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Offline dutch508

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IT'S THE F**KING JOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSS!!!!! (ref: NSA)
« on: August 18, 2013, 03:42:43 PM »
I really stopped reading after the headline.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023483363

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Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSAThe newest information regarding the NSA domestic spying scandal raises an important question: If America's tech giants didn't 'participate knowingly' in the dragnet of electronic communication, how does the NSA get all of their data?

One theory: the NSA hired two secretive Israeli companies to wiretap the U.S. telecommunications network.

In April 2012 Wired's James Bamford — author of the book "The Shadow Factory: The NSA from 9/11 to the Eavesdropping on America" — reported that two companies with extensive links to Israel's intelligence service provided hardware and software to wiretap the U.S. telecommunications network for the National Security Agency (NSA).

By doing so, this would imply, companies like Facebook and Google don't have to explicitly provide the NSA with access to their servers because major Internet Service Providers (ISPs) such as AT&T and Verizon already allows the U.S. signals intelligence agency to eavesdrop on all of their data anyway.

From Bamford (emphasis ours):

"According to a former Verizon employee briefed on the program, Verint, owned by Comverse Technology, taps the communication lines at Verizon...

At AT&T the wiretapping rooms are powered by software and hardware from Narus, now owned by Boeing, a discovery made by AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein in 2004."



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-bugged-the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6#ixzz2cLezPBSC


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1. This stuff just keeps piling up.

Which reminds me--You seem to have your hands on a lot of the relevant information. Would you possibly consider putting together something like a timeline of recent surveillance revelations (maybe going back lightly to 2003 or '04 for some of the more notable whistleblowers), with maybe a description of each revelation placed above the time line & the official responses below it? It could even be a sort of open-source workgroup project in the DU Activism group, and I bet the resultant graphic would go viral.

OFFS...

 
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3. I wish I had been adding it all to my journal but I didn't til a few days ago.

I've been kicking myself for that as I google to find old articles I remember the gist of.

Apparently I'm not as organized as Prosense. Gotta admire that dedication. I think she (they?) have been cataloging it all.

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2. Covered much this same ground about Verint and Narus going back to 2006.

There were/are actually three major Israeli electronic surveillance companies that have had a major impact within the US market.


...wait a tic... something big happened in 2006....

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4. Wow that is getting much deeper into the weeds of it all.

It's mind boggling how much you need to know to get a grasp and get a decent understanding of what is going on. 

too bad you are all DUmbasses...

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10. any evidence of this? nt


bad mole.

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11. I'll never understand how our government can claim to protect us, when they keep outsourcing

sensitive work.


yeah... there is that....


 

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Re: IT'S THE F**KING JOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSS!!!!! (ref: NSA)
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2013, 04:14:41 PM »
Isn't Snowden a Jewish name?  He sure looks Joooooooish.
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Re: IT'S THE F**KING JOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSS!!!!! (ref: NSA)
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2013, 05:00:23 PM »
Quote from: Bad Dog on August 18, 2013, 04:14:41 PM
Isn't Snowden a Jewish name?  He sure looks Joooooooish.
Probably has the Star of David, tattooed on his foreskin.  :whistling:
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Re: IT'S THE F**KING JOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSS!!!!! (ref: NSA)
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2013, 07:54:17 PM »
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If America's tech giants didn't 'participate knowingly' in the dragnet of electronic communication, how does the NSA get all of their data?

Applying Occam's Razor, the dreaded nemesis of CT'ers of every stripe, it seems a whole lot simpler to posit that the tech giants (Or enough of them, or enough subassemblies of them) are either lying or really did participate and simply refrained from asking too many questions at the time so they would be able to stick that "Knowingly" qualifier into their not-really-a-denial statement if they were ever caught out on it.
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Re: IT'S THE F**KING JOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSS!!!!! (ref: NSA)
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2013, 08:13:09 PM »
I think the billing software for some major telecoms were outsourced to Israeli firms (Amdocs for one).  :whistling:
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Re: IT'S THE F**KING JOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSS!!!!! (ref: NSA)
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2013, 07:58:34 AM »
Yes, the Joooooos "F" too.
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Re: IT'S THE F**KING JOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSS!!!!! (ref: NSA)
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2013, 01:40:09 PM »
Those CT'ers are really nutty! They are mentally sick. :mental:

Is it just me, but I rarely see DUmmies attack Ronbots/Paulistas. Many of them are CT'ers.
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