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Most people don't understand why Clinton is being talked about as if she is the defacto Democrat nominee.

The answer is quite simple: The media does NOT want to create a situation where democrats are actually competing against each other and have to discuss actual policies. They want to reserve this for the GOP primary.

In short, they want to create a universal acceptance of Hillary as the nominee. As such, they will most probably go HARD on any Democrat that tries to "go rogue" and run for president him or herself. They do NOT WANT to see a primary where actual ideas and policies have to be discussed, because they KNOW they can't come up with a coherent economic policy that doesn't involve its total subjugation by the edicts of Washington, as well as diplomatic policy that doesn't involve the plausible strong defense measures that is mandated by backing a functioning military, let alone a strong one.

What the media WANTS to do is to have the GOP play circular firing squad again, always making sure the conservatives are in the center of the circle, and by promoting the most mushy RINO as the "one who can help the Republican Party win the presidency!!" again. Of course, once the general election cycle restarts, the gloves come off.

But for this to be successful, the media must do what they can to preclude a Democrat primary debate. This is actually more important, especially as Obamacare falls flat on its face, and if the "Illegal Aliean legalizaton bill" happens, then this will allow them to run out the clock while they figure how to accompany all the illegal votes that will be harder to track because of said legalization.

Bottom line: the media will go all-out to help the Democrat Party avoid a primary to avoid answering tough questions as Obama is successfully doing now. Count on it.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 02:52:54 PM »
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Bottom line: the media will go all-out to help the Democrat Party avoid a primary to avoid answering tough questions as Obama is successfully doing now. Count on it.

Yeah, come 2016 we will have known this for roughly 9 years. Has anything changed that would make it any less effective?
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2013, 02:57:01 PM »
Yeah, come 2016 we will have known this for roughly 9 years. Has anything changed that would make it any less effective?

That is also why the presidential debates always have liberal moderators.  Softball questions for the libs and screwballs for the RINO.

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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2013, 02:59:36 PM »
According to Rush (blessed be his name), the dems have worn the race card so thin they have to switch to the sexist card.

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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013, 03:08:53 PM »
According to Rush (blessed be his name), the dems have worn the race card so thin they have to switch to the sexist card.

In my view it doesn't matter what card they choose to run on. How do you get through "mainstream media" in order to get your message out.

It simply doesn't happen, if the mainstream media is not on your side your doomed. I had this same conversation prior to the last election, the idea being to "change the conversation" using conservative...I don't know, blogs or whatever.

I have yet to find a way to get my family to forgo cbs, nbc, abc for HotAir or AceofSpades.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 03:09:30 PM »
That is also why the presidential debates always have liberal moderators.  Softball questions for the libs and screwballs for the RINO.

Same for the GOP primary, 'cept of course the CONSERVATIVES get the screwballs while the RINO gets the "only person who can actually win as a republican!" softball treatment.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 03:37:45 PM »
Same for the GOP primary, 'cept of course the CONSERVATIVES get the screwballs while the RINO gets the "only person who can actually win as a republican!" softball treatment.

Until the primary is over, and the moonbat media's selection of the next sacrificial victim for the Dhimmi'Rat ticket is a fait acompli.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 03:51:42 PM »
I think the Republicans should refuse to participate in any debates that have a card-carrying lib as the moderator.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 03:53:13 PM »
I think the Republicans should refuse to participate in any debates that have a card-carrying lib as the moderator.

Just out of curiosity, where do you think they should be held?
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2013, 03:54:34 PM »
Just out of curiosity, where do you think they should be held?

Mix up the states. Certainly not in NYC or DC.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2013, 03:58:22 PM »
Mix up the states. Certainly not in NYC or DC.

That was not the question, what platform would carry the debate?

cnn, abc, cbs, nbc....something else?
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2013, 04:05:16 PM »
That was not the question, what platform would carry the debate?

cnn, abc, cbs, nbc....something else?

Perhaps PBS or (gasp!) FOXNEWS.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2013, 04:08:02 PM »
Perhaps PBS or (gasp!) FOXNEWS.

If Republicans boycott the MSM Dems will boycott FOX.

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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2013, 04:16:05 PM »
Perhaps PBS or (gasp!) FOXNEWS.

I think you might have hit on something. I think Brett Baier would make an excellent moderator.

And Fox news sunday should either handle it or rebroadcast it on the following sunday.

I also think that the Dems should be forced to appear at least once on Fox. Maybe negotiate a trade off, the reps show up on nbc once and the dems show up on fox once.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2013, 04:18:53 PM »
I enjoyed Baier's show when I was able to watch it (I think it comes on at 5:30 here). 

He's no Candy Crowley, that's for sure.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2013, 05:50:04 PM »

Perhaps PBS or (gasp!) FOXNEWS.
I think you might have hit on something. I think Brett Baier would make an excellent moderator.

And Fox news sunday should either handle it or rebroadcast it on the following sunday.

I also think that the Dems should be forced to appear at least once on Fox. Maybe negotiate a trade off, the reps show up on nbc once and the dems show up on fox once.

Another option that occurs to me is the Internet.  Like him or hate him, Beck's TheBlaze internet network is proving to be a profitable alternative to the moonbat echo chamber on the broadcast and cable channels. Perhaps simply streaming primary debates directly on the internet is the better way to go than lending credibility and an undeserved assumption of neutrality to the moonbat propaganda networks. Lock that down and and all you have left to do is name some personalities who can be unbiased moderators without frothing at the mouth.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2013, 08:51:43 PM »
That was not the question, what platform would carry the debate?

cnn, abc, cbs, nbc....something else?

They'd still run the debate, in the end the identity of the moderator doesn't drive that.

But back to the OP, it's kind of obvious she is the only one who still has a national organization that can be revved up quickly.  About all that can stop her from sweeping aside the other Dems in the Primaries is either a house falling on her, a teenage girl throwing a bucket of mop water on her, or the MSM suddenly developing a sense of responsibility and they start hammering her about either Benghazi or the hundreds of dead Mexicans that her little gun control scam with Holder left in the wake of Fast & Furious.  All three of those scenarios are wildly improbable, of course.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2013, 09:55:57 AM »
If Republicans boycott the MSM Dems will boycott FOX.

Would that be a bad thing? Just imagine what Fox would say (loudly) if that happened. It would show the world the dumbo's true hypocrisy about anything and everything.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2013, 10:53:14 AM »
Howard Dean has been toying with running in 2016.  I say bring it on for entertainment value!

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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2013, 11:13:00 AM »
If Hitlery is the dim candidate, states better hurry up with photo voter ID laws then.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2013, 01:47:53 PM »
That was not the question, what platform would carry the debate?

cnn, abc, cbs, nbc....something else?

These guys are probably ill-equipped to handle something like a debate, but C-Span would make a great medium.

It's kind of hard to **** up the actual presentation of what's happening in that cesspool known as DC, so C-Span doesn't even bother to offer commentary. Just show what the hell happened.
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Re: Why is Clinton being talked about as the presumptive Democrat nominee?
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2013, 01:48:16 PM »
Howard Dean has been toying with running in 2016.  I say bring it on for entertainment value!



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