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On Sunday afternoon, the Obama Department of Justice announced that it would pursue investigation into George Zimmerman. That announcement came just hours after Zimmerman was acquitted for second-degree murder and manslaughter in the killing of Trayvon Martin, and within one day of the NAACP calling on the DOJ for an investigation.

Here is the Department of Justice statement in full:

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As the Department first acknowledged last year, we have an open investigation into the death of Trayvon Martin. The Department of Justice’s Criminal Section of the Civil Rights Division, the United States Attorney’s Office for the Middle District of Florida, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation continue to evaluate the evidence generated during the federal investigation, as well as the evidence and testimony from the state trial. Experienced federal prosecutors will determine whether the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation of any of the limited federal criminal civil rights statutes within our jurisdiction, and whether federal prosecution is appropriate in accordance with the Department’s policy governing successive federal prosecution following a state trial.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/14/DOJ-investigate-Zimmerman
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2013, 03:34:36 PM »
".....we have an open investigation with closed minds into the death of Trayvon Martin."
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2013, 03:36:01 PM »
This is complete bullshit. The Feds have ZERO right to interfere in a states business in my opinion.

What are they going to do, dig through all the saved NSA data and pull up some unrelated obscure bullshit?

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2013, 03:41:27 PM »
This is complete bullshit. The Feds have ZERO right to interfere in a states business in my opinion.

What are they going to do, dig through all the saved NSA data and pull up some unrelated obscure bullshit?

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Burden of proof is less in a Fed case than a state case.  They'll get the "justice" that was "denied" in the trial that just ended.
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Re: Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2013, 03:42:05 PM »
Gee, there's a shocker....
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2013, 03:42:48 PM »
I hate these people.

If they do, I hope Zimmerman counter sues. 
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2013, 03:46:14 PM »
Burden of proof is less in a Fed case than a state case.  They'll get the "justice" that was "denied" in the trial that just ended.

I'm hearing Gregg Jarrett say that it might not be an easy case to prosecute--something about a DOJ report, with FBI "goodness" saying that there was no indication of a civil rights violation . . .
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2013, 03:47:58 PM »
Black Panthers denying peoples civil right to vote goes unpunished but a mans right to defend his community and himself must be abolished/punished.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2013, 03:49:15 PM »
I'm hearing Gregg Jarrett say that it might not be an easy case to prosecute--something about a DOJ report, with FBI "goodness" saying that there was no indication of a civil rights violation . . .

When has that ever mattered to this administration?
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2013, 04:04:31 PM »
I'm hearing Gregg Jarrett say that it might not be an easy case to prosecute--something about a DOJ report, with FBI "goodness" saying that there was no indication of a civil rights violation . . .

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By Patrik Jonsson, Staff writer / July 12, 2012

FBI report: No evidence George Zimmerman is racist

An FBI investigation into the shooting of black teenager Travyon Martin concluded that there's no evidence the suspect, George Zimmerman, was motived by racial bias or hatred.

After interviewing 30 people familiar with George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain charged with killing African-American teenager Trayvon Martin, FBI agents found no evidence that the shooting was driven by racial bias or animus.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0712/FBI-report-No-evidence-George-Zimmerman-is-racist

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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2013, 04:16:58 PM »
WHY Breitbart runs with this bogus CR@P is beyond me!
 My guess is that they 'stole' the report from an Onion (satire) Like site!
The report is bogus .. just like the site!
(Onion anyone?)

Remember last month's report by the same site?

Fake ... DOJ & FBI Raid News Media Offices After
Releasing an Alarming Story on President Obama!



http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/bogus-report-dojfbi-raid-news-offices.html
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2013, 04:34:24 PM »
WHY Breitbart runs with this bogus CR@P is beyond me!
 My guess is that they 'stole' the report from an Onion (satire) Like site!
The report is bogus .. just like the site!
(Onion anyone?)

Remember last month's report by the same site?

Fake ... DOJ & FBI Raid News Media Offices After
Releasing an Alarming Story on President Obama!



http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/bogus-report-dojfbi-raid-news-offices.html

You're saying the DoJ purposely put out a false statement?  It's not just Breitbart that's reporting it.  Ny Daily New is as well.  The NAACP has already put out on social media they are working with DoJ to start the criminal proceedings.

Are you saying they are all reporting on some made up statement?
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2013, 04:40:01 PM »
You're saying the DoJ purposely put out a false statement?  It's not just Breitbart that's reporting it.  Ny Daily New is as well.  The NAACP has already put out on social media they are working with DoJ to start the criminal proceedings.

Are you saying they are all reporting on some made up statement?

That is my guess.

The DOJ investigated the Racists bunk months ago and found none!

Too .. You cannot file Civil Rights charges against an 'ordinary' citizen!

(Civil Rights charges can only be filed against a government, State or Federal employee!)
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2013, 04:43:32 PM »
That is my guess.

The DOJ investigated the Racists bunk months ago and found none!

Too .. You cannot file Civil Rights charges against an 'ordinary' citizen!

(Civil Rights charges can only be filed against a government, State or Federal employee!)

That is what I thought. Wasn't sure though.
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2013, 04:59:06 PM »
That is my guess.

The DOJ investigated the Racists bunk months ago and found none!

Too .. You cannot file Civil Rights charges against an 'ordinary' citizen!

(Civil Rights charges can only be filed against a government, State or Federal employee!)

Weren't the cops in the Rodney King case charged with federal civil rights violations?

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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2013, 05:03:15 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/14/naacp-asking-obama-administration-to-pursue-zimmerman-civil-case/
Smoke and Mirrors!

As stated above .. Already investigated!

What is the POS (Obama) gonna say?

Justice has prevailed?

Of course the POS (Obama) tends to ignore laws that he doesn't like so .. Who can really know?
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2013, 05:18:59 PM »
Weren't the cops in the Rodney King case charged with federal civil rights violations?

That's his point, Thundley. The COPS -being government employees - were charged. Zimmerman isn't a government employee, ergo he can't be (legitimately) charged with violating St. Skittles' civil rights.

Of course, the counter-argument to this is that the cops on scene of St.Skittles martyrdom determined that it was a clean shoot right at the very beginning, and the state prosecutor's office took it upon itself to press bogus charges anyway, so we can certainly say that the standard of prosecutorial incompetence demands that Comrade Holder press charges anyway, regardless of what the facts support.
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2013, 05:19:29 PM »
Weren't the cops in the Rodney King case charged with federal civil rights violations?
They were COPS!
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2013, 05:20:09 PM »
A HATE crime would/could be prosecuted under law 'but' That has been debunked!

Not only that but Zimmerman was found innocent by way of self protection .. WHICH IS NOT the same verdict as OJ Simpson enjoyed!

OJ was found not guilty of murder NOT innocent of murder due to self protection!

I see the OJ comparison bandied about .. all over the place so I thought that I would throw in the above!
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2013, 05:23:55 PM »
I'm not saying you're wrong mrclose, but I think we need to remember that this is administration that is not bound by rules/laws.
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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2013, 05:43:45 PM »
I'm not saying you're wrong mrclose, but I think we need to remember that this is administration that is not bound by rules/laws.
Sadly, I can't argue with that!

To expand on the OJ case ... OJ was sued .. In Civil Court by the Goldman's which was Not a civil rights issue!

A lesser degree of evidence is needed in that kind of case than in OJ's Criminal case!

The civil case found that OJ could have had the opportunity to kill his wife and her friend so the Goldman's won the suit.

Zimmerman was found not guilty due to self defense.

Nowhere are the two the same!
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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2013, 06:10:20 PM »
More likely to sic the IRS on him. That seems to be the weapon of choice these days. No administration in my memory has gone after private citizens and groups whom they consider enemies the way this one has.
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2013, 06:15:12 PM »
Florida law grants George Zimmerman immunity from civil action if he is found not guilty due to self-defense.

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(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer ...

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Re: DOJ TO INVESTIGATE ZIMMERMAN FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2013, 06:27:03 PM »
More likely to sic the IRS on him. That seems to be the weapon of choice these days. No administration in my memory has gone after private citizens and groups whom they consider enemies the way this one has.

Most likely. This admin is grossly out of line with our constitution. They do not think they have to follow the laws of the land cause they "make the laws" may all of them drown in their own blood someday soon.
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