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ConservativeDemocrat (1,235 posts)Top 20 signs you might be a counterproductive left wingnut 1. You blame Democrats for what Republicans doWhenever the GOP does something, that becomes the Democrat's fault.2. You imagine that President Obama is a dictator and he's deliberately making sure that Congress doesn't help peopleYou argue that all Obama needs to do is "fight harder" and "show some backbone" against the thinly-disguised GOP racists, and then they'd all just fall in line.3. You're not a regular campaign volunteer. In fact, you think writing screeds on DU is activismYou don't even know what cutting-turf is. You've never actually tried to convince an uncommitted voter, rather than attack people outside your little echo chamber.4. Most of your DU screeds are not anti-Republican, they're anti-DemocraticYou constantly crow that you're just "holding feet to the fire" except the vast majority of your screeds only bash Democrats. And often take on Republican coloring, like a reflexive belief in government and Democratic administration being evil.5. You refuse to credit the President for anything you actually like, instead focusing purely on your hatred of himIf the President gets a very good deal, 99% of what you want, you'll rant about the 1% he had to give up. "Compromise" to you means everyone agreeing with what you want 100%.6. No one can remember the last time you actually praised anyone or anything, except someone else's hate-filled anti-Democratic screedYou seem to never have anything positive to say, leading most to believe that you're a very angry, bitter, person, with little emotional maturity. And other hate-filled screeds are all you manage to praise.7. You refuse to acknowledge that people on the other side of a debate have any legitimate concerns at all - like trying to keep a dictatorial regime from gassing its own peopleYour fellow Democrats must be obsessed with bloodlust and love war, or at least that's what you believe.8. You never provide a argument about what should be done instead that would address the other side's concernsAn actual argument that would potentially be agreeable to both sides might actually change minds, but that would deprive you of your ability to feel sanctimonious. In fact, "Third Way" is an anathema to you.9. You counter any moral argument with a diatribe about some past bad action taken by the U.S. - nearly always done during Republican leadership 10 to 50 years agoAll reprehensible actions taken by anyone outside the U.S. can be justified in a kindergarten "we did it once too" by bringing up some ancient cold-war wrong, nearly always done during a Republican administration.10. Instead of congratulating Democratic leaders on making what you feel to be the right choice, you imagine you have "defeated" the people who were actually mature enough to change their mindsYou live in a black and white world of a zero-sum game, where someone else's winning means your losing and vice-versa. Therefore anything you like that happened is due to a "defeat" of the Democratic President.11. You see no difference between Democrats and RepublicansBoy, there is not a single whit of difference, because you haven't gotten your maximalist position on everything.12. Your arguments reference no facts, but are instead filled with unsubstantiated assertions. Your counter-arguments are ROTL iconsDid you know that President Obama is secretly twisting arms to destroy Social Security? Well, just because it isn't true doesn't keep you from stating it as fact. Any vague rumor is automatically true if it shows Democrats in a bad light. Your counterarguments typically run like this: "You're Quoting the New York Times?!? " You aren't actually laughing.13. You dismiss facts that don't fit your worldview, and personally attack people who provide themProSense drives you crazy, what with all her facts and figures and research that disprove your assertions. You attack people specifically when their references refuting your made-up B.S. are long and well documented.14. You Godwin political discussions, liberally attacking other Democrats with words like "Authoritarian", "Police State", "Hitler", "Fascist", "Corporatist"(the new dog-whistle for fascist)You call people who explain mainstream Democratic thought Obama "apologists", ignoring that there is absolutely nothing to "apologize" for. Paradoxically, taking actions to actually stop a dictator from gassing little children to death is something you are against. You never acknowledge that Hitler wasn't stopped with a sternly-worded letter either.15 You imagine that the DU is representative of mainstream Democratic thought, instead of being a place for the very liberal left to gatherAnd further, you actually argue that your positions are correct simply because the majority of the D.U. hold it. Here is a small point of fact: President Obama's approval rating among Democrats is 85%.16. You have "left" the Democratic party and/or are sole-arbiter on who is actually a "Democrat" and who isn'tAnyone who actually likes President Obama clearly can't be a real Democrat in your mind. You have also written a "Goodbye cold cruel DU - because people don't support me right or wrong - I will never vote Democratic again". For bonus points, you've done both.17. You continue to make excuses for NaderAnd others who strengthen the GOP by dividing the Democratic coalition.18. You imagine that anyone would pay to try to convince people like you that mainstream Democratic thinking is correctAny time you lose an argument, or someone shows your assertion is complete bullshit by referencing established facts (see ProSense), they are clearly being paid to do so. Never mind that actual Koch propaganda is as nutcase and unconvincing as you are, it's all a grand conspiracy, I tell ya! A conspiracy!19. You recognize many of these behaviors in the Tea Party, and recognize how much they're damaging the Republicans, but don't acknowledge the same in your own behaviorYour few moments of clarity come when you look at the GOP and see how their extremists are destroying their brand. But the similarities between the Tea Party and you (including a reflexive hatred of the U.S. government and conspiracy mongering) is something that you refuse to acknowledge.20. You are incredibly offended by this listAre you pissed off by this list? Maybe there is a reason for that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3707888try this. Yep its still up, and no Pizzas have been delivered.
Star Member TreasonousBastard (21,656 posts)226. Than ks-- it's not a major office, but I don't want a huge job
ConservativeDemocrat (1,235 posts)Top 20 signs you might be a counterproductive left wingnut1. You blame Democrats for what Republicans doWhenever the GOP does something, that becomes the Democrat's fault.2. You imagine that President Obama is a dictator and he's deliberately making sure that Congress doesn't help peopleYou argue that all Obama needs to do is "fight harder" and "show some backbone" against the thinly-disguised GOP racists, and then they'd all just fall in line.3. You're not a regular campaign volunteer. In fact, you think writing screeds on DU is activismYou don't even know what cutting-turf is. You've never actually tried to convince an uncommitted voter, rather than attack people outside your little echo chamber.4. Most of your DU screeds are not anti-Republican, they're anti-DemocraticYou constantly crow that you're just "holding feet to the fire" except the vast majority of your screeds only bash Democrats. And often take on Republican coloring, like a reflexive belief in government and Democratic administration being evil.5. You refuse to credit the President for anything you actually like, instead focusing purely on your hatred of himIf the President gets a very good deal, 99% of what you want, you'll rant about the 1% he had to give up. "Compromise" to you means everyone agreeing with what you want 100%.6. No one can remember the last time you actually praised anyone or anything, except someone else's hate-filled anti-Democratic screedYou seem to never have anything positive to say, leading most to believe that you're a very angry, bitter, person, with little emotional maturity. And other hate-filled screeds are all you manage to praise.7. You refuse to acknowledge that people on the other side of a debate have any legitimate concerns at all - like trying to keep a dictatorial regime from gassing its own peopleYour fellow Democrats must be obsessed with bloodlust and love war, or at least that's what you believe.8. You never provide a argument about what should be done instead that would address the other side's concernsAn actual argument that would potentially be agreeable to both sides might actually change minds, but that would deprive you of your ability to feel sanctimonious. In fact, "Third Way" is an anathema to you.9. You counter any moral argument with a diatribe about some past bad action taken by the U.S. - nearly always done during Republican leadership 10 to 50 years agoAll reprehensible actions taken by anyone outside the U.S. can be justified in a kindergarten "we did it once too" by bringing up some ancient cold-war wrong, nearly always done during a Republican administration.10. Instead of congratulating Democratic leaders on making what you feel to be the right choice, you imagine you have "defeated" the people who were actually mature enough to change their mindsYou live in a black and white world of a zero-sum game, where someone else's winning means your losing and vice-versa. Therefore anything you like that happened is due to a "defeat" of the Democratic President.11. You see no difference between Democrats and RepublicansBoy, there is not a single whit of difference, because you haven't gotten your maximalist position on everything.12. Your arguments reference no facts, but are instead filled with unsubstantiated assertions. Your counter-arguments are ROTL iconsDid you know that President Obama is secretly twisting arms to destroy Social Security? Well, just because it isn't true doesn't keep you from stating it as fact. Any vague rumor is automatically true if it shows Democrats in a bad light. Your counterarguments typically run like this: "You're Quoting the New York Times?!? " You aren't actually laughing.13. You dismiss facts that don't fit your worldview, and personally attack people who provide themProSense drives you crazy, what with all her facts and figures and research that disprove your assertions. You attack people specifically when their references refuting your made-up B.S. are long and well documented.14. You Godwin political discussions, liberally attacking other Democrats with words like "Authoritarian", "Police State", "Hitler", "Fascist", "Corporatist"(the new dog-whistle for fascist)You call people who explain mainstream Democratic thought Obama "apologists", ignoring that there is absolutely nothing to "apologize" for. Paradoxically, taking actions to actually stop a dictator from gassing little children to death is something you are against. You never acknowledge that Hitler wasn't stopped with a sternly-worded letter either.15 You imagine that the DU is representative of mainstream Democratic thought, instead of being a place for the very liberal left to gatherAnd further, you actually argue that your positions are correct simply because the majority of the D.U. hold it. Here is a small point of fact: President Obama's approval rating among Democrats is 85%.16. You have "left" the Democratic party and/or are sole-arbiter on who is actually a "Democrat" and who isn'tAnyone who actually likes President Obama clearly can't be a real Democrat in your mind. You have also written a "Goodbye cold cruel DU - because people don't support me right or wrong - I will never vote Democratic again". For bonus points, you've done both.17. You continue to make excuses for NaderAnd others who strengthen the GOP by dividing the Democratic coalition.18. You imagine that anyone would pay to try to convince people like you that mainstream Democratic thinking is correctAny time you lose an argument, or someone shows your assertion is complete bullshit by referencing established facts (see ProSense), they are clearly being paid to do so. Never mind that actual Koch propaganda is as nutcase and unconvincing as you are, it's all a grand conspiracy, I tell ya! A conspiracy!19. You recognize many of these behaviors in the Tea Party, and recognize how much they're damaging the Republicans, but don't acknowledge the same in your own behaviorYour few moments of clarity come when you look at the GOP and see how their extremists are destroying their brand. But the similarities between the Tea Party and you (including a reflexive hatred of the U.S. government and conspiracy mongering) is something that you refuse to acknowledge.20. You are incredibly offended by this listAre you pissed off by this list? Maybe there is a reason for that.
