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Offline zeitgeist

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Every now an then
« on: August 22, 2013, 05:53:55 PM »

even the blind hog finds an acorn.

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Pretty good older DU OP featuring a quote from Mike Rowe of Ditry Jobs fame.

Worth suiting up and swimming in the swill.  I will just post the quote you are on your own for their comments. 
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Ever hire a liberal arts major to fix your backed up toilet?  Naw, me neither. :-)
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Re: Every now an then
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 09:40:59 AM »
even the blind hog finds an acorn.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023461180


Pretty good older DU OP featuring a quote from Mike Rowe of Ditry Jobs fame.

Worth suiting up and swimming in the swill.  I will just post the quote you are on your own for their comments. 
Ever hire a liberal arts major to fix your backed up toilet?  Naw, me neither. :-)

One company that will remain nameless in my area ran well until they bought another plant that was not producing well.   This new plant was closed down and the mechanics sent up here.

The expert mechanics came in to be trained by the mechanics of the old factory and within a couple months everything went to hell.     The older mechanics knew ever nut and bolt of the place, most had been there 20+ years.    The new mechanics had their own ideas, average age was 25 and making close to the same wages as those with years of experience with the machinery.

Months went by when the lines and machinery were down for hours, none of them , the new guys, had any idea how to fix anything.  The old timers sat backed and laughed when some young upstart messed up and all the lines ran backward.       What did the old timers care they were close to retirement and worried about being laid off for some one much younger.

Trade jobs are so much different from the Educated 4 year college graduates, a teacher can graduate and step into a teaching job at $40,000 a year.   Trade school kids start at the bottom and have to keep up on training and schools forever.

Teachers may have to work 10 years to be paid $55,000 a year.     In 10 years a trade school graduate is making $65,000 and each year the money goes up.   Teachers usually do not get paid overtime, those in the work force do.

Surprised me that the office workers were on salary, we who did the so called dirty work made if we worked overtime  thousands of dollars more then them.  Office workers  who had a 2 year Associate degree made less then the workers that could not speak English.

I have been on this band wagon for years, we NEED more skilled workers, Crane Operaters, welders and both mechanics and plumbers to keep the city's running.   Come winter we need skilled men and woman to drive those Hugh state snow plows not someone that just graduated from Beauty College. 
       

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Re: Every now an then
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2013, 12:58:48 PM »
A doctor has his sink back up on christmas, and the flooding was making a mess. It was so out of control he called a plumber. The plumber comes out on the house call and fixes the sink in 15 minutes. It being christmas the plumber hands the doctor a bill for 800 dollars. The doctor in shock exclaimed 800 dollars ? For 15 minutes ? That's $3,200.00 an hour. I don't make that even during surgery. The plumber said "I never made that as a surgeon either".
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Re: Every now an then
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2013, 01:53:18 PM »
A doctor has his sink back up on christmas, and the flooding was making a mess. It was so out of control he called a plumber. The plumber comes out on the house call and fixes the sink in 15 minutes. It being christmas the plumber hands the doctor a bill for 800 dollars. The doctor in shock exclaimed 800 dollars ? For 15 minutes ? That's $3,200.00 an hour. I don't make that even during surgery. The plumber said "I never made that as a surgeon either".
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And Vesta, Thanks.  Your post reminded me of something I wanted to take care of down your way.  One of the things my dad was very vocal on was affordable local vocational training. 

Here are a couple posts from that thread you may get a kick out of.


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xmas74 (24,802 posts)

71. Probably because many of those schools have quite the wait list.
 
I've known people who have applied to votech and to the local community college for an LPN or an RN program-it's not easy to get in and the programs around here don't take all that many people.

I know plenty of people with medical experience who would love to go to nursing school. The problem is that there aren't enough openings.

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Bunnahabhain (447 posts)

73. Does not negate the fact we need more nurses
 
and H1b nurses are a way to get them. All I know is I want the call light answered when a patient presses the button.
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78. Or instead of granting work visas
we could offer more seats in nursing programs and make the degrees free or very inexpensive.
Most of the people I know in nursing right now work in nursing homes. Do you want to know why? It's because, even with the crappy hours, low wages and vague benefits, a number nursing homes will offer to pay their CNAs to go to nursing school, as long as they work off a contract. Some of the best qualified people to go into nursing come from nursing homes, mental health facilities and group homes. They are psych aides, CNAs, med techs and personal aides/hygiene aides. Instead, most of the nursing programs in my area would rather pick up a kid right out of high school who probably has no idea of what the work entails.

There is no reason why we should be granting work visas in the nursing field. Make the schooling affordable and more available and the candidates will line up. That, and treat the current workers in the field with a bit of respect.

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Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:47 AM

Bunnahabhain (447 posts)

80. Oh boy.

This post has a large amount of truthiness. I do find it cute that I have explained I'm in healthcare administration, and have been for two decades, and you feel you are going to inform me on things.

Btw, SNFs in my area pay RNs about $35 an hour. Is this now "low wage?" CNAs and PCTs make $14-18. This was a "living wage" last I checked. Benefits are never "vague" as any HR person will tell you.

Part of the problem is Americans (and Canadians) just plain do not want to do the work. It's a hard job and often deals with very intimate and nasty side of life. There is every reason we should be granting work visas as the US is not turning out enough nurses. Talk all you want about domestically turning out more nurses, but until that happens, do you or do you not want that call light answered? I know I do.


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