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I like robots as much as anyone
« on: July 17, 2013, 08:21:21 PM »
So I just got done watching an episode of "through the wormhole".

It was focused on robot development and it was all good except for one thing that sort of gave me the chills.

There is at least one scientist that is teaching robots to develop their own language.

In the early experiments they just gave two robots some simple rules and then they vocalized at each other,mostly requesting simple movements, making corrections and soon enough they were making up words that the lead scientist didn't understand until the robots taught him what they meant.

I guess I can get behind this, I mean why wouldn't we want robots to be able to talk to each other without us being able to understand them.

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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2013, 08:31:33 PM »
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2013, 08:33:59 PM »
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2013, 08:35:10 PM »
So I just got done watching an episode of "through the wormhole".

It was focused on robot development and it was all good except for one thing that sort of gave me the chills.

There is at least one scientist that is teaching robots to develop their own language.

In the early experiments they just gave two robots some simple rules and then they vocalized at each other,mostly requesting simple movements, making corrections and soon enough they were making up words that the lead scientist didn't understand until the robots taught him what they meant.

I guess I can get behind this, I mean why wouldn't we want robots to be able to talk to each other without us being able to understand them.

</nervous laughter>

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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2013, 08:38:28 PM »
Don't forget the three rules!

1 A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2 A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3 A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2013, 08:50:41 PM »
Don't forget the three rules!

1 A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2 A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3 A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Someone is familiar with Isaac Asimov I see !
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2013, 08:54:08 PM »
You know what?

After giving it some more thought I don't think it matters.

I'd like to see a show of hands of folkes that understand http ,https. ssl, tcp, ip, ftp, scp, etc.

I reckon they ain't killed us yet.
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2013, 08:56:55 PM »
Someone is familiar with Isaac Asimov I see !

I have not read the book but I have seen both movies!
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2013, 09:30:05 PM »
I have not read the book but I have seen both movies!

I read R.U.R. long before I read Asimov.

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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2013, 09:48:48 PM »
I read R.U.R. long before I read Asimov.

Interesting, Iv'e not read R.U.R, i"ll look for it.

My favorite robots are in the Saberhagen Berserker series..
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2013, 09:52:28 PM »
I read R.U.R. long before I read Asimov.
Hmmm, first I've heard of RUR. Interesting.
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2013, 09:55:52 PM »

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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2013, 10:48:21 PM »
Interesting, Iv'e not read R.U.R, i"ll look for it.

My favorite robots are in the Saberhagen Berserker series..

Hmmm, first I've heard of RUR. Interesting.

It was a play about human like robots written way back in the 1920's or so IIRC, Anton Chekov(sp?).

I used to read a comic way back when about a guy that fought renegade robots.


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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2013, 11:42:04 PM »
Consider ourselves lucky that the Nexus 6 will have only a 4 year lifespan, and be limited to the offworld colonies.

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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2013, 10:29:30 AM »
Don't forget the three rules!

1 A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2 A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3 A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.


I don't think these guys heard of those rules...

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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2013, 10:32:32 AM »
I don't think these guys heard of those rules...

They didn't listen to Hal, either.
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2013, 11:14:07 AM »
They didn't listen to Hal, either.

Nope. I don't think "Take a stress pill" was high on their to-do list.
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2013, 12:47:35 PM »
The robots that made the biggest impression on me that I haven't seen mention.
The robinson robot
Gort from the original day the earth stood still. The remake robot wasn't too bad either.
Robbie the robot from forbidden planet.
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2013, 02:39:51 PM »
The robots that made the biggest impression on me that I haven't seen mention.
The robinson robot
Gort from the original day the earth stood still. The remake robot wasn't too bad either.
Robbie the robot from forbidden planet.

My favorite robot story was about using robots to mine ore on the moon.  Had to be 5,000 of them working and one day they all disappeared. The mining officials sent out thousands of humans to find out where they went but no one could find them.

No one ever found them and the frustrated mining engineer that got pissed one day and yelled at them " Get Lost leave me alone" had no idea what he had done.

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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2013, 03:21:03 PM »
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2013, 03:42:31 PM »
You know what?

After giving it some more thought I don't think it matters.

I'd like to see a show of hands of folkes that understand http ,https. ssl, tcp, ip, ftp, scp, etc.

I reckon they ain't killed us yet.

OK.  My hand is up.  Now what?

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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2013, 03:49:15 PM »
OK.  My hand is up.  Now what?

 :tongue:


That makes us a danger to the robot conspiracy.

You've been warned.
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2013, 03:57:09 PM »

That makes us a danger to the robot conspiracy.

You've been warned.

I keep a portable EMP device in my pocket.  Robots beware.
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2013, 03:58:36 PM »
I keep a portable EMP device in my pocket.  Robots beware.

There is a joke there somewhere.   :whistling:
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Re: I like robots as much as anyone
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2013, 04:07:02 PM »
There is a joke there somewhere.   :whistling:

I'll bet it's not really an EMP device.  I'll bet he's just happy to see you.  :-)
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