:jugs: still on her anti-gun jihad

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023399530

Oh my.

  (14,360 posts)   Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:14 PM

You think Chicago has the worst homicide rate?

Wrong.

after which a chart showing Baltimore, Detroit, Kansas City, New Orleans, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Birmingham, Jacksonville, and Memphis have higher homicide rates than Chicago

Skittles (88,575 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:20 PM

2. gun humpers LOVE using Chicago

their ignorance is staggering

friendly_iconoclast (9,222 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 06:28 PM

12. Just as you lot studiously avoid discussing Houston

I can see why- it kind of derails the meme that 'gun availability drives crime' when a gun-friendly megacity in a gun-friendly state that's surrounded by gun-friendly states has a murder rate that's less than half of Chicago's

From the link in the poster:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-6
 
Crime in The United States 2011

City of Chicago

Population: 2,703,713 431 murders

City of Houston

Population: 2,143,628 198 murders

mucifer (8,594 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:29 PM

6. I think the issue with Chicago is that there is such segregation.

I'd like to know if in these other cities the violent crime is as concentrated in a few neighborhoods the way it is in Chicago. I live in Chicago and know in certain areas it is unbearable and has been for decades.

frazzled (9,554 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 06:51 PM

16. It's pretty segregated in housing, but ...

it's one of the least segregated Northern cities, imo, in terms of mixes of people in the life of the city itself. Ride the El, take a bus, go to Millennium Park for a concert, have lunch in the Loop with workers, go to a club (well, certain clubs) ... this is a very black/white city in that sense.
 
I moved here from Boston (before that, Minneapolis and NYC). I mean, you rarely see a black person in Boston, unless they're on the faculty at one of the universities or at a law firm. Yet I know Roxbury is still very black. My husband just got back from New York and had gone up to Harlem one evening to eat dinner. He said, you know, Chicago really is a much more black city than New York, until you get into certain areas. Midtown Manhattan and downtown Chicago are like night and day, pretty much, in that respect. In the working parts of the city, it's a much more mixed environment.
 
I ride the Green line a lot, so maybe I see more black faces every day than people who live up on the North Side and take the Brown line. The Green line goes from the concentration of black neighborhoods on the West Side to the concentration of black neighborhoods on the South Side. But neighborhoods in between also have a rising middle-class black population.
 
I don't ignore the deep pockets of black poverty in certain neighborhoods that has existed since the Great Migration. But I also love to say, eat Sunday breakfast at Valois, down in Hyde Park, where the Church families and the U of C professors, the old black guys in their suspenders talking politics, and young white families are all eating together. Or go to the jazz festival around Labor Day, where everyone sits under the stars together. I think it feels like the real America. Not one I see very much anywhere else.
 
Grant Park in November 2004 ... now that was Chicago. At least for a moment.

otohara (21,822 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:34 PM

7. Pro Gun Talkiing Points

always try to minimize the damage of guns and point straight to Chicago with glee.
 
It's downright creepy.

Thanks for posting this...every little bit of truth helps.

friendly_iconoclast (9,222 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 06:33 PM

14. Why do guns cause less damage in decidedly pro-gun Houston?

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-6
 
City of Houston

2,143,628 198 murders

City of Chicago

2,703,713 431 murders

Why does Chicago have more of a problem? One word: Poverty

[Skul]

Perhaps :Jugs should differentiate between murder, and justifiable homicide.
We can defend ourselves down here from predators.  Not so much in Shitcago.

[diesel driver]

Jugs  needs to know the difference between "murder" and "killing".

When some animal (human or otherwise) threatens to do harm to me, my family, or my property, I will KILL it.

You don't "murder" animals, you "kill" them.

[Skul]

Jugs  needs to know the difference between "murder" and "killing".

When some animal (human or otherwise) threatens to do harm to me, my family, or my property, I will KILL it.

You don't "murder" animals, you "kill" them.

That's it in a nut shell.

[I_B_Perky]

mucifer (8,594 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:29 PM

6. I think the issue with Chicago is that there is such segregation.

I'd like to know if in these other cities the violent crime is as concentrated in a few neighborhoods the way it is in Chicago. I live in Chicago and know in certain areas it is unbearable and has been for decades.

Yes it is dummie. They all have one thing and one thing only in common. Can you guess what it is? No? I'll tell you. Public housing...a more apt description would be welfare housing. The show Gangland even commented on it in their Chicago gang segment.

That is a fact. You can make excuses all you want dummie, the fact remains though that those who do not pay for their housing have no incentive to keep it nice.

As for segragation... well you could take all these welfare pukes in public housing and relocate them to nice neighborhoods and then you would see an uptick in crime in those neighborhoods. Why? One simple reason... you do not respect other people's property when you don't work your ass off for your own.

And don't hand me the poor argument. There are poor folks in rural communities that don't trash where they live.

[98ZJUSMC]

mucifer (8,594 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:29 PM

6. I think the issue with Chicago is that there is such segregation.

I'd like to know if in these other cities the violent crime is as concentrated in a few neighborhoods the way it is in Chicago. I live in Chicago and know in certain areas it is unbearable and has been for decades.

And just what difference does that make, idiot?  Honestly, explain that.  Is your supposition that more interaction with white people would make them    murder less?  How stupid and racist do you bereft of brain cells, clown-disasters get?

I know Shitcago very well.  Born and raised. 

That's why I am no longer there.

[DumbAss Tanker]

otohara (21,822 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:34 PM

7. Pro Gun Talkiing Points

Don't have any mirrors in your filthy hovel, do you, bitch?

[Carl]

I think it was in the old Blondie cartoons where Dagwood would build a birdhouse and the finished product looked like a geometric figure yet to be named.

As always DUmbasses are looking at the birdhouse they built with not one wall the same length as the other,a door that only half opens and a roof that doesn't touch on one side and proceed to blame the store that sold them the wood and nails.

[franksolich]

I think it was in the old Blondie cartoons where Dagwood would build a birdhouse and the finished product looked like a geometric figure yet to be named.

As always DUmbasses are looking at the birdhouse they built with not one wall the same length as the other,a door that only half opens and a roof that doesn't touch on one side and proceed to blame the store that sold them the wood and nails.

Great analogy. 

[Big Dog]

Hey, PhDD:

  (14,360 posts)   Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:14 PM

You think Chicago has the worst homicide rate?

Wrong.

after which a chart showing Baltimore, Detroit, Kansas City, New Orleans, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Birmingham, Jacksonville, and Memphis have higher homicide rates than Chicago

What do those cities have in common?

Democrat city government.

Own it.

[JohnnyReb]

Hey, PhDD:

What do those cities have in common?

Democrat city government.

Own it.

....and a lot of Obamasons.

[dane]

Jugs  needs to know the difference between "murder" and "killing".

When some animal (human or otherwise) threatens to do harm to me, my family, or my property, I will KILL it.

You don't "murder" animals, you "kill" them.

  I don't think I've ever seen this difference ('murder' vs 'kill') put so plainly and simply.  It gets a H5.

[jukin]

mucifer (8,594 posts)    Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:29 PM

6. I think the issue with Chicago is that there is such segregation.

I'd like to know if in these other cities the violent crime is as concentrated in a few neighborhoods the way it is in Chicago. I live in Chicago and know in certain areas it is unbearable and has been for decades.

Take a wild guess DUchebag what community of Chicago is the worst and what community of Chicago 0bama organized. 0bama is going to do for the entire USA what he did for the southside of Chicago. The man only knows lying, thieving, and destruction. He has never built or created anything other than hate.

[Aristotelian]

Hey, PhDD:

What do those cities have in common?

Democrat city government.

Own it.

Whodathunkit?

[obumazombie]

The lib public housing construction contract process...

[dandi]

Reciting facts and statistics concerning firearms is "parroting NRA talking points" at the DUmp.

Shrieking about "cowardly gun humpers and their death-spewing 600 rounds per minute child-killing penis extenders" is a "common sense argument".

 

[Splashdown]

I can't believe the murder rate in all those Republican-run cities!


Oh wait...

[marv]

When I was transferred to Chitcago in '64, I was was told to stay away from the Southside, and buy in the northwest suburbs. I bought in Elk Grove Village.

I'd been back to Chitcago many times until the mid eighties, and could walk at night around the Loop or up and down Michigan Avenue at Christmas time. Things have changed since then.

[GOBUCKS]

I wonder if there's a statistic anywhere showing how many murders are committed by legally-owned firearms.

The number probably isn't zero, but I'll bet it's damn close to zero.

Legally-owned firearms are as safe as legally-owned hair dryers.

[Ptarmigan]

I see PhDD is still at this gun control thing. I wonder what other causes she will take up next. 

[DefiantSix]

I see PhDD is still at this gun control thing. I wonder what other causes she will take up next. 

I think she's a Gyrfalcon sympathizer in the Great Patriotic Ptarmigan War.

[BlueStateSaint]

I think she's a Gyrfalcon sympathizer in the Great Patriotic Ptarmigan War.

Naah--she's definitely on the side of the birds.  Chickens and all.

[txradioguy]

Why does Chicago have more of a problem? One word: Poverty

Nope. 6 words.  Strictest gun laws in the nation.

Houston is in a state that respects the 2nd Amendment.

[Ptarmigan]

I think she's a Gyrfalcon sympathizer in the Great Patriotic Ptarmigan War.

Naah--she's definitely on the side of the birds.  Chickens and all.

She would side with the bunnies and gyrfalcons.

[DumbAss Tanker]

That's the problem with big tits, they drain too much blood from the brain.