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Ebt card for kids??
« on: August 15, 2013, 09:33:17 AM »
#1, one does not give a child a debit card!! :banghead:
http://politichicks.tv/column/usda-tests-ebt-cards-for-kids/
and a parent, will not give their child one anyway.
I don't see how this will stop Food stamps/Snap abuse.
They need to take certain UPC's out of the system, and take away the cash option. I am tired of people living high off the hog, while the rest of us struggle..
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Re: Ebt card for kids??
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2013, 09:56:22 AM »
Yeh.  You should want to get off of public assistance.  It should be embarrassing to have to leech off of the taxpayers.  Yeh yeh, I know everyone puts in money (they say) but they don't put in THAT MUCH money. 






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Re: Ebt card for kids??
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2013, 10:07:05 AM »
Yeh.  You should want to get off of public assistance.  It should be embarrassing to have to leech off of the taxpayers.  Yeh yeh, I know everyone puts in money (they say) but they don't put in THAT MUCH money. 

That depends...a recently divorced mother using it as a bridge while she gets on her feet probably in her married life has put in enough and will not take as much out as she has put in. Someone unemployed for a while: the same. Consider all sources of tax going in. There are people in better times who may have paid the penalty on their retirement monies for example(THEIR MONEY) who probably have put more in then even your average working full time taxpayer due to that penalty situation. Taxes on investment income, etc. I think it depends on the situation prior to and after the bridge that someone needs help as to whether they have put in anything to take out. Now, the lifetime moochers and the ones who are on and off throughout their adult lives. yeah, can't see where they've ever put a thing in to take any sort of benefit out.

As for the cash benefit, as I understand it that is ONLY on those cards if someone is receiving WELFARE too. One who only gets food benefit can not take out any of that food benefit in cash, however those receiving both food stamps and welfare could. I guess how I understand this is basically snap now equals what was food stamps and cash benefit now equals what was once called welfare. Just in times of old you can't use food stamps for  cash--at least not legally--of course we can all tell the stories of under the table crap where people sell them but I'm talking about using the card, putting in the id #, and getting cash out on a card that only has snap. Can't happen...if it does, they have WELFARE ie cash benefit money on there too. I think it's rare that anyone who actually works gets welfare. Food stamps(snap) yes, welfare(cash benefit) no.

Sorry, I know way more about this then I wish I did. Dealing with a disabled child and preparing for adulthood for him knowing I will not be there someday to coordinate things for him gets one intimately acquainted with the help out there intended for people like him who can not care for themselves and how that will be accomplished.

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Re: Ebt card for kids??
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2013, 10:21:34 AM »
Welfare is supposed to be a hand up not a hand out. I just feel it's gotten so out of hand. When people are buying food for a party with their friends, instead of saving it to stretch out to feed their families, irates me to no end...
The example you gave Jt, is fine. If one has an accident, and has to be out of work, that would be ok..
I am sure some of you saw the surfer guy..He buys lobster, sushi, the truck he was driving??  He should permanently shut off!!
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Re: Ebt card for kids??
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2013, 10:59:34 AM »
That depends...a recently divorced mother using it as a bridge while she gets on her feet probably in her married life has put in enough and will not take as much out as she has put in. Someone unemployed for a while: the same. Consider all sources of tax going in. There are people in better times who may have paid the penalty on their retirement monies for example(THEIR MONEY) who probably have put more in then even your average working full time taxpayer due to that penalty situation. Taxes on investment income, etc. I think it depends on the situation prior to and after the bridge that someone needs help as to whether they have put in anything to take out. Now, the lifetime moochers and the ones who are on and off throughout their adult lives. yeah, can't see where they've ever put a thing in to take any sort of benefit out.

As for the cash benefit, as I understand it that is ONLY on those cards if someone is receiving WELFARE too. One who only gets food benefit can not take out any of that food benefit in cash, however those receiving both food stamps and welfare could. I guess how I understand this is basically snap now equals what was food stamps and cash benefit now equals what was once called welfare. Just in times of old you can't use food stamps for  cash--at least not legally--of course we can all tell the stories of under the table crap where people sell them but I'm talking about using the card, putting in the id #, and getting cash out on a card that only has snap. Can't happen...if it does, they have WELFARE ie cash benefit money on there too. I think it's rare that anyone who actually works gets welfare. Food stamps(snap) yes, welfare(cash benefit) no.

Sorry, I know way more about this then I wish I did. Dealing with a disabled child and preparing for adulthood for him knowing I will not be there someday to coordinate things for him gets one intimately acquainted with the help out there intended for people like him who can not care for themselves and how that will be accomplished.

You know that rants against SNAP ,TANF and the other programs are not against those that need them temporarily but at those who abuse them for multiple generations of family.

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Re: Ebt card for kids??
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2013, 11:19:02 AM »
Welfare is supposed to be a hand up not a hand out. I just feel it's gotten so out of hand. When people are buying food for a party with their friends, instead of saving it to stretch out to feed their families, irates me to no end...
The example you gave Jt, is fine. If one has an accident, and has to be out of work, that would be ok..
I am sure some of you saw the surfer guy..He buys lobster, sushi, the truck he was driving??  He should permanently shut off!!

Well in those situations I would imagine one of two things is occurring: cash is being made under the table and not reported to the qualification folks  tOR that person is not the holder of the card but probably purchased it for pennies on the dollar. I would bet in most of those cases the person buying is NOT the valid  holder of the card. You could eliminate those by requiring ID but I'm sure the powers that be will find some way to call that kind of verification discriminatory.

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Re: Ebt card for kids??
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2013, 11:26:41 AM »
You know that rants against SNAP ,TANF and the other programs are not against those that need them temporarily but at those who abuse them for multiple generations of family.

Of course but normally these kinds of discussions do not disseminate so I make it a point to do so. I'm tired of conservatives being painted as something they are not and incomplete rants give the in discriminating eye the wrong idea. I think it's important also to clarify precisely what it is one is railing against. It's not snap, it's not Medicaid and the people and situations that it is validly supposed to be serving. Really what most people are railing at us the abuse and fraud in the system. I actually don't think you can restrict all items though. There are many mentally challenged people who are fed they snap and providers may help them with purchases but the extent of their cooking abilities is a microwave. Perhaps though one can be put on separate snap plans where elderly and disabled folks have more options for convenience foods then say a 35 year old who is perpetually unemployed. I think there are solutions but the government is far from creative and the race and low info voter hustlers really are against first of all pissing off their contingency and secondly against empowering their contingency to do anything for themselves including using basic ingredients to make a meal. It serves them to keep them dumb and subservient.