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Offline ChuckJ

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Hospital concerns
« on: August 22, 2013, 05:30:23 AM »
I think they are a few of our members who work in the healthcare field, and I know there are several who have had dealings with the healthcare field. Maybe you guys can ease my mind as I'm beginning to get frustrated with our local hospital.

Some time this past weekend my dad began feeling sick. I think he had nausea and diarrhea. He was no better Monday so my mom called the doctor. Since his regular doctor was on vacation she took him to one of those immediate care places.

The immediate care place checked him out and took x-rays. The lady he dealt with said that the x-rays looked like he MAY have a fold where is stomach and intestines joined that could be or lead to a blockage. She said that she'd rather admit him to the hospital overnight for observation and more tests.

He was admitted to the hospital Monday before lunch.

The part below is the part that I'm concerned about. I don't know if the hospital is actually following proper procedure or if they are just trying to milk his insurance.

On Monday the hospital did additional x-rays, a CT scan, and an EKG. I asked him if they'd given him a pregnancy test and he said not yet.

They gave him something to help with his nausea, but they have not, as of Wednesday afternoon, given him anything to stop the diarrhea.

They did NOT take a stool sample until Wednesday afternoon. They told him they would try to give him something for the diarrhea after the results of the stool sample test.

They did NOT give him any sort of antibiotic until Wednesday afternoon.

They did finally give him some solid food Tuesday night.

If he was suffering from diarrhea shouldn't taking a stool sample have been one of the first things to do? Especially before doing an EKG since he's had no heart problems.

Shouldn't they have known before Wednesday afternoon whether or not he needed an antibiotic?
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 06:37:34 AM »
From what you shared, I would be questioning his care, too.

I hope his regular doctor is back, soon - if not already.  And, I hope the hospital he is in doesn't use the "hospitalist" system where inpatients are seen by whomever is the "hospitalist" at that time.  I say that only because the "hospitalist" system prevents the primary physician from being directly involved in their patients' cares, and seems to rack up more tests and time than when a person is seen by their own doctor.

You may want to find out if your dad is still considered to be in the hospital under "observation," or has been admitted as an "inpatient."  Can make a difference when it comes to who pays what for the bill and how benefits are utilized.

Bottom line, I hope your dad recovers completely and soon!

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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 07:46:55 AM »
From what you shared, I would be questioning his care, too.

I hope his regular doctor is back, soon - if not already.  And, I hope the hospital he is in doesn't use the "hospitalist" system where inpatients are seen by whomever is the "hospitalist" at that time.  I say that only because the "hospitalist" system prevents the primary physician from being directly involved in their patients' cares, and seems to rack up more tests and time than when a person is seen by their own doctor.

You may want to find out if your dad is still considered to be in the hospital under "observation," or has been admitted as an "inpatient."  Can make a difference when it comes to who pays what for the bill and how benefits are utilized.

Bottom line, I hope your dad recovers completely and soon!

A "hospitalist" killed my mom in Tucson with his ****ed up treatments and using drugs that my sister specifically told him NOT to use due to her bad reactions to those drugs. He used them anyway.

Her regular doctor wasn't even notified that she was in the hospital.

I traveled down to Tucson, and by the time I got there my mom didn't even know I was there. She died in hospice 3 days later, never having regained consciousness.

Well, I confronted the son of a bitch, right in the hallway. I asked his why he did what he did, and he turned to walk away from me. Then I exploded! "Don't you walk away from me, you bastard!!!" Answer my damned questions!!!" All the nurses rolled their eyes and looked up at the ceiling; they hated him, too. He never responded.

I know lawyers in AZ, NV, OR, OK, NM, CA, TX and other places, and they all investigated it and told me that AZ law makes it about 99% impossible to sue a doctor for malpractice.

It still pisses me off, and this happened on 11/22/2000, just in time for a wonderful Thanksgiving.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 09:40:19 AM »
Is your dad under his regular now taking care of him? If not, call him in.

Depending on how old your parents are, you might want to get a medical power of attorney for him. If you have PoA, the doctor and staff, HAVE to answer all your questions and MUST include you in any decisions regarding his care, not just talk to your parents.

Also, I know you aren't feeling well, but someone needs to be staying in the hospital with him.

It's easy to get confused with what doctors are saying, and the older you are or more medicated you are, the more confusing it is. And the hospital staff is most likely overworked and overtired. Whoever stays, needs to be writing stuff down too.

When a friend went through breast cancer, several years ago, I stayed with her in the hospital during the double mastectomy and then when she ended up back in after her first chemo. During the 4 days after her surgery, one night they OD'd her on pain meds. She was flippin' out, I finally got a nurse in there, and it was only after looking at her chart and me telling how often someone had been in to give meds, they figured out she was given pain meds twice. Don't ask how they wouldn't know, cause I couldn't figure it out either! She couldn't even go to the bathroom without help getting her in/out, etc.

When M was in several years ago, I had fallen asleep and he decided to get up to go to the bathroom without waking me, he got caught up in the bedding and fell. Fortunately he didn't get hurt. I couldn't get any help to get him up, finally did it on my own (hurting my back), changed the bedding on my own, and got him settled and back to sleep. Still no one had showed up! I went to the nurse's station and went ballistic... so much so, that the night nursing supervisor for the whole hospital showed up. "His nurse" that night, a male nurse who was a real ass - even before the incident, was not his nurse again the rest of time he was in there!

This was 2 different hospitals, here in town, both with very good reputations. There is no way, I would stay alone or let someone near and dear stay by themselves these days.

There are negatives about staying with someone. Lack of sleep and the nursing staff depends on you for taking care of stuff like helping with either gettting to the bathroom or whatever the process, getting fresh water and something to drink for the patient, feeding them if necessary, all that stuff.

On the other hand.... at least staying with them, you know if the nursing staff isn't taking care of your loved one, YOU are!

Here, for the most part, the hospitals' nursing staffs do the best they can, they are just short staffed and overworked. And are really appreciative that you are there with your family member.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 10:06:19 AM »
Unfortunately, hospitalists are become more common as each day passes - in hospitals all over this country.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 10:07:02 AM »
Unfortunately, hospitalists are become more common as each day passes - in hospitals all over this country.

Aren't they in all the "for profit" hospitals?
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2013, 10:10:11 AM »
Aren't they in all the "for profit" hospitals?

Don't really know, but it would not surprise me, Deb.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2013, 01:34:23 PM »
First to debk, thankfully he hasn't spent much time up there by himself. Either I've been there, mom's been there, my niece has been there or someone from the church has been there.

I want to update you guys, but first I need to add something that I didn't mention in my previous post because it didn't seem to me to be relevant to the immediate situation.

Either when they did the CT scan or x-rays at the hospital they noticed a spot on his lung.

Dad already knew he had a spot (scar tissue) on his lung because his regular doctor had noticed it a year or two back and sent him to a respiratory specialist to check the spot and for chronic bronchitis. The respiratory specialist has a satellite office in dad's town. His main office is in a neighboring town. This doctor is not on staff or affiliated in any way with the hospital that my dad is in.

Despite the above, instead of emailing the respiratory specialist a copy of the x-ray or CT scan for review, the hospital actually called the doctor and requested he come to the hospital to see my dad. The respiratory doc, who was scheduled to be in his satellite office today, agreed to stop by. I guess this ended up being a God-send.

When the respiratory doc got there this morning, mom told him that they were fed up and ready to transfer to another hospital. That they still had not been told if my dad did or did not have an intestinal blockage and that dad still hadn't been given anything for his diarrhea.

The VISITING respiratory doc told them both that the spot on the x-ray (or CT) may very well be the previous discovered scar tissue but that he would have to check his records to know for sure. He then said that even if the spot was new that the immediate concern, before they could address the spot, would be taking care of the diarrhea. Within two minutes this VISITING respiratory doctor had pulled up dad's hospital records and told him that he did NOT have a blockage nor did he have the beginnings of a blockage. Then he told them to let him speak to someone real quick and he'd see if he could take care of the diarrhea problem. Shortly afterword, a nurse showed up with medication for diarrhea. Since taking the drug around 9 this morning dad's only had to go to the bathroom once.

Why in the world is it that a visiting respiratory doctor with no ties to the hospital can explain and take care of things while the hospital's doctors can't seem to do anything except ring up hospital charges?
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2013, 02:34:39 PM »
First to debk, thankfully he hasn't spent much time up there by himself. Either I've been there, mom's been there, my niece has been there or someone from the church has been there.

I want to update you guys, but first I need to add something that I didn't mention in my previous post because it didn't seem to me to be relevant to the immediate situation.

Either when they did the CT scan or x-rays at the hospital they noticed a spot on his lung.

Dad already knew he had a spot (scar tissue) on his lung because his regular doctor had noticed it a year or two back and sent him to a respiratory specialist to check the spot and for chronic bronchitis. The respiratory specialist has a satellite office in dad's town. His main office is in a neighboring town. This doctor is not on staff or affiliated in any way with the hospital that my dad is in.

Despite the above, instead of emailing the respiratory specialist a copy of the x-ray or CT scan for review, the hospital actually called the doctor and requested he come to the hospital to see my dad. The respiratory doc, who was scheduled to be in his satellite office today, agreed to stop by. I guess this ended up being a God-send.

When the respiratory doc got there this morning, mom told him that they were fed up and ready to transfer to another hospital. That they still had not been told if my dad did or did not have an intestinal blockage and that dad still hadn't been given anything for his diarrhea.

The VISITING respiratory doc told them both that the spot on the x-ray (or CT) may very well be the previous discovered scar tissue but that he would have to check his records to know for sure. He then said that even if the spot was new that the immediate concern, before they could address the spot, would be taking care of the diarrhea. Within two minutes this VISITING respiratory doctor had pulled up dad's hospital records and told him that he did NOT have a blockage nor did he have the beginnings of a blockage. Then he told them to let him speak to someone real quick and he'd see if he could take care of the diarrhea problem. Shortly afterword, a nurse showed up with medication for diarrhea. Since taking the drug around 9 this morning dad's only had to go to the bathroom once.

Why in the world is it that a visiting respiratory doctor with no ties to the hospital can explain and take care of things while the hospital's doctors can't seem to do anything except ring up hospital charges?

Not to be flip, Chuck, but that hospital is practicing what it's going to be like under Obamacare.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2013, 02:45:52 PM »
Not to be flip, Chuck, but that hospital is practicing what it's going to be like under Obamacare.

I actually told my dad earlier today that I supposed that the hospital was trying to pocket as much as they could before Ocare went into effect.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2013, 03:30:29 PM »
First to debk, thankfully he hasn't spent much time up there by himself. Either I've been there, mom's been there, my niece has been there or someone from the church has been there.

I want to update you guys, but first I need to add something that I didn't mention in my previous post because it didn't seem to me to be relevant to the immediate situation.

Either when they did the CT scan or x-rays at the hospital they noticed a spot on his lung.

Dad already knew he had a spot (scar tissue) on his lung because his regular doctor had noticed it a year or two back and sent him to a respiratory specialist to check the spot and for chronic bronchitis. The respiratory specialist has a satellite office in dad's town. His main office is in a neighboring town. This doctor is not on staff or affiliated in any way with the hospital that my dad is in.

Despite the above, instead of emailing the respiratory specialist a copy of the x-ray or CT scan for review, the hospital actually called the doctor and requested he come to the hospital to see my dad. The respiratory doc, who was scheduled to be in his satellite office today, agreed to stop by. I guess this ended up being a God-send.

When the respiratory doc got there this morning, mom told him that they were fed up and ready to transfer to another hospital. That they still had not been told if my dad did or did not have an intestinal blockage and that dad still hadn't been given anything for his diarrhea.

The VISITING respiratory doc told them both that the spot on the x-ray (or CT) may very well be the previous discovered scar tissue but that he would have to check his records to know for sure. He then said that even if the spot was new that the immediate concern, before they could address the spot, would be taking care of the diarrhea. Within two minutes this VISITING respiratory doctor had pulled up dad's hospital records and told him that he did NOT have a blockage nor did he have the beginnings of a blockage. Then he told them to let him speak to someone real quick and he'd see if he could take care of the diarrhea problem. Shortly afterword, a nurse showed up with medication for diarrhea. Since taking the drug around 9 this morning dad's only had to go to the bathroom once.

Why in the world is it that a visiting respiratory doctor with no ties to the hospital can explain and take care of things while the hospital's doctors can't seem to do anything except ring up hospital charges?

Just wait until you place a relative in a nursing home, be it long or short time care as when you go on vacation and want a family member to be cared for a month or more while you are gone.

I was on vacation from my job at a nursing home and came home to visit family.   My Grandmother went to a short time nursing home when her Son went on a 6 week vacation.

I went to visit her and was outraged, 3pm around shift change she was in a wheel chair in her nightgown with eggs from breakfast all over the front of her.   She could not find her teeth and her wheel chair was stuck in a corner of the room, she could not leave the room.

I got her loose, up on the bed cleaned her up and changed her clothing.   Poor woman had sat in that chair for hours and urinated all over herself.  I was red hot but as it was shift change the day nurses were going home and the 2nd shift just come in.     No way to talk to anyone on first shift about the condition she was in.

This woman I had spoken to on the phone 2 weeks before she went for care now had no idea who I was, she was really out of it.    

I went home and asked my mother just what medication she was on, she read off a list and I freaked as 2 were strong narcotic drugs that she  did not need.

Mom called the facility and told me that the people she spoke with told her I had misunderstood what I saw and Mom became afraid that if she pushed this it would some how go bad for her mother.  Something about her generation that believes if one complains about something those in charge will  make things even worse for whoever.

Mom and I got into one heck of a fight  over Grandmas care and I ended going home early.  Grandma fell being escorted to the bathroom a few weeks later ,  broke her hip and died on the operating table

FACTS, the people that get the best care in hospitals, nursing homes or home care are the ones that have family  and friends  that keep bugging the care givers.   The more people that do the questioning the better care they get.

Doctors hate this as they fear a law suit if they over medicate a patient.  Health facilities also hate this as they know when a Doctor orders a drug they know is contraindicated by other drugs, and dispense it anyway and patient dies-- if the family looks into this it will be the low end of the pole that gets fired, some young LPN just following orders.

Sorry to say this but for good care, get in there and drive the staff nuts, speak up, someone one with a catheter bag needs changing, Say something if the Nurse does not wash her hands first.    Same if one is changing IV bags, or giving shots.

Remember no one is to touch a patient in Hospital or nursing home without first washing their hands.

This goes for the Doctors also, they come into your room and do not wash their hands, who knows what crap they have on them from the last patient.     Don't just ask for it------DEMAND IT
 

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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2013, 04:56:53 PM »
Mom finally got to talk to the hospital doctor today. I think she actually caught him while he was in the room and told him that he was going to answer some questions.

He told her the reason they waited so long to take the initial stool sample is because some things take awhile to show up in the stool. I would assume he's talking about things having an incubation period which I understand; however, I would also think that if you're already sick enough that you're constantly running to the bathroom that whatever you have has already incubated.

They took another stool sample today. They also said his white count is low so they want to consult with an oncologist. Mom says his white-count gets low whenever he gets sick and that his regular doctor has had it check several times. Of course, I realize that it's better to be safe than sorry, but the whole thing is starting to get frustrating.

I actually told my cousin today that it's been a long time since I threw a redneck-embarass-everybody fit, but I'm real close to start telling people where to go and what to kiss.

Also I want to add the debk mentioned that I wasn't feeling well. I hadn't posted this in my initial post about my whatever flu, but I seem to be recovering. I still occasionally have a cough and nausea, but I figure a large part of the nausea is from nerves and "worriation".
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2013, 06:09:48 PM »
Glad you got some help from the other doctor.

Hospitalists are being utilized in all sorts of hospitals, regardless of whether or not they are for- or not-for-profit.

A healthcare POA does not ensure that the POA is told everything and included in decisions.  It is only there if the patient cannot make healthcare decisions for themselves.  They are generally overused by healthcare facilities resulting in a few patients suing the company for telling their business when a POA disagrees with what the patient wanted and the family/POA and patient start to fight. 

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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2013, 08:16:56 PM »
Chuck, I'm sorry that your father is having such an awful hospital experience  :(

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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2013, 08:59:06 PM »
A "hospitalist" killed my mom in Tucson with his ****ed up treatments and using drugs that my sister specifically told him NOT to use due to her bad reactions to those drugs. He used them anyway.

Her regular doctor wasn't even notified that she was in the hospital.

I traveled down to Tucson, and by the time I got there my mom didn't even know I was there. She died in hospice 3 days later, never having regained consciousness.

Well, I confronted the son of a bitch, right in the hallway. I asked his why he did what he did, and he turned to walk away from me. Then I exploded! "Don't you walk away from me, you bastard!!!" Answer my damned questions!!!" All the nurses rolled their eyes and looked up at the ceiling; they hated him, too. He never responded.

I know lawyers in AZ, NV, OR, OK, NM, CA, TX and other places, and they all investigated it and told me that AZ law makes it about 99% impossible to sue a doctor for malpractice.

It still pisses me off, and this happened on 11/22/2000, just in time for a wonderful Thanksgiving.

How sad.

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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2013, 10:35:59 PM »
Vesta's right about people not wanting to question doctors or bitch about nursing staff in a hospital, and older people from the generation before mine are even less likely to complain...because after all, doctors are gods and nurses are angels.  ::)

I have blown up and not really cared who got pissed about it. When M's father was in very bad condition up in a Covington KY hospital (across river from Cincy), I was staying there while M was running back and forth between here and there trying to go some work.  I was in his room and overhead one of his doctors - she was from India or somewhere similar, and a resident - talking to M on the phone while he was driving up from here to get to the hospital. This stupid stupid woman was asking M what end of life measures he wanted to use on his father!!!! She was at least 20-25 FEET from the door to Papa's room, yet I could hear every word she was saying - everyone within 50 feet could hear her!!! I went out to the nurses station, grabbed the phone out of her hand, told M to disregard what the woman was asking him, to drive carefully, and we would talk when he got to the hospital. And then I went ballistic on the woman. The nicest thing I told her was if she even stepped foot in the man's room, I would be calling a lawyer. The chief resident was in the room shortly after....not sure who called her (who was wonderful).... but she assured me the dumb one would not be back. Papa was moved to hospice less than a week later and died the next day. I will never forget how mad I was that a doctor - and a woman no less - could be so incredibly insensitive, and so incredibly stupid.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2013, 01:42:38 AM »
Some time this past weekend my dad began feeling sick.

I hope your dad quickly heals.


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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2013, 06:12:52 PM »
Dad got home about an hour ago. They claim he had salmonella. Funny thing is that the test that they done on his third day showed that he did NOT have several of the common food borne illnesses including salmonella. He suddenly had salmonella today when they were doing the paperwork.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2013, 12:19:14 AM »
Weird. 

I'm glad he got to come home.  I'm going to assume he's feeling and doing better.  Hope he never has a bout with whatever it was again.

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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2013, 02:13:57 AM »
Dad got home about an hour ago. They claim he had salmonella. Funny thing is that the test that they done on his third day showed that he did NOT have several of the common food borne illnesses including salmonella. He suddenly had salmonella today when they were doing the paperwork.

I'm glad he was able to go home. That is the Blessing!

I know an older lady in Illinois, she is 92. She ended up in the hospital due to a doctor over prescribing prednisone for her back pain. She complained of a UTI and the doctor called in a script for Xanax to calm her down. Her son was upset at his sister for "doing what her doctor said" when his mother was in pain and was asking to go to the hospital. Her doctor's office told her "Medicare might not pay for the hospital." Her son called an ambulance, her kidneys were full of urine, and they said the high amounts of medication that her doctor had her on was causing episodes of dementia and other issues. They also found her gal bladder needed to come out.

Of course the hospital had her convinced that she might of accidently took too much medication. The doctor had her on 80 mg a day. She keeps a note book of what she takes and when she takes it, there was no mistake on her part but it kept her second guessing the whole time she was going through this. She spent almost 3 weeks in the hospital.

This lady is full of energy normally. Even at 92 she was still going to Mass every morning and helping in the kitchen to feed the Nuns and staff every morning. She usually arrived at the church before the custodian! She also was a full time caretaker for one of her friends that did not have any family that cared, she did that up until she was 89 years old!

Her primary doctor had been her PCP for years. She simply trusted the doctor without question. It about killed her.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2013, 08:24:57 AM »
Her doctor's office told her "Medicare might not pay for the hospital."  Hopefully they were referring to the "bounce back" penalty that hospitals are now dealing with.  But whoever told her that doesn't really understand it.  Just like most providers are struggling to make sense of it.  Overall it's a good thing, but difficult to manage.  There are (as of Friday) three diagnoses that are being tracked on the anti-bounceback program.  UTIs are one of them.


Of course the hospital had her convinced that she might of accidently took too much medication. The doctor had her on 80 mg a day. She keeps a note book of what she takes and when she takes it, there was no mistake on her part but it kept her second guessing the whole time she was going through this. She spent almost 3 weeks in the hospital.  I hate, hate, hate when the first thing medical folks do is blame the elder on over medicating themselves!  Bottom line, I'm glad she came through it. 

 

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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2013, 08:57:04 AM »
When a person has diarrhea, sometimes it's best to let it run its course. Stool and urine samples don't often provide same day results because they have to culture them. That takes 72 hrs., minimum. While I was in the hospital last March & April, they tested my stool for the c difficile organism several times because I was on all sorts of antibiotics. Just recently, I had a urine sample done. They had some preliminary results the next day. However, they wanted to culture the sample and at the same time find out what, if any, organism it was and what medications it was susceptible to and what meds it was resistant to. All of that takes some time. This could have been the case with your dad.
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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2013, 09:07:10 AM »


Thank you.

I think her doctor was not taking her serious or did not want her to go to the hospital as he had her over medicated. That is a good point about the bounce back but this person is the type of person that would not simply ask to go to the hospital unless she really was in major pain....she has taken falls and such and never went to get it checked out and had to be forced to go!  I also forgot to mention the doc also had her on two anti depressants but was doing nothing for the UTI and the pain kept getting worse. I'm glad her son called the ambulance and happy she pulled through.

Doctor's offices should not be trying to decide what will be covered at the hospital, they do the same stuff when they quote patients prices on medication or constantly write scripts that require prior auth or not covered at all.  

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Re: Hospital concerns
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2013, 06:38:21 PM »
When a person has diarrhea, sometimes it's best to let it run its course. Stool and urine samples don't often provide same day results because they have to culture them. That takes 72 hrs., minimum. While I was in the hospital last March & April, they tested my stool for the c difficile organism several times because I was on all sorts of antibiotics. Just recently, I had a urine sample done. They had some preliminary results the next day. However, they wanted to culture the sample and at the same time find out what, if any, organism it was and what medications it was susceptible to and what meds it was resistant to. All of that takes some time. This could have been the case with your dad.

Thor, I have no problem with a culture taking 72 hours. My problem is that they waited until the third day he was in the hospital to actually take a stool sample.

I went by and saw him today. He's happy to be home, was in a good mood, and says he's feeling better, but mom said he still had a fever last night.
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