pie-and-jam primitive being paranoid again

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023494117

Oh geezuz.

I think Grandma Judy's guardians--her children and grandchildren--should do more than merely forbidding the addled grandma grasswire to use the computer, but should actually destroy with with a sledge-hammer, because she so blithely ignores their concerns that she looks bad.

Paranoia is one of the consequences of old-age arteriosclerosis, by the way.

grasswire (37,550 posts)    Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:39 PM

Who is coordinating this Internet message board defense of NSA?

When the Republicans do this kind of perception offense or defense, we know that it is Rush or Drudge or Beck or Hannity or FOX leading the charge, putting out the "official" narrative for the propaganda, the buzz words, the talking points, the false claims, yada yada.
 
In this instance, who is coordinating this effort?

I visited several message boards today and comments sections of web sites, and found exactly the same phrases used to defend NSA-executive branch and to attack Glenn Greenwald and his colleagues and his partner.
 
Some of the common phrases from today:

++Miranda was a mule.

++I wouldn't put my loved one in that position.

++Greenwald is a narcissist, exhibitionist, greedy, attention freak...

++Miranda is Greenwald's "lover"

++Miranda carried stolen documents, state secrets

++Miranda was used and abused

++Greenwald is mad at Obama for some immigration ruling re: gays.

++Miranda referred to as Greenwald's "little woman"

++Various homophobic slurs

Someone is issuing talking points or setting the narrative. Are tax dollars being used to support this propaganda?

It's a very large campfire, so only a few primitive comments:

Skraxx (468 posts)    Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:50 AM

120. I'm Doing It, You May Call Me "Dark Lord"

And nowhere is safe from my reach.

Warren Stupidity (33,533 posts)    Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:44 PM

6. I think we have dedicated enthusiasts, not paid shills.

Why they are so ****ing blind is a mystery to me, but so is the mindset of my rightwing BIL. Anyway, clearly they are all getting their talking points from the same place and then rushing off to post the same tedious bullshit. My guess is that from their perspective they are doing the right thing and fighting the good fight.

grasswire (37,550 posts)   Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:53 PM

10. yes, enthusiasts are coordinated, too

But someone is paying the organizer(s).*

*throughout the whole campfire, Grandma Judy never explains how she knows this singular fact.

creeksneakers2 (6,327 posts)    Tue Aug 20, 2013, 02:51 PM

168. The damage I see

is the labeling of anybody who is skeptical of the prevailing DU view as an enemy agent. I seriously doubt that anybody in power gives a shit what people on DU think. They also wouldn't be stupid enough to think that posting talking points is going to change the minds of the fervent. I think the whole idea of a coordinated response is another fantasy of the uniquely virtuous / persecution fantasy folks here who are ideologically rabid.
 
By the way, I'm on Obama's E-mail list and I didn't get any of the talking points you suspect are coming from the White House.

Blanks (1,535 posts)    Tue Aug 20, 2013, 03:50 PM

177. It seems that the hallelujah choir on this thread...

Are the ones with the same talking points. Same exact shit every day, always either the thread with the most recs or among the top 5.
 
Vague, unclear criticisms of the 'people who support the NSA'. In the end (or the middle) there's always a suggestion for not voting for democrats and starting a third party.
 
This is clearly just another thread disguised as an anti-NSA thread that really is pure and simple a manufactured opportunity to trash people who support Obama and democrats.
 
Kind of an odd thing to pop in and see literally every ****ing day at the democratic underground.

Robb (39,066 posts)    Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:00 PM

22. Reverse vampires, saucer people and the Rand Corporation.

We're through the looking glass, people.

Pretzel_Warrior (1,886 posts)    Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:00 PM
in response to Grandma Judy

24. it would make your world a little more tidy if what you believed was true

but the fact remains, if there are powers that be out there wanting to get the most bang for their buck, they aren't going to do so by paying disruptors to mess with TRUE Democrats on this site.
 
That is a bit of a naive approach.

There are just a whole lot of Democrats and progressive independents who disagree with your worldview.

grasswire (37,550 posts)    Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:14 PM

32. I'm not just talking DU

I visited various news comments sections and internet message boards. I couldn't tell you where the "little woman" comment was seen. I remember that it did elicit many heated protests in response.

Turborama (19,927 posts)    Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:17 PM

34. "several message boards"? Surely it'll just make your argument stronger if you tell us which ones?

Also, maybe some links to the same phrases being used on different sites?

Cali_Democrat (16,499 posts)    Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:23 PM

39. You're actually expecting proof?

Like links and stuff?

Turborama (19,927 posts)    Tue Aug 20, 2013, 12:12 AM

63. Yeah, that sort of thing. We're usually meticulous about backing up our claims here, aren't we?

geek tragedy (29,913 posts)    Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:28 PM

41. Skinner speaks for me:

1. This whole who-is-the-paid-shill witch hunt is disruptive nonsense.

It betrays an utter lack of creativity on the part of the people making the accusation. They are so convinced that they are right that they cannot imagine someone else might hold a different point of view in good faith.

Either that or they are incapable of advocating for their own point of view on the merits.
 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12592697#post1

<<<thinks the pie-and-jam primitive would do well to heed my fellow alum Skins.

[jukin]

The only people I know of that are supporting the Obama Regime's NSA illegal wire tapping and violations of the Fourth Amendment are democrats. I have had a few democrats say they are against it and the King Barky the Usurper is impeachable but most vehemently defend him. These are the same people that screamed about library books being recorded. They usually sulk away when I remind them of that.

Yes, the left is a cult of personality. It's what stupid people do.

[Tess Anderson]

I was just reading this thread. Oh, Judy, better stop this or you may disappear, too.

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #152)

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 02:22 PM

 temporary311 (169 posts)

158. True. People haven't started disappearing yet.

At least not for longer than 9 hours.

Response to temporary311 (Reply #158)

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 02:25 PM

 nadinbrzezinski (125,057 posts)

160. Actually people are, just that Muslim-Americans after 911

Or Aliens are easy to ignore. I will qualify this, well known people have not disappeared yet

[Carl]

Turborama (19,927 posts)    Tue Aug 20, 2013, 12:12 AM

63. Yeah, that sort of thing. We're usually meticulous about backing up our claims here, aren't we?

 

[franksolich]

I was just reading this thread. Oh, Judy, better stop this or you may disappear, too.
 

Yeah.

I'm sure that along with franksolich, the grasswire primitive's guardians--her children and grandchildren--wish Grandma Judy would disappear into a rocking-chair with her knitting and the Scriptures, instead of disseminating her old-age dementia, making poor addled grandma look bad.

[USA4ME]

The only people I know of that are supporting the Obama Regime's NSA illegal wire tapping and violations of the Fourth Amendment are democrats.

That's the funniest thing about this. The 100% Dear Leader cultists love the idea of spying on their fellow citizens, but they can't come out and say it, so they have to say that Dear Leader is within the law and can be trusted. The 99% Dear Leader cultists love the idea of spying, too, but they have to make it appear as though they don't in case things don't go as well as they hope it would. And their trust of Dear Leader is not quite as strong. But both sides want the same thing ultimately. Spying on their political enemies is how they hope to control them.

Look, given the opportunity there isn't a single primitive who wouldn't want conservatives rounded up and shoved into concentration camps. They're totalitarians. This is just a step along the way and some are more nervous than others.

.

[EagleKeeper]

Or Aliens are easy to ignore. I will qualify this, well known people have not disappeared yet

This crap is just that easy isn't it?

I do have to admit that as long as the Aliens don't burn down my neighborhood with a heat ray I'm cool.

[obumazombie]

Someone mentioned reverse vampire. That would be an entity that bites into your neck, and infuses life and vitality. Or am I getting the wrong lib image ?

[Bad Dog]

Someone mentioned reverse vampire. That would be an entity that bites into your neck, and infuses life and vitality. Or am I getting the wrong lib image ?

I thought it was some sort of sex position.  But then, I probably think about sex more than I should.

[GOBUCKS]

You cannot deny the 0bamaites are paid shills.

They all have cell phones, broadband internet, cars, computers, homes, weed, and enough food to be 100 lbs. overweight, and almost none of them work.

Where does the money for all that come from?

[Big Dog]

I thought it was some sort of sex position.  But then, I probably think about sex more than I should.

Vampire sex, DUmmy style:



Reverse vampire:

[obumazombie]

^Yuck, those look like owebuma lips.

[67 Rover]

^Yuck, those look like owebuma lips.

Why are they attached to your wallet?

[obumazombie]

Why are they attached to your wallet?

I might have to modify my description of owebuma a bit to account for that...

The Magic negro Inaction figure with the kung fu grip on your wallet left hand, and the sleight of hand right hand, and the reverse vampire bite on your taxes. By Mattel.
Comes complete with the Magical Misery WonderDunderBlunderbus tour bus. Also by Mattel.