People too broke to pay $20/month for birth control to boycott FL

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

ignatzmouse (337 posts)

Stand Your Ground With Trayvon -- Tourism Boycott of Florida
 
The only thing that will compel Florida to rid themselves of their murderous, racist Stand Your Ground law, is a tourism boycott. That includes Disneyworld, their beaches, and their theme parks. It is their economy. The threat of economic boycotts have led Southern States to remove Confederate emblems from their state flags. You want to effect change in Florida, boycott their tourism, stick with it, and stand your ground.

Ecumenist (5,727 posts)

1. I TOTALLY agree with this because it's the one thing they understand. MONEY

I have family there and my maternal grandmother was MIKOSUKEE,paternal was Seminole. Hell, I'm boycotting so much that you couldn't get me to fly the **** over the state. STARVE THEM UNTIL THEY CHANGE THAT ****ED UP "LAW"!

UserNSAv32 (15 posts)

3. White Racists and Gun Nuts will flock to FL to show support of any boycott just like they did with
 
that Bigoted Chicken Place and they will gloat about it too.

But I agree with a boycott and will support it!

Cronus Protagonist (15,200 posts)

23. When the state fills up with brown shirted people wearing their logos...
 
(I think a brown shirt is the best thing to put your patch on...)


 
 The Zimmerman Zupporters

KG (23,459 posts)

5. boycotting won't do shit except hurt working people who had nothing to do with the trial.

HiPointDem (19,299 posts)

11. wah wah maybe they should change their racist law

bluestate10 (8,893 posts)

20. Florida has very large Latino, Haitian, and Black populations that are thinly registered.

The key to change is to get unregistered voters registered and voting in all elections. The right will try their own registration drives, but the fact is, the population of haters is pretty much 100% registered and voting now.

BainsBane (12,832 posts)

13. Why not rally around gun control instead?
 
rather than boycotting the state of Florida? Press state legislatures to repeal SYG laws, and work at the federal and state level for reforms like expanded background checks and limits on magazine sizes.

One issue germane to this case is felon disenfranchisement. One reason that juries have such low representation of African-Americans is that in many states anyone convicted of a felony, as sadly too many black males are, loses his civic participation for the rest of his life. That includes voting and the ability to serve on juries.

Isn't it telling that the pro-gun control party lists convicted felons as its voting bloc?

LuvNewcastle (3,673 posts)

24. Felon disenfranchisement is a big problem.

I can understand if a state doesn't allow people who are in jail to vote, although I've heard that some states allow it. But after a person has done his time, his right to vote should be restored. I believe that the right to vote should only be suspended in extreme cases, if at all, and it certainly shouldn't be taken away for life if a person pays his debt to society and is released. Our right to vote is sacred. Taking away that right should be regarded as seriously as taking away someone's life.

I've never understood the idea that once a person leaves prison the penalty of what did suddenly ceases.

ignatzmouse (337 posts)

22. Push back against the emboldened tide of racists

The point is that overturning the Stand Your Ground is a step in pushing back against the racist subtext that is pervading and emboldening the southern Right. The point is to avoid complacency and not only stand up to what has transpired in Florida but to also send notice to other states with these racist laws and those considering enacting them and other measures that there are consequences. It is the only thing that I can see that stands a chance at making a difference. I'm sorry there are consequences for people in the state, but if you don't want to risk it, don't put a bunch of clowns in office.

The leftist war on blacks:

1. convince blacks that law-abiding society rejects them

2. use culture wars to get blacks to reject society in return

3. claim crime is an understandable result of mutual rejectionism

4. use crime statistics to complain that blacks are over-represented in crime statistics or harmed by self defense laws

5. use crime statistics to --

6. convince blacks that law-abiding society rejects them

7. use culture wars to get blacks to reject society in return

8. claim crime is an understandable result of mutual rejectionism

9. use crime statistics to complain that blacks are over-represented in crime statistics or harmed by self defense laws

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023252172

[Delmar]

Response to ignatzmouse (Original post)Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:25 AM
 ChangeUp106 (299 posts)
30. And the conservatives will then flock their in droves

Look at the Chick-Fil-A thing. We stopped going, they held festivals with the Alaskan Moose Hunter the main attraction.

DUmmy ChangeUp numbers just read my mind.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I'm going to FL to buy 30-round mags and stopping off at Chik-fil-Hate for lunch.

[ExGeeEye]

I've never understood the idea that once a person leaves prison the penalty of what did suddenly ceases.

And I've never understood the idea that once a person leaves prison the penalty of what did hasn't been paid in full.

That's what Les Miserables was all -- OK, not all, but significantly -- about.

If you don't think a prison sentence fully served is sufficient penalty, then advocate for longer sentences.  Or an expanded death penalty.

(Of course, I'm the 2nd Amendment radical who believes that a convicted armed robber, who legally owned his gun, should get it back along with his wallet and shoelaces -- and his franchise -- upon release.)

[Splashdown]

Why does DU hate Hispanic people?

[dane]

I'm going to FL to buy 30-round mags and stopping off at Chik-fil-Hate for lunch.

I only have revolvers, so the only support I can give is to buy more rounds, extra speed-loaders, and a couple more speed-loader pouches.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

And I've never understood the idea that once a person leaves prison the penalty of what did hasn't been paid in full.

There are different degrees of punishment. Obviously we do not incarcerate for every offense. There are times when not incarcerating people could be a preferred method but punishment should still continue, i.e. sex offenders not being allowed to cohabitate with minor children, violent criminals not allowed to own guns, insider traders not being allowed to work on Wall St., drunks not being allowed to drive. These are all things free people are free to do absent criminal due process but some people -- after due process -- have been found to commit such egregious offenses that it becomes appropriate to impose a lifetime prohibition.

Society can impose lifetime prohibitions on a person duly convicted because penalties are what society says they ought to be through its legislature. We elect people to write our laws which include the penalty.

If prohibitions end with incarceration then the only way to impose lifetime prohibitions would be lifetime incarceration.

[ExGeeEye]

If prohibitions end with incarceration then the only way to impose lifetime prohibitions would be lifetime incarceration.

I'd be OK with that.  In fact, I would be OK with an expanded death penalty.  If you intend a convict will die in prison, what's the diff whether it's 40 years, or 40 days from sentencing?  Millions (hundreds of thousands per individual) in taxpayer money.  That's all.

As for penalties not including confinement: I personally object to deprivation of civil rights, especially the right to self-defense, being a part of that.

[jtyangel]

Awesome. No more assholes on the beaches or the theme parks. Can't wait to go back home again next summer. Woohoo:)

[ColonelCarrots]

Good. Get out of my damn state!

[Skul]

I only have revolvers, so the only support I can give is to buy more rounds, extra speed-loaders, and a couple more speed-loader pouches.

There's a good market for thirty round cylinders.
Perfect business opportunity.

[JohnnyReb]

People too broke to pay $20/month for birth control to boycott FL....those aren't tourist, they're new state freeloaders.

[franksolich]

This is actually a stale old idea, boycotting a place because of politics.

Many years ago, back almost into the medieval era, Hollywood stars demanded that people boycott Colorado, for some reason long forgotten.  They really pushed it.

But at the same time the movie star celebs were urging ordinary people to avoid Colorado, they themselves were buying up prime real-estate in places such as Aspen, and flying to that state damned near every weekend.

[Skul]

This is actually a stale old idea, boycotting a place because of politics.

Many years ago, back almost into the medieval era, Hollywood stars demanded that people boycott Colorado, for some reason long forgotten.  They really pushed it.

But at the same time the movie star celebs were urging ordinary people to avoid Colorado, they themselves were buying up prime real-estate in places such as Aspen, and flying to that state damned near every weekend.

There was something on the ballot that year that appeared to give the ghays special rights over others.
For the most, it did not.  There were just a couple items that seemed a bit strange.  Don't recall them exactly.
Baba strysand had a cow, e i e i o
We laughed at her.

[Big Dog]

In honor of the DUmmy boycott of Florida, I will smoke a cigar from the Thompson Cigar Outlet in Tampa; drink a tall  Florida's Natural OJ and Bacardi Brown Rum; then watch a few episodes of Burn Notice, The Glades, and CSI:Miami.

Suck it, DUmmies.

[obumazombie]

^The libs on my other site are so self admittedly depraved they would take your "suck it" admonition as a compliment.

[Big Dog]

^The libs on my other site are so self admittedly depraved they would take your "suck it" admonition as a compliment.

Last year, I would have enjoyed twisting those libs in knots (and I took every opportunity to do so).

Since I happily divorced myself from all leftists and collectivists in my life, I want nothing to do with them.

[obumazombie]

^I can absolutely relate to that.

[JohnnyReb]

Good god Almighty, I hope no one writes a book, "See Florida on $20 or Less per Month".

[ExGeeEye]

Good god Almighty, I hope no one writes a book, "See Florida on $20 or Less per Month".

[dandi]

UserNSAv32 (15 posts)

3. White Racists and Gun Nuts will flock to FL to show support of any boycott just like they did with
 
that Bigoted Chicken Place and they will gloat about it too.

But I agree with a boycott and will support it!

Oh, if that were only true. Loud, obnoxious, amoral moonbats staying out of my beloved state in favor of well-mannered, decent conservatives increasing their visits. What a dream.

I'll go you one better - how about you DUmmies already living here haul your asses out permanently and conservatives come in? More productivity and less drain on the state coffers.