"National healthcare will lift the poor out of poverty

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

"Relieve them of the burden of expensive medical care and they can rededicate their earnings to education, a better home, savings, etc. That will then flow into the economy and benefit everyone!"

How many times have we heard that bilge?

It's always been accept as gospel truth without any allowance for explanations that higher taxes to pay for it destroy economic activity or that more money in the system (not that there ever is) leads to currency inflation.

All you need to know is that national healthcare will eliminate poverty.


Then someone explain THIS:

HipChick (10,411 posts)

2000 babies were born in the UK yesterday,1 in 3 will live in Poverty...Prince whatever-his-name
 
won't ever have to worry about that..He will never know what it is to pay a utility bill,keep a roof over his head, or wonder where his next meal is coming from..


The royal baby is one of around 2,000 children born every day in the UK. Yet whilst the third in line to the throne can expect a life unimaginable to its cohort of subjects with whom it will share a birthday, all babies can anticipate a longer span than their parents before them Yet worryingly campaigners estimate that one in three children in Britain – four million young people - are living in relative poverty which is one of the highest figures in the industrial world..

This pasty rice face woman came to my school once..I remember arriving in this black car that looked like they used when people died,surrounded by a flurry of people around...we were all supposed to curtsey ....I forget, she looked like an ordinary old woman to me..I didn't smile, she didn't look like any of the Queens that were in my fairytale books..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/royal-baby-hes-just-one-in-2000-born-in-the-uk-yesterday--but-will-know-nothing-of-the-poverty-that-will-hit-one-in-three-of-them-8727675.html

Boudica the Lyoness (1,837 posts)

5. Poverty in the UK is not like poverty in the US
 
In the UK everyone has free health care. Single mothers are entitled to a rent free home and all kinds of other benefits.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/benefits_e.htm

http://www.specsavers.co.uk/ask-the-optician/free-eye-test-and-glasses-on-jobseekers-allowance/

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14423.aspx

....and more.

There are many people in the UK that have never worked a day in their lives, and never worry about paying a utility bill or keeping a roof over their heads. Believe me, they are not royalty.

All those benefits and yet 1/3 live in poverty.

Weird.

It's almost as if welfare destroys the incentive to lift one's self out of poverty.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023327106

[Aristotelian]

All those benefits and yet 1/3 live in poverty.

Weird.

It's almost as if welfare destroys the incentive to lift one's self out of poverty.

I'm very critical of the leftists in our current 'conservative' government, but thank goodness that they're trying to wear away at the pernicious effects of welfare. Of course, our own DUmmies scream every time a tiny moderate proposal is put forward...but then you could have predicted that.

[NHSparky]

Dear DUmmies,

I've been to the UK a couple of times.  I asked my PCP the first time I went there if he had any recomendations should I become ill there.  His advice?  Wait till you come back for treatment.

And as far as this country goes, not having health insurance is, in far too many cases, a CHOICE someone made between having that, or having sattelite cable, X-Boxes, bigger cars, dinners out, etc.

[jukin]

What national health care, AKA 0bama HellCare will do is shaft what 0bammy's economic illiterate policies have not, the rest of the middle class into poverty.

Communists/socialists/fascists/progressives hate, HATE the middle class (the bourgeois). While there is still a middle class the grand revolution to totalitarian big government cannot happen.

[USA4ME]

And as far as this country goes, not having health insurance is, in far too many cases, a CHOICE someone made between having that, or having sattelite cable, X-Boxes, bigger cars, dinners out, etc.

Exactly.

And to amend SB's quote to include what you said above:

"Relieve them of the burden of expensive medical care and they can rededicate their earnings to beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets, etc."

That it would flow into the economy and benefit everyone is bilge, and that's putting it nicely.

.

[Aristotelian]

And to amend SB's quote to include what you said above:

"Relieve them of the burden of expensive medical care and they can rededicate their earnings to beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets, pot, heroin, ecstasy, crack  etc."

Further amended.

[diesel driver]

National hellcare will lift the poor out of poverty, by making EVERYONE poor, and bringing the rich and middle class DOWN to the poor's level.

IOW, no lifting required.

[jukin]

National hellcare will lift the poor out of poverty, by making EVERYONE poor, and bringing the rich and middle class DOWN to the poor's level.

IOW, no lifting required.

It is much easier to destroy than create.

[compaqxp]

You guys know I like our healthcare system, but the idea it could help make poor people not poor is such a load of BS. How many times have you heard of healthcare being the sole reason someone is poor? Not many.

Some people try to work their way out of a bad situation and then there are those who you could give everything to and it'd make no difference.

There are many people in the UK that have never worked a day in their lives

Heck, there's a ton of people like that here too. Like I said you give them everything and yet they'll always be poor. What incentive is there to work when you know you'll always be taken care of?

[diesel driver]

Heck, there's a ton of people like that here too. Like I said you give them everything and yet they'll always be poor. What incentive is there to work when you know you'll always be taken care of?

The lazy, like fools and the poor, will be with us always.

And there will be more and more of them, because that's what we get whenever the government subsidizes something.

[obumazombie]

Phil Mickleson "Leftie" agreed to help Britain out with their 1/3 poverty figure...

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/07/phil-mickelson-open-championship-taxes/