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Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« on: July 03, 2013, 12:04:55 PM »
Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity


By RACHAEL BADE and JOHN BRESNAHAN | 7/2/13 9:30 PM EDT

Embattled IRS official Lois Lerner will not testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee unless she’s given immunity from prosecution, her lawyer told POLITICO Tuesday.

“They can obtain her testimony tomorrow by doing it the easy way … immunity,” William W. Taylor III said in a phone interview. “That’s the way to resolve all of this.”

Taylor, a founding partner of Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, is even shrugging off the possibility that the full House might vote to hold Lerner in contempt.

“None of this matters,” he said. “I mean, nobody likes to be held in contempt of Congress, of course, but the real question is one that we’re fairly confident about, and I don’t think any district judge in the country would hold that she waived.”

The oversight panel voted along party lines last week that Lerner waived her Fifth Amendment rights at a May 22 hearing when she boldly declared her innocence in the IRS scandal and said she violated no laws — then invoked her constitutional protections to ward off self-incriminating questions from lawmakers.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/lois-lerner-irs-testimony-immunity-93684.html?hp=f1


I think for this situation, I will lean on the prescient, and wise, words of our dear leader, barky obinga:

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No shizzle, yo prizzle...
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 12:11:34 PM »
Considering her earlier actions on the FEC, I hope Issa jams it in sideways.  Unfortunately I'm not very sure of Issa's motives.
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 12:13:43 PM »
In a Congress functioning as designed, there's no deal, and she either answers the damned questions, or rots in a jail cell until she does for contempt of Congress and perjuring herself in her initial testimony before Congress.

In the Congress which presently obtains, however...  :banghead:
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 01:50:18 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on July 03, 2013, 12:13:43 PM
In a Congress functioning as designed, there's no deal, and she either answers the damned questions, or rots in a jail cell until she does for contempt of Congress and perjuring herself in her initial testimony before Congress.

In the Congress which presently obtains, however...  :banghead:

Obama would pardon her toot-sweet.
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 01:53:27 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on July 03, 2013, 01:50:18 PM
Obama would pardon her toot-sweet.

He couldn't, I don't think.  I don't believe that holding someone considered to be in contempt of a court, grand jury, or in this case, Congress, is considered a sentence, and thus it can't be commuted or pardoned.


(Willing to be proven wrong on this, by the way.)
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 01:54:45 PM »
He would find some way of giving her executive privilege like he did holder over Fast and furious.
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 01:56:06 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on July 03, 2013, 12:04:55 PM
Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity



She's got that Obama/Mussolini look down pat.

Damn, with an attitude like that, one could drown in the shower.
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 02:00:16 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on July 03, 2013, 01:53:27 PM
He couldn't, I don't think.  I don't believe that holding someone considered to be in contempt of a court, grand jury, or in this case, Congress, is considered a sentence, and thus it can't be commuted or pardoned.


(Willing to be proven wrong on this, by the way.)

I agree with Hathcock. She be granted Executive Immunity t save the king's ass.

I think if they're sentenced by any court, including the Senate, they can be pardoned. (I'm also prepared to be proved wrong on this.)
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 03:13:57 PM »
Well, like Rush said........."we now live in a banana republic..........the dictator (my word) rules all".
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 05:28:06 PM »
I thought she did nothing wrong, so why would she need immunity?
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 06:01:52 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on July 03, 2013, 05:28:06 PM
I thought she did nothing wrong, so why would she need immunity?
Against the left's vitriol.
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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 02:06:00 PM »
It looks like this IRS scandal will land in the Chief Counsel's office of William Wilkins, appointed by Obama

IRS Chief Counsel Had Non-Profit Expertise, Democratic Ties - See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/white-house-irs-chief-counsel-had-non-profit-expertise-democratic-ties#sthash.rRPCV7sO.dpuf

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Re: Lois Lerner’s price for testimony: Immunity
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2013, 02:13:10 PM »
Quote from: Dori on July 18, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
It looks like this IRS scandal will land in the Chief Counsel's office of William Wilkins, appointed by Obama

IRS Chief Counsel Had Non-Profit Expertise, Democratic Ties - See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/white-house-irs-chief-counsel-had-non-profit-expertise-democratic-ties#sthash.rRPCV7sO.dpuf


A similar thread from my other forum...

http://www.netfriction.com/DisplayMsg.asp?
ForumID=91&Msgid=2023905&page=1&Title=IRS%20Scandal%20One%20Step%20Away%20From%20Lib's

I apologize in advance for the depraved comments from the depraved libs.
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