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Offline Carl

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Poor Dain without a brain
« on: July 03, 2013, 09:17:05 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023156620

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Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:07 AM
 DainBramaged (38,401 posts)

Obama’s Brilliant Move Deals A Blow To The GOP’s 2014 Hopes
With one brilliant political masterstroke, the Obama administration pulled the rug out from Republicans who were hoping to run against Obamacare in 2014.

An innocent looking blog post at the Department of the Treasury has turned the GOP’s strategy for the 2014 election on its ear. Mark J. Mazur wrote, “The Administration is announcing that it will provide an additional year before the ACA mandatory employer and insurer reporting requirements begin. This is designed to meet two goals. First, it will allow us to consider ways to simplify the new reporting requirements consistent with the law. Second, it will provide time to adapt health coverage and reporting systems while employers are moving toward making health coverage affordable and accessible for their employees. Within the next week, we will publish formal guidance describing this transition.”

Republicans have been telegraphing since they lost the 2012 election that they intended to run against the employer mandate. John Boehner mentions Obamacare every week when he meets with the media for a reason. Republicans at both the congressional and state level can’t run on their economic records. They can’t run on their legislative records. Republicans were planning on making 2014 a replay of 2010 by focusing on Obamacare, but the White House kneecapped them with an announcement that nobody expected.

Republican former CBO director, Douglas Holtz-Eakin explained why this announcement was both a stunner and deviously brilliant, “Democrats no longer face the immediate specter of running against the fallout from a heavy regulatory imposition on employers across the land. Explaining away the mandate was going to be a big political lift; having the White House airbrush it from the landscape is way better. It helps with ObamaCare in other ways as well. The administration was flailing to find high-profile allies (e.g., the National Football League) to advertise the wonders of ObamaCare. In a single masterstroke it has given every company a reason to explain its existence (“don’t worry, you’ll be fine in the exchanges”) and created a de facto advertising campaign of enormous scale and reach. Deviously brilliant.”


http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/02/obamas-brilliant-move-deals-blow-gops-2014-hopes.html

It does not go well for the idiot.

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:17 AM
The Link (528 posts)
3. Was this mandate meant to help people or hurt people?

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Response to The Link (Reply #3)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:19 AM
 DainBramaged (38,401 posts)
5. If you have to ask that question, maybe you should revisit the law

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Response to DainBramaged (Reply #5)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:21 AM
The Link (528 posts)
8. I guess a brilliant political move trumps helping those in need of it the most.

 

****ing awesome political move

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:19 AM
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4. A one year delay in this component does not mean Republicans cannot or will not use it as fodder

The delay simply means the component won't be live and in practice while Republicans are campaigning against it.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #4)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:20 AM
 DainBramaged (38,401 posts)
6. Of course, the glass is half empty.....

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zeemike (11,327 posts)
12. In a sense it is an admission

That the law is not working...
And I predict that is exactly what they will say...

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:44 AM
kentuck (67,233 posts)
14. I broke their fist with my nose...

Isn't it great!

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #16)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:24 AM
 tridim (41,054 posts)
21. "See voters! It doesn't work!"

But Faux News bubblehead/GOP asshole/hate radio dude, I keep getting refund checks from my insurance company. My premiums are shrinking and my sick child is no longer being denied coverage. I don't get it?

"Just trust us, it's not working"

Whatever.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:08 AM
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20. This is some serious whistling past the graveyard.

ACA is supposed to be the crowning achievement of his administration. It's supposed to help people (though I'm skeptical that herding people into for-profit corporate rolls under penalty of tax law is "help").

Now they're saying if it is in effect at the time of the mid-terms it will be politically damaging? Gee! I would have hoped if it had been in effect in time for the mid-terms it would have been politically advantageous. But that's just me, apparently.

Now this law, which they won't show you, as if it is an embarrassing new girlfriend, will come into play in time for the 2016 PRESIDENTIAL election. Why worry about giving the GOP the senate because we don't trust our own signature legislation when we can wait 2 years to give them the senate AND the White House?

Meanwhile, the GOP gets another 2 years to talk it down, obstruct it, nibble at the edges so by the time it does come into effect it absolutely will be the nightmare they claim it is.

This is not smart, this is cynical political calculation at the expense of those we are supposed to be helping.

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29. The hallmark of any great piece of legislation

Is how politically advantageous it is to delay its implementation.

Thanks for admitting what a train wreck ACA will be.

 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

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Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:06 AM
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43. And then we can delay implementation until 2017 so as to deal a blow to the GOP's 2016 hopes. And

then we can just keep pushing it back every two years and the GOP will never know what hit them. We rock!

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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 09:23:26 AM »
Brilliant?  No.  Self-serving and corrupt?  Most definitely.
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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 09:26:21 AM »
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14. I broke their fist with my nose...

Isn't it great!
When kentuck thinks you're a dumbass, you've really accomplished something.
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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 09:37:16 AM »
Toooo funny!   :lmao:

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having the White House airbrush it from the landscape is way better
  Who is this idiot that allegedly said that? 

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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 10:25:47 AM »
So funny to watch the DUmmie echo chamber fall apart.  I guess the Sharpton, Madcow, Tingles, etc talking points aren't getting out fast enough.   :rotf:
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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 10:28:15 AM »
So funny to watch the DUmmie echo chamber fall apart.  I guess the Sharpton, Madcow, Tingles, etc talking points aren't getting out fast enough.   :rotf:

DUmmies have been stuck by so many democrat talking points....they're bleeding to death.
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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 10:32:46 AM »
Brilliant?  No.  Self-serving and corrupt?  Most definitely.

SPOT ON!

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I keep getting refund checks from my insurance company. My premiums are shrinking

I want what this person is taking. I did receive another rebate check for $47. That is about 1/3 of what my monthly premium went up in the last year. About 1/10 fo what my premium has gone up since the cACA was passed. Now my insurance company is not participating in kalifornia's exchange (If you like your plan you can keep your plan). The premiums for the exchange is supposedly 50-80% more and I am no longer grandfathered in. My solution will be to pay the fine and then buy insurance when I need it. Cancel it after I'm done.

As to this brilliant move,, it is golden opportunity for the republicans to demonstrate how terrible the bill is and the total incompetence of the man in the White house and his ass clowns he has surrounded himself with.
After Romney Care ws passed in Massachusetts, they had the highest premiums in the nation. Under 0bama HellCare those premiums go up even more. So much so that the state is asking for a waiver. Any demokrat party legislation does exactly the opposite of what it is named. That's a rule that will never bbe proven wrong.
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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 10:34:04 AM »
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... I keep getting refund checks from my insurance company. My premiums are shrinking...

This is why I never worry about finances. As long as there's individuals out there who are as stupid as the tridim primitive, there's always someone off of whom to make easy money.

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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 10:40:11 AM »
This is why I never worry about finances. As long as there's individuals out there who are as stupid as the tridim primitive, there's always someone off of whom to make easy money.

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"There's a sucker born every minute"....the population of the U.S. has increased since then so there's a sucker born every nanosecond now.
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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 12:16:49 PM »
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Any demokrat party legislation does exactly the opposite of what it is named.

Isn't that the truth!!

Tridim is over there, desperately running around defending this piece of shit (alone).  I don't believe for one second his premiums went down.  If so, he's the only one in the entire country. 

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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 07:45:32 PM »
When I read threads like that I try to pick out which ones I think are moles. Sometimes I lean most heavily towards the asinine replies. They have the most potential to illustrate stupidity with stupidity.
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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2013, 07:55:04 PM »
45,000 people are going to die next year because of Obama's "deviously brilliant" idea.

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45,000 U.S. deaths a year due to lack of health insurance
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis released on Thursday.
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Re: Poor Dain without a brain
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2013, 08:33:22 PM »
^"In Large Part"
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