I don't understand why so many progressives are letting themselves be manipulate

[Ptarmigan]

Perhaps, why we call you sheeples. Leftists are so easy to manipulate as they have group think mentality.

pnwmom (44,469 posts)

I don't understand why so many progressives are letting themselves be manipulated [View all]

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 into a huge uproar against Obama about programs that began in the Bush years, were repeatedly approved by large majorities of Congress, and were scaled back and/or eliminated by Obama? Warrantless wiretapping ended before Obama took office and another Bush program ended in 2011. The collection of telephone metadata goes on, but this information was discussed in public years ago. Why was there no uproar then? Why is it happening now, after Benghazi, the IRS, etc.? Why is all the anger directed against Obama instead of both parties in Congress?

We've known since 2001 that the US, Presidents and Congress, was going after al Queda all over the world. So how did people think they were being tracked? Through carrier pigeon? Bloodhounds?

I understand why people are disturbed by US surveillance and think the debate is important and necessary and that further changes may need to occur.

But after three fake scandals against Obama in quick succession, why are progressives so willing to, once again, form a circular firing squad? Some ask why we focus on Snowden. I'd like to know why the focus on Obama for programs heavily supported by members of both parties in Congress?

leftstreet (22,454 posts)
1. Those pesky progressives. Expecting warrants and such!!

Pfft

Cleita (65,144 posts)
101. +1000

sabrina 1 (35,693 posts)
157. Warning! Invoking Godwin's law, well using the words of MLK actually:

"Never forget that everything that was done in Germany was legal"

Such silly, whining, end of days speculative talk on the part of MLK. Didn't he know, nothing that was happening was against the LAW!!

railsback (1,207 posts)
165. Yes, we are the Nazis and STASI now!

Persecuting gays, liberals, Jews! Public executions! Mass genocide! Check points every block! Curfews! Its ALL coming, folks! Get your guns, duct tape your windows and ready your cyanide capsules!

Good Gawd.

sabrina 1 (35,693 posts)
220. Muslims. Over one million of them dead so far, WMDs dropped on their countries, their children

I notice you left them out. How could anyone forget those mass killings? Human beings being slaughtered and no one knows why. It's all secret!

We won't persecute anyone who doesn't protest the status quo. But see the torture of those who do, like Bradley Manning. The brutality towards OWS, the near killing of several of those peaceful protesters. Just keep quiet, watch what you say and don't rock the boat and you'll be okay.

And we have 'Secret Kill Lists'! How democratic of us! But we can't know what lands someone on one of those 'KILL LISTS'. What did they do? No one knows! It doesn't matter, it's for the Homeland! Trust your leaders.

The Patriot Act, Homeland Security. Such carefully chosen names for the demise of the rule of law.

And everything is legal!

villager (19,309 posts)
8. True progressives willingly throw the 4th Amendment under the bus!

Or haven't you heard?

graham4anything (11,204 posts)
49. no. I am a 60s 70s liberal. Never a progressive.

fjlovato (18 posts)
166. What is a Progressive?

I am a 73 yeard old liberal Democrat and have never claimed to be a "progressive", what ever that is. A real liberal believes in government while, what I percieve to be a progressive is a conservative with his/her brains kicked out. Read some of these posts - these progressives are afraid of everything much as the conservatives. They deserve each other.

A progressive is a conservative with brains kicked out????????????  I thought progressive is another word for leftist. No? 

L0oniX (18,425 posts)
3. LMFAO ...the irony.

Buzz Clik (30,472 posts)
27. Irony? I'm missing it.

nadinbrzezinski (123,024 posts)
104. Good catch

Irony indeed

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[Freeper]

Progressive an liberal is the same damn thing. What happens is the moonbats pick a label and because of their moronic beliefs that label becomes a liability so every couple of decades or so they switch back and forth between progressive and liberal.

[diesel driver]

Progressive an liberal is the same damn thing. What happens is the moonbats pick a label and because of their moronic beliefs that label becomes a liability so every couple of decades or so they switch back and forth between progressive and liberal.

I have a name for them that serves both very well and endures the ages.

I call them "STUPID"!

[Bad Dog]

I find Dirty Hippie pretty much timeless.

[obumazombie]

I am considering a mole with an arab flair. 2 names come to mind. Some variation of Walid Shoebat, or Brigitte Gabriel. I don't know how long I could avoid suspicion as a female though.

[USA4ME]

Interesting times on the island the last couple of weeks.

First they tried "If you're on DU and critical of Obama then you're a racist."

That didn't work like they wanted, so then they tried...

"Well, you're not a racist if you don't agree 100% of the time, but if you use talking points that closely resemble the RW then you're racist."

Of course, anyone who said something even mildly critical (and that's all they ever really do there, when they are critical at all) was called out for it being "talking points that closely resemble the RW," and therefore racist.

So that didn't work out so well.

Now it's "Why are those of you who don't worship Obama 100% of the time like the rest of us allowing yourselves to be manipulated? You're only helping the GOP, you know."

We'll see how this goes.

Wonder what will come next after this?

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