think you're right, Wasp.  I think what the 21 hours did was change the psychology in the grassroots.  There are things worth fighting for, and still men & women to do it. 

And exposed the RINOs that needed to be targeted as well.
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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2013, 11:55:07 AM »
If nothing else, this underlines the fact that the Senators will have to vote for Obamacare again.

But when Reid throws it back in the lap of the House...then what?

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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2013, 12:12:18 PM »
We've got a huge hill to climb:

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Schmidt said Monday on MSNBC’s “Hardball” that it’s time for the GOP to stand up to the “asininity” embodied by Palin and others.

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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2013, 12:39:39 PM »
We've got a huge hill to climb:

It's okay, not like we haven't been here before.   :-)
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Re: The Disconnect
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2013, 12:44:01 PM »
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John McCain’s former senior adviser Steve Schmidt says he has “deep regret” for helping to create a “freak show” wing of the Republican Party when he had a hand in bringing former McCain running mate Sarah Palin to the national stage.
That's okay, Steve.  There are just as many that are turned off by the spineless little bitch wing of the Republican Party, which you seem to be a proud member in good standing.
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