We should STOP using the term "Islamist" on DU

[Carl]

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 Tue Aug 20, 2013, 08:33 PM

 Ken Burch (31,762 posts)

We should STOP using the term "Islamist" on DU

 

Last edited Tue Aug 20, 2013, 09:55 PM USA/ET - Edit history (3)
 1)It isn't a real word.

2)It was popularized as a propaganda term by George W. Bush.

3)It's one of the ugliest terms in right-wing rhetoric in North America, the UK and Europe and it gives aid and comfort to reactionaries and anti-Muslim bigots anytime non-right wing people repeat it.

4)It doesn't actually MEAN anything.

5)None of the crimes that were committed in the name of this non-word had any connection to any of the teachings of Islam.

6)it insults the 99.99% of Muslims who haven't ever done anything harmful to anybody.

7)It grates on the ears every time anybody says it and it irritates the eye,s and mind anytime anybody posts it.

We are better people and this is a better discussion board than the sort of place that uses such terms. Let's get this annoying, bigoted earworm out of DU's collective head.

Some argument but just as much idiocy.

Response to Ken Burch (Reply #15)

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:07 PM

VADem1980 (22 posts)
20. BIG difference.

Islam constitutes a political minority suffering justifiable rage stemming from years long abuse at the hands of white colonial oppressors.

"Islamist" is a racist term as it conflates Muslims with terrorists and should thus not be used.

Mole or colossal stupidity...it is hard to tell most days now.

Zorra (19,976 posts)
11. I've always used the words islamist and christianist as words for

hateful, bigoted RW quasi-Muslims and RW quasi Christians who have no real clue about the doctrines they purport to believe.

I think they are good, simple labels for this purpose, words that distinguish these groups from sincere spiritual Muslims and Christians, who I do not wish to disrespect by lumping them in with religious poseurs.

malaise (109,113 posts)
12. +1,000

It's the new word to replace communist. The industry needs an 'ist' enemy.

MrScorpio (56,692 posts)
13. Agreed! nt

No one cares what you thhink,remember?

AverageJoe90 (5,790 posts)
16. It's not an illegitimate word, IMO.....

There ARE Islamic extremists who DO seek malevolent aims, using religion as one of their weapons and/or as an excuse for their agitprop(just as the Bible get used by the Christian Far-Right!); the Muslim Brotherhood is a great example.

Though it certainly has been abused over the years, sadly: 90% of Muslims are decent people......and even many of the 9-10% who may not be so much wouldn't necessarily resort to terrorism.....

That is odd because it would seem 90% around the world are blood thirsty savages.

xfundy (2,747 posts)
21. "Chiristianists"

is an equally valid, if not moreso, term.

Christianists similarly pervert their "religion" into a hateful, tyrannical, hateful, dangerous movement. In fact, they have taken over the religion in the USA

Of course it always has to be about Christians that blow up buildings,slaughter people on the street for their faith,send children with bombs on their backs into crowded areas...oh wait

Yes,they are that evil at the DUmp.

[Aristotelian]

xfundy (2,747 posts)
21. "Chiristianists"

is an equally valid, if not moreso, term.

Christianists similarly pervert their "religion" into a hateful, tyrannical, hateful, dangerous movement. In fact, they have taken over the religion in the USA

I'll take you up on this xfundy - you show me a single example where a 'Christian' has thrown acid in the face of a woman for trying to get an education; a single case where a 'Christian' has used violence or the threat of violence to replace a western constitution with a theocracy; a single case where a 'Christian' has deliberately targeted the place of worship of a non-Christian religion for destruction...I could go on all day...then I'll accept your terminology.

[Skul]

6)it insults the 99.99% of Muslims who haven't ever done anything harmful to anybody.

   
Those wishing to live at peace with others, might be 50/50....in civilized cultures.
Trot off to the ME, and 10% is probably closer to the truth.

[txradioguy]

We should STOP using the term "Islamist" on DU

[Freeper]

Homophobe isn't a real word yet they use that all the time.

[Wineslob]

DUmmies................................   you fuggin idiots DESERVE the pain and suffering Islam brings.

[JohnnyReb]

OK, I'll use, "The followers of the criminal prophet, Mohammed, piss and dog shit be upon him". 

[Ptarmigan]

God, they are so stupid. 

[Rebel]

VADem1980 (22 posts)

20. BIG difference.

Islam constitutes a political minority suffering justifiable rage stemming from years long abuse at the hands of white colonial oppressors.

I really do hate these ****ing people. 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Homophobe isn't a real word yet they use that all the time.

You're just a Teahadist.

[jukin]

I'll will continue to use muzzie or muzzie piece of shit. Islam is a cult built around death and pedophilia. The cult of islam has many traits in common with the cult of leftism (AKA: communism/socialism/fascism/progressivism/Liberalism/leftism...).

Both cults:
1. Hate America.
2. Hate Christians.
3. Hate whitey.
4. Hate Jews.
5. Feel the ends justify the means.
6. Are anti-science.
7. Intolerant of other thought.
8. Rewrite history.
9. Into group think.
10. Are for diversity as long as everyone thinks the same.
11. Call themselves peaceful but will lash out in violence at the smallest provocation.
12. Have the same talking points.

What they don't have in common:
1. The cult of islam does not think that faggots are superior human beings.

[hillneck]

malaise (109,113 posts)
12. It's the new word to replace communist. The industry needs an 'ist' enemy.

No, it didn't replace anything.  Another just got added.  As far as the enemy, when someone targets innocent people to inflict pain, suffering, and terror, they are the enemy.   

[DumbAss Tanker]

Well, okay then, let's go with 'Sand-apes.'

[hillneck]

Well, okay then, let's go with 'Sand-apes.'

I know right.  They come up with a word I can use in public and suddenly it's inappropriate.  Guess I'll just have to use my old Army names I had for them.

[FiddyBeowulf]

5)None of the crimes that were committed in the name of this non-word had any connection to any of the teachings of Islam.

This is from someone who is ignorant about the teachings of Islam.



Just a few.
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

[Aristotelian]

OK, I'll use, "The followers of the criminal paedophile prophet, Mohammed, piss and dog shit be upon him". 

FIFY

[DefiantSix]

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 08:33 PM

 Ken Burch (31,762 posts)

We should STOP using the term "Islamist" on DU...

You're right. You DUmbshits should start referring to them "benevolent masters".  Except you DUmmy womyn: you'll need to learn how to shut the **** up, for once.

[obumazombie]

You're right. You DUmbshits should start referring to them "benevolent masters".  Except you DUmmy womyn: you'll need to learn how to shut the **** up, for once.

Why is it that muslim women always have black eyes ?