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eissa (2,543 posts)    Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:10 PM

Looking for the perfect pizza dough

I make pizzas occasionally, and sometimes the dough comes out just perfect, and other times no so much. It's the simplest of things to make, but I have yet to master it, and it drives me nuts! If anyone has the perfect, no-fail pizza dough recipe, please share. Thanks!

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Stinky The Clown (51,957 posts)    Tue Aug 13, 2013, 05:28 PM

1. Frozen dough from the grocery store

It is a 95% product, meaning you can do better, but the effort is likely not worth it for all but the most singularly special occasion.

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bif (15,512 posts)    Tue Aug 13, 2013, 05:37 PM

2. I just bought a bag of Trader Joe's

I used to make my own, but I found it's not really worth it. Trader Joe's is 99 cents I believe. I'm making a salmon pizza, and the dough works out well every time. Plus their pizza sauce is good as well. I've gotten lazy in my old age!

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Re: the wife-abandoning sparkling old dude recommends store-bought dough
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2013, 06:13:06 PM »
SALMON PIZZA?

Salmon, I get.  Pizza, I get.  Together?  WTF is wrong with you people?

Oh, and when girl-child wants pizza that I've made?  Market Basket dough.  Easy-peasy.  Dough, toppings, sauce, cheese, maybe $6-7 per pizza.  And the cheese is the biggest expense.  I fed seven people two pizzas, cost $12-13 for everything, and still had some ingredients left over.

Dear DUmmies...cheese, pepperoni, sausage.  Quit trying to **** up pizza by putting FISH on it.
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Re: the wife-abandoning sparkling old dude recommends store-bought dough
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2013, 06:15:39 PM »
SALMON PIZZA?

Salmon, I get.  Pizza, I get.  Together?  WTF is wrong with you people?

Oh, and when girl-child wants pizza that I've made?  Market Basket dough.  Easy-peasy.  Dough, toppings, sauce, cheese, maybe $6-7 per pizza.  And the cheese is the biggest expense.  I fed seven people two pizzas, cost $12-13 for everything, and still had some ingredients left over.

Dear DUmmies...cheese, pepperoni, sausage.  Quit trying to **** up pizza by putting FISH on it.

That was my thought too, but I was afraid to express it, given the number of fishophiles all around.
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Re: the wife-abandoning sparkling old dude recommends store-bought dough
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 06:17:06 PM »
SALMON PIZZA?

Salmon, I get.  Pizza, I get.  Together?  WTF is wrong with you people?

Oh, and when girl-child wants pizza that I've made?  Market Basket dough.  Easy-peasy.  Dough, toppings, sauce, cheese, maybe $6-7 per pizza.  And the cheese is the biggest expense.  I fed seven people two pizzas, cost $12-13 for everything, and still had some ingredients left over.

Dear DUmmies...cheese, pepperoni, sausage.  Quit trying to **** up pizza by putting FISH on it.

Some ham and pineapple on occasion as well goes good on pizza, but you can't go wrong with the "big 3"!   :drool:
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Re: the wife-abandoning sparkling old dude recommends store-bought dough
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2013, 06:18:59 PM »
That was my thought too, but I was afraid to express it, given the number of fishophiles all around.

I like fish. Salmon is one of my favorites.

But I wouldn't eat fish pizza, and I definitely wouldn't make one.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2013, 06:19:41 PM »
Pizza in Norway......."who threw up on the Lefse"?

Making dough, is easy. You have to work at it.  :-) :whatever:
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 09:15:01 PM »
I've had many pizzas made by people who seriously try to make good homemade pizza .

Not one has ever been as good as Pizza Hut, or even a frozen DiGiorno pizza.

I've also had some good ones from pizzerias in Chicago.

Why anyone goes to all the time and trouble to make it themselves baffles me, because it's invariably second-rate.

Sort of like homemade beer.

It's so much better, quicker, cheaper, and easier to buy from someone who does it professionally.

I guess if you live in the wilds of Connecticut it might be necessary to make your own pizza.

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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 09:25:34 PM »
Pizza Hut sux. Way to much salt. Same with all other pizza chains.
Paper thin layer of sauce, overly salted meat, cheap cheese. (and little of it)
Stupid frozen ones are better. Not by much.
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Re: the wife-abandoning sparkling old dude recommends store-bought dough
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 09:44:20 PM »
Pizza Hut sux. Way to much salt. Same with all other pizza chains.
Paper thin layer of sauce, overly salted meat, cheap cheese. (and little of it)
Stupid frozen ones are better. Not by much.

We buy either a crust mix or ready made crust and load our own toppings on it. Lots of sauce, tons of cheese, sausage, pepperoni, Canadian Bacon and sometimes onions and mushrooms.

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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2013, 01:05:59 AM »
Best pizza I ever had was made by this little restaurant a half mile down the road from were I was stationed at in Italy. Every ingredient was fresh and warmed in a brick oven. Best part was it cost about $4.00 for a medium sized pizza with the exchange rate.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2013, 08:26:36 AM »
I sense the winds of a pizza war brewing. 

I have NEVER understood the pineapple and ham on a pizza deal.  Some people just adore it, I dislike fruit in (hot) food.  I agree with GOBUCKS on the homemade pizza.  It's just not as good.  The crust is usually very disappointing, no matter what advice you get cooking shows, etc.  He's also right about CT pizza.  It's horrendous, which makes no sense, because you just cross the border into NY, and the pizza's great.  This holds true for bagels as well. 

I use to love the Pizza Hut super supreme, but the current husband doesn't like all that stuff on it. 

Salmon pizza?  Now that's ****ed up. 

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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2013, 08:40:07 AM »
Ci-Ci's is only $5.95.

There used to be a New York-style pizza place here but they closed up shop decades ago.  I remember going there as a kid... it was the real deal, not any of that pretend stuff that Dominos tries to pass off as "Brooklyn".  They were in the food court at the mall, but it was still some of the best pizza I've ever had.
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Re: the wife-abandoning sparkling old dude recommends store-bought dough
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2013, 08:42:02 AM »
Some ham and pineapple on occasion as well goes good on pizza, but you can't go wrong with the "big 3"!   :drool:

I make pizza all the time. Only two types, either straight up loaded pepperoni or ham and pineapple.  :cheersmate:

Frank, you ought to try making your own one day. It's simple. Publix here makes pizza dough and sells it for about 3 bucks. After I did it the first time, I was hooked. It's simple.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2013, 11:25:07 AM »
After I did it the first time, I was hooked. It's simple.

Same here.  My family loves my pizza.

I like a really thin crispy crust, and no sugar in the sauce. 

I did have a bbq shrimp and pineapple pizza at Houstons once. (Not my choice).  Surprisingly, it was very good.




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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2013, 02:41:18 PM »
I always tell people I liked their homemade pizza, after gagging down a piece of it, because they went to so much time and trouble to prepare it.

But what do I know? I like Olive Garden, American beer, Red Lobster, and Crocs.

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2013, 05:10:31 PM »
That was my thought too, but I was afraid to express it, given the number of fishophiles all around.

Yeah, I'm one of them, but salmon pizza?  NFW. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2013, 07:05:08 PM »
Same here.  My family loves my pizza.

I like a really thin crispy crust, and no sugar in the sauce. 

I did have a bbq shrimp and pineapple pizza at Houstons once. (Not my choice).  Surprisingly, it was very good.


Shakey's Pizza used to serve an everything pizza that included shrimp which I loved.

The latest weird-sounding combo on a pizza I had was at http://www.broadwaypizza.com/about.html

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crisp bacon, sauerkraut and
onion topped with mozzarella
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2013, 08:00:08 PM »
Well, for me, weird stuff on pizza, like fish, shrimp, kraut, pineapple, etc., falls into the same category with putting peas in chili. I had a pizza in Rome one time that had egg on it.

I like all that stuff, but on pizza? Yuck.

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2013, 08:51:06 PM »
Why anyone goes to all the time and trouble to make it themselves baffles me, because it's invariably second-rate.

Sort of like homemade beer.

It's so much better, quicker, cheaper, and easier to buy from someone who does it professionally.

I guess if you live in the wilds of Connecticut it might be necessary to make your own pizza.

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2013, 08:52:50 PM »
I make pizza all the time. Only two types, either straight up loaded pepperoni or ham and pineapple.  :cheersmate:

Frank, you ought to try making your own one day. It's simple. Publix here makes pizza dough and sells it for about 3 bucks. After I did it the first time, I was hooked. It's simple.

3 bucks?  You're getting ripped off.  Market Basket sells dough in just the perfect size for a 14-16" pizza for $1.29, and sometimes has it on sale for 99 cents.
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2013, 09:08:17 PM »
HUSH YO 'MOUF!!!  I'll have you know when I make beer it's 100X better than any of the crap I could buy in a store, and a helluva lot cheaper to boot.
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2013, 09:13:32 PM »
I've had many pizzas made by people who seriously try to make good homemade pizza .

Not one has ever been as good as Pizza Hut, or even a frozen DiGiorno pizza.

I've also had some good ones from pizzerias in Chicago.

Why anyone goes to all the time and trouble to make it themselves baffles me, because it's invariably second-rate.

Sort of like homemade beer.

It's so much better, quicker, cheaper, and easier to buy from someone who does it professionally.

I guess if you live in the wilds of Connecticut it might be necessary to make your own pizza.

A few months back, Pizza Hut--I think--was running TV ads for a pizza with little cheese pockets running all along the edge of the crust.  Every time this ad came on, my mouth started watering.
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2013, 11:35:23 PM »
I have a couple of family members who fancy themselves brewmasters, so I've had to endure many bottles of their best efforts over the past few years. It's always dark, foul stuff, with a brownish, thick foam like a layer of CoolWhip gone bad. I've never been able to last more than a few polite sips. Appropriately, one of them also prides himself on homemade pizza.

I'll take Pizza Hut and an ice cold Rolling Rock any day of the week.

I've had people pay for my beer and ask when I'm making more.  That tell you anything?
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2013, 06:06:04 AM »
I have a couple of family members who fancy themselves brewmasters, so I've had to endure many bottles of their best efforts over the past few years. It's always dark, foul stuff, with a brownish, thick foam like a layer of CoolWhip gone bad. I've never been able to last more than a few polite sips. Appropriately, one of them also prides himself on homemade pizza.

I'll take Pizza Hut and an ice cold Rolling Rock any day of the week.

You're describing the difference between ale and lager. Difference brewing processes (warm v. cold fermentation), different ingredients (ales are made from barley, lagers are made with corn or rice as well).
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2013, 07:25:45 AM »
We tried the Trader Joe's dough last night. It was very good.

I think depending on how you press it down you can get it how you like it. Now, obviously a pan pizza is, imo, something you can't buy in a store, but calorie wise I stay away from those anyway...too many calories from simple carbs and too much fat from the oil involved ie not worth it. I'd rather have a New York variety or a pizza with a thinner crust and have a good solid 2 pieces then nibble on the edges of a pan pizza.

As for the home brew discussion, I have a good friend and former coworker who runs a very successful specialty bar in Arizona who started as a home brewer...even back then at his gatherings his beer was top notch. Perhaps we are talking the difference between those with a genuine interest in brewing who take time to perfect it and those for whom it is a passing hobby with a 'Mr. Beer' kit. The latter shouldn't be pushing their brews on their friends.  :wink: