Pastors Urge Kirk To Support Slave Reparations Bill

[mrclose]

There's that word again.

Always wanting something for nothing!

CHICAGO (CBS) — Senator Mark Kirk ruffled a lot of feathers with his recent plan to round up 18,000 gang members but a group of South Side pastors say they have a way for him to redeem himself: Help pass legislation to give African Americans reparation.

Rev. Anthony Williams of Freedom Community Church in Englewood says it’s something that’s long overdue.

“Jews got their reparations from the Holocaust, Japanese got their reparations from the internment. It is time for us to get our reparations,” said. Rev. Williams.

Rev. Joel Washington says they also want Kirk to fight to keep mental health facilities on the South Side open, make sure federal money gets in the right hands and hold congressional hearings on violence and to do something about the flow of guns.

“We get arms from outside the community. We don’t manufacture arms, we don’t manufacture the weapons,” said Rev. Washington.

The pastors urge Kirk and Congressman Bobby Rush to push for HR 40, a bill that would set up a study on making financial reparations to descendants of American slaves.

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[mrclose]

One of their 'unspoken' and historically buried problems is .. Sorting out the Black Slave Owners from the actual slaves!

The Black Slave Owners who incidentally owned 'White' as well as Black slaves!

[mrclose]

You'll notice that the Al Sharpton, J. Jackson talking points aren't even mentioned for the payout?

You know the ones .. "centuries of exploitation, discrimination, and disinvestment"?

NO-O-O .. It's for the threat of rounding up 'Thousands' of Gang Members and .. of course .. S-l-a-v-e-r-y!

[Mr Mannn]

One of their 'unspoken' and historically buried problems is .. Sorting out the Black Slave Owners from the actual slaves!

The Black Slave Owners who incidentally owned 'White' as well as Black slaves!

There is no interest in presenting historical facts. They just want a handout based on skin color.
There will be no mention of 40 acres and a mule either (the real reparations).

[jtyangel]

And what of those is is with mixed heritage on one side as well as immigrants who came here AFTER slavery ended on the other side? Should I just pay myself a 10 spot and call it even? This whole thing is just silly considering how convoluted  blood lines would be at this point.

[vesta111]

And what of those is is with mixed heritage on one side as well as immigrants who came here AFTER slavery ended on the other side? Should I just pay myself a 10 spot and call it even? This whole thing is just silly considering how convoluted  blood lines would be at this point.

I just want my death dues, I have found 20+ men from my family that gave their lives to free the ancestors of todays family's from slavery.

 Who owes me money, the South for killing them or the family's of todays people, black, white or Indian that killed them  to keep people from RIGHTS in our country.     

As was said 20 acres and a mule was much more then the family's  of the dead received.

Ever wonder how the survivors of the Civil War managed to get back home when the war ended ? 

Survivors having lost an arm or a leg, hundreds of miles from home had to get where they wanted to anyway they could. Actually the saga of how Union folks got home was as bad if not harder then the battles the fought.

Fascinating history on that time in history, Boston census had more slaves owned by Black owners then Whites.     So do we give money to the slaves that were from many races, or include the former slaves that bought their freedom and became slave owners themselves ?

[NHSparky]

STFU, Vesta.

For the love of Christ, just stop.

[vesta111]

STFU, Vesta.

For the love of Christ, just stop.

So what is your problem Sparky, history cannot be denied ----except in the school text books that are cleansed to not embarrass or hurt the students feeling or cause a problem for their family if they come home and ask questions of their family.

Stop what ?     How do I ignore the letters written to my G- grand mother that the family handle with white gloves from that time period. 

Anyone looking into there genealogy will find all kinds of Government records that either contradict family history passed down word to mouth, give an in site into what was actually going on a century or two ago.

Sparky just what is your problem with me, I am an old lady that came from a family of very long lived  woman that enjoyed telling me story's about their youth, such times so far away in the past fascinated me.

 Much like me today telling my great grand kids about going to school and having the drills on Duck and Cover.    Kids today don't worry about an Atom Bomb, they worry about Terrorists hitting them at a Mall or sporting event.

[Ptarmigan]

The Jews and Japanese got reparations because they were actual victims, not their descendants.

These are churches advocating it and they are mixing religion with politics. Isn't that grounds for being not tax exempt?????????????? 

[mrclose]

Anthony Johnson

Anthony Johnson was believed to be the first Black to set foot on Virginia soil. 

He was the first black indentured servant, the first free black, and the first to establish the first black community, first black  landowner, first black slave owner, and the first person based on his court case to establish slavery legally in North America.  One could argue that he was the founder of slavery in Virginia.

In 1651 Anthony Johnson was given 250 acres as "head rights" for purchasing five incoming white redemptioners.

By July 1651 Johnson had five indentured servants of his own. In 1864, he brought a case before Virginia courts in which he contested a suit launched by one of his indentured servants, a Negro who adopted the name of John Casor.

Johnson won the suit and retained Casor as his servant for life, who thus became the first official and true slave in America.



In 1652 John Johnson, Anthony Johnson's eldest son, purchased eleven incoming white males and females, and received 550 acres adjacent to his father.

There were a number of additional Virginia land patents representing grants to free blacks of from fifty to 550 acres for purchasing white redemptioners.

[mrclose]

Well duh!

In case everyone missed it .. I had a two hundred year mistake in the Johnson post!
1651-1864?

There are a couple of possibilities:

He  (Johnson) lived a very long time?

Or I could have fat fingers and typed it wrong?

I like the long life excuse better!

[JohnnyReb]

Damn Yankees came down here and stole my family's slaves, their legal property.....when will I get paid for them?

[ironhorsedriver]

Well, Sure pay reparations. But only to the one's who where actually slaves. Going to be hard to find them though. All these people want is another handout.

[thundley4]

Reparations only to those willing to give up their US citizenship and repatriot themselves to Africa and never again visit the US.

[franksolich]

Oh God no; they already got their reparations, and more.

It's called the Great Society and War on Poverty.

[DefiantSix]

Oh God no; they already got their reparations, and more.

It's called the Great Society and War on Poverty.

All of that - as costly as it has been - is just blood in the water for the school of sharks the leftists have whipped into a feeding frenzy.

[freedumb2003b]

Reparations only to those willing to give up their US citizenship and repatriot themselves to Africa and never again visit the US.

Want to see the liberals back off? 

Just tell them that reparations will be paid for by a 3% national sales tax (also assessed on every import item brought from abroad).

They will run away so fast it will look like the opening of "F Troop!"

[freedumb2003b]

All of that - as costly as it has been - is just blood in the water for the school of sharks the leftists have whipped into a feeding frenzy.

I think the next census I will mark my "race" as Black and then demand my Reparations (I look White but I am jes passin').

You damn honkeys can't hold me and my (and Holder's) people down no mo'!

[DumbAss Tanker]

Reparations, no, repatriation, sure!  However, I expect no takers on that one...

[biersmythe]

Reparations, no, repatriation, sure!  However, I expect no takers on that one...

Well HI5 to you. If they agree great! if not then we are done with this crap!!! eff off. I am partial American Indian so what???? Indians had a FAR worse stent with this than the Blacks.....And the use of African American is a joke cause you are from a area not a continent! Where in Zimbabwe, or Chad or Algeria etc are you from? So that said i have no issue with any one that will call themselves a American!.....but it seems None of the listed wants to claim that. 

[freedumb2003b]

Well HI5 to you. If they agree great! if not then we are done with this crap!!! eff off. I am partial American Indian so what???? Indians had a FAR worse stent with this than the Blacks.....And the use of African American is a joke cause you are from a area not a continent! Where in Zimbabwe, or Chad or Algeria etc are you from? So that said i have no issue with any one that will call themselves a American!.....but it seems None of the listed wants to claim that. 

Ask for reparations, baby.

I also suggest the descendants of the Irish, the resident WWII Germans and Japanese, the Chinese, the Lithuanians, the Italians:  all should demand Reparations NOW!

[biersmythe]

Ask for reparations, baby.

I also suggest the descendants of the Irish, the resident WWII Germans and Japanese, the Chinese, the Lithuanians, the Italians:  all should demand Reparations NOW!

NO! I'm sorry I do not agree. You must be some sort of leftist F**k! I believe these peeps have no rights at all when it comes to this i was just giving an example of this in my life and want nothing these DEGENERATE F**KS are calling for cause I do no believe this at ALL!!!!

[biersmythe]

I am an AMERICAN....PERIOD Has nothing to do with how I look, or where i came from And I am insulted from your post that I should be like any leftist POS and take from the american people for anything that I do not deserve....And yes anything taken from the gov., Is taking from the american people PERIOD!

[DefiantSix]

NO! I'm sorry I do not agree. You must be some sort of leftist F**k! I believe these peeps have no rights at all when it comes to this i was just giving an example of this in my life and want nothing these DEGENERATE F**KS are calling for cause I do no believe this at ALL!!!!

Dude; he was being sarcastic. Let's try to keep the blood pressure from spiking unnecessarily, mkay?

[freedumb2003b]

NO! I'm sorry I do not agree. You must be some sort of leftist F**k! I believe these peeps have no rights at all when it comes to this i was just giving an example of this in my life and want nothing these DEGENERATE F**KS are calling for cause I do no believe this at ALL!!!!

Get with the program, baby.  We are ALL victims!!!  Every dollar given goes to every single victim in the USA (since it is 100% of the population, everyone gets everything which means no one gets anything -- you gettin' it now?)

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