St Patrick of Obama Driving the Progressives Out of DU

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Star Member Ken Burch (31,812 posts)

Do any other folks here get the feeling Obama is TRYING to drive progressives out of the party?
 
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The Nixonian secrecy shit.
The brutal persecution of Chelsea Manning.
The refusal to pardon Siegelman.
The continued flirting with war against Syria and Iran.
The continued refusal to defend the poor against right-wing smears on their character and morality.
The refusal ever to stand up against corporate power in any meaningful way.

Yes, the man has some real achievements. I'd never argue that it was worthless to elect him.

But what is the deal with this "f__k you" streak he keeps displaying towards the party's core supporters, the ones who stayed with him and defended him against constant right-wing and racist attacks?

Why does he keep acting like he has no obligation to treat us and what we care about with no real respect?

It's not like we ever did anything to him. And it's not like either the "national security state" or the 1% ever worked with him on anything that matters. 

Let the wailing and lamentation begin.  {Is Ken really Ben in drag?}

liberal_at_heart (5,338 posts)

1. Personally, I don't think he gives a second thought. I don't think he cares if we are here or not.
 
He's going to do what the Wasington insiders and lobbyists want him to do.
 

 

Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:05 PM

FirstLight (8,753 posts)

3. +1000
 
I think he's gone full corporate party on us...for a while now
 
 

Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:13 PM

Star Member enough (7,143 posts)

13. Yes, I agree. (nt)
 

Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:23 PM

LearningCurve (260 posts)

16. This seems to be the most likely
 

Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:31 PM

Demo_Chris (3,089 posts)

17. Exactly. nt
 

 
Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:42 PM

GoneFishin (562 posts)

23. Yep. +1000

 
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:02 PM

Star Member NYC_SKP (51,164 posts)

2. No, not really. I think he's like a bit of flotsam on a sea of awfulness...
 
...doing his best to steer the ship of state but surrounded by sharks and matters beyond his control.

And, I've got his back.


 

 
Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:07 PM

blm (90,055 posts)

5. Yep - amazing to me that some Dems want to make an already weak presidency even weaker.

I can't think of another president in my lifetime who has had more serious tonnage of sh!t being constantly thrown at him.
 

 

Response to blm (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:13 PM

Star Member NYC_SKP (51,164 posts)

12. It must be Friday.
 
Or Thursday. Or....

Response to blm (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:33 PM

Demo_Chris (3,089 posts)

18. Other than every President in the history of ever...
 
You think we went easy on either Bush or Reagan? You think Clinton had it good? Or Carter?

Enough with the 'Poor Obama, he's sooo helpless" bullshit. He's a brilliant man doing a marvelous job representing his employers. Sadly, those employers aren't us.
 
 

Response to blm (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:33 PM

Star Member winter is coming (1,921 posts)

19. If he's weakened by an OP on DU, I'm amazed he can find the strength
 
to get out of bed in the morning.
 

Response to blm (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:37 PM

mick063 (2,060 posts)

22. I want him perceived as weak
 
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I want him to be a shining example of what Democrats do not want. I want future candidates to fear taking up Obama's agenda.

If you have been reading, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Or do I have to type out the long list of issues again?


Screw the purity test response I know you might lend. You know this is not about a purity test. People that worked, donated, and voted for his second term gave him a long leash considering the House he had to deal with. It is his executive powers that have been horrible. His appointees. His priorities. His lending an ear to the wrong people. His poker chips used for negotiating with crazy.

Many people are just asking for shit to stop going the wrong direction. Asking for a representative cabinet. Asking for a representative agenda.

 

 
Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:33 PM

Star Member rug (50,174 posts)

21. Flotsam 2012 would not have been a very good slogan.

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:05 PM

Star Member CJCRANE (13,516 posts)

4. I get the feeling some people are trying to stir things up.
 
Look at what's going on in the world. It's pretty crazy out there.
 

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:08 PM

DeSwiss (18,617 posts)

6. K&R

“We may not always get what we want, but we always get what we choose. Therefore, choose wisely” ~Anon

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:08 PM

forestpath (2,958 posts)

7. Yes, but I also think it's as if he resents progressives for daring to exist and

showing him up for his empty rhetoric while he tirelessly puts the interests of the 1% ahead of ours.
 

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:09 PM

JaneyVee (5,151 posts)

8. I'm not sure we've had a president even remotely as progressive as he is.
Sure, he could be even more progressive, but historically speaking as far as presidents go he pretty much up there.
 

 
Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:09 PM

Star Member CaliforniaPeggy (105,463 posts)

9. I've gotten so I don't know what to think anymore.
 
I know he's personally a kind, thoughtful man......so how do you explain all these things you've listed?

I am at a complete loss.


And it makes me very sad.

A poem for Very Sad Calpiggy?
 
We thought Obama a stud
He turned out to be a dud
Spent the last four years pulling his pud
Now we are stuck with a jackass for a party symbol and President
Boo Hoo

Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:33 PM

Star Member winter is coming (1,921 posts)

20. +1. Biggest disconnect between personality and policy, ever. n/t
 

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:10 PM

Star Member xchrom (93,749 posts)

10. It's not just Obama. It's a 'list'.
 
Rahm

Clinton

Rubin

Etc
 

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:12 PM

99Forever (6,037 posts)

11. Yes...
.. and it's working quite well.
 

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:14 PM

KoKo (71,430 posts)

14. Nahhhh.. Why would he DO THAT? There's no reason that he
 
would think of such a thing. After all...we all went and re-elected him a 2nd Time.

How would he EVER THINK...that he doesn't Owe Favors to the Progressive Wing of the Party?
 

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:17 PM

Star Member winter is coming (1,921 posts)

15. No. It's just the usual "**** you unless I want money/foot soldiers" mindset. n/t
 

Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:48 PM

Star Member madrchsod (56,468 posts)

24. his big problem is not us, it`s the elections next year
 
if he loses the house again and god forbid the senate, history will judge as what he could have done but did`t.

whatever we think of him really doesn't matter. we HAVE to take the house and keep a senate majority. we have to start 
now.

Too late DUmmy Obie has already shot his quiver.  All your Senate and House belong to us. Obama is toast.  This has leggs.

[obumazombie]

The tide is turning !

[DumbAss Tanker]

Hey, you prog morons, he didn't need you to get re-elected.  He DID need the corporate support, the corporate media, and being Black (Sort of).  You are just excess and somewhat-embarrassing cargo at this point, especially since you tend to piss off his corporate support.

[obumazombie]

I thought one of the DUmp rules was not to criticize owebuma or any lib leader in office.

[Airwolf]

And you mental midgets voted for him so you might as well own up to your failure now. History is going to paint Barry Bigears as worst then Carter could ever be.

[RobJohnson]

Response to blm (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:33 PM

Star Member winter is coming (1,921 posts)

19. If he's weakened by an OP on DU, I'm amazed he can find the strength
 
to get out of bed in the morning.

 

[txradioguy]

Star Member Ken Burch (31,812 posts)

Do any other folks here get the feeling Obama is TRYING to drive progressives out of the party?

No idiot...he's giving you what you've been begging for for almost a decade!

The reason you're so damn upset is because YOU thought he'd ONLY unleash this crap on eeeevil Fundie Bu$hitler Rethuglicans.

For some strange reason you thought you were special.

[txradioguy]

Response to blm (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 08:33 PM

Star Member winter is coming (1,921 posts)

19. If he's weakened by an OP on DU, I'm amazed he can find the strength
 
to get out of bed in the morning.

Not frightened by an OP...but he seems scared to death of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

According to him...they are the reason he can't get things done...that they are more powerful than he is.

 

[BlueStateSaint]

No idiot...he's giving you what you've been begging for for almost a decade!

The reason you're so damn upset is because YOU thought he'd ONLY unleash this crap on eeeevil Fundie Bu$hitler Rethuglicans.

For some strange reason you thought you were special.

Dragoon, they are "special."

 

[USA4ME]

Were there progressives in the USSR who were upset that Stalin wasn't commie enough?

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[Fourwinds]

Its almost funny watching liberals these days. Hell, they spent so long playing "revolutionary" and "fighting" the man that now, when a liberal is "the man", they don't know how to handle it. Obama played the suckers like a piano and they STILL think he's on their side. Wow.

[BadCat]

Not frightened by an OP...but he seems scared to death of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

According to him...they are the reason he can't get things done...that they are more powerful than he is.

 

As I read somewhere else...I'm sure Rush enjoys living rent-free in obama's head.