MrDorkio's plan to turn the House "blue"

[Tess Anderson]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023117964

By diluting their vote and leaving all their sanctuary cities - LONG:

 Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:42 AM

 MrScorpio (55,836 posts)


It's nothing less than the makings of a coup by the GOP


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 To wrest power, in spite of any democratic decision otherwise.

The slashing of the Voting Rights Act, along with voter suppression laws and massively uninhibited gerrymandering seeks to do one thing; make the votes of people who normally support Republicans worth twice more than those who normally support Democrats.
 
The main population centers of the country mostly do not support the Republican party, Blue America, whereas Red America mostly make up the space in between. Those huge swaths of red have not been lost on Republicans, who in spite of the Electoral College, believe that they can use all of that red space to their advantage.
 
The US House of Representatives is a perfect example of their efforts to prevent Democrats from being elected as the majority party. Make NO mistake about it, Democrats are the majority party in this country. The GOP House majority is an unnatural occurrence, due to the gerrymandering, while in the Senate, where most states vote for their members by a purely popular vote process, it more accurately depicts the preferences of each state electorate.
 
The next stage that the GOP will attempt in order to regain the White House and take over the Senate will be to constrict the value of votes in traditionally blue areas. Section Five of the VRA was instrumental in stopping the Right in those states from suppressing traditional left leaning voters. It was essential in facilitating the natural process of a declining majority white demographic trend and inhibiting efforts by the right power structure in those effected states to remain unchallenged now and in the future.
 
After voter suppression, a massive effort to isolate blue areas through redistricting will commence.
 
Major population areas are, by definition, multi-cultural in nature and naturally more likely to become more tolerant and egalitarian. They are naturally blue. This kind of thing is the bane of a non-inclusive and intolerant Red America.
 
Since Blue America has the people, I suggest that Blue should start invading Red to create a more Purple America. An America that more accurately reflects the nation's overall political preferences. Some of that movement need not be too radical at all, simply by moving from safe blue districts to marginally affected red districts. The result would create more purple ones.
 
There will be a process of isolation against Blue America facilitated by the Far Right, the GOP and the corporate allies who stand to gain from voter suppression.
 
Only True Democracy can defeat their efforts.

he should start by moving to rural Utah

[USA4ME]

What voter suppression?  I'm guessing the idiots on Skin's island never read the decision. The boy primitive can barely spell his own name.

If the Dept of Justice believes a certain district, or even a State, is violating the rights of voters, all they have to do is provide sufficient evidence and the rules go back in place for that district/State. You just can't rubber stamp whole areas anymore based upon how voting went in 1972, that's all.

The law is still in place, you just need evidence of a problem. Get over it, primitives. You're to stupid to be alive.

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[Skul]

Only True Democracy can defeat their efforts.

That is why it's important to have a republic.
With a republic, even the minority have a voice.
Think about that....PUnk.

[franksolich]

The boy primitive can barely spell his own name.

I was wondering that too, the first time I read it.

So I re-read it.

I'll bet O'Dorkio swiped it from somewhere else; ain't no way he can write that good.

[Big Dog]

Mrs. Corpio's brilliant plan:

"Y'all move".

[Splashdown]

Tough to argue racism in elections when there's a black president and a black attorney general. Nice try, though.

[BlueStateSaint]

That is why it's important to have a republic.
With a republic, even the minority have a voice.
Think about that....PUnk.

Wouldn't that be "plonk?"

[Skul]

Wouldn't that be "plonk?"

Yes, and 
 

[Carl]

In other words the commie in true leftist fashion wants all that disagree with him to be silenced one way or another.

Question for you pineapple head...how often do you hear a conservative demanding or even wishing a person that disagreed with them politically vanquished from the debate?
Almost never but it is the foundation of a leftist as seen by your own putrid cesspool.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

mountain grammy (1,898 posts)

34. America will be a lost cause with a GOP coup..

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We're halfway there with a corrupt GOP supreme court and a GOP house majority.
When the GOP has power, their focus is looking for new and better ways to obstruct progress and maintain power. When Dems have power they actually try to govern.
The GOP considers "governing" restricting abortion, equal rights, voting rights, freedom from religion, and perpetual war. Anything to keep them in power.
The GOP is winning this fight and that is very scary indeed.
I've finally convinced my husband to put half our life savings in a Canadian bank as we find fewer reasons to trust our own country, and believe me, it has nothing to do with taxes.

Doctor_J (26,666 posts)

8. And many of us realize that Obama is in a position to lead the resistance
 
but he is too busy "reaching out" and listening to phone calls.

DCBob (15,180 posts)

9. Actually he is more busy trying to fend off the lunatics making false claims.

Doctor_J (26,666 posts)

54. This is such bizarre thinking

After 9/11, the Repukes told us than basically Bush was off limits from criticism because he was "fighting the war on terror". Now the BOGers are telling us that because SCOTUS has run amok, Obama is off limits from criticism because all of his energy is being devoted to fighting Scalia. Here's a clue: Proposing cuts to SS benefits does not help the fight against the right. Supporting legislation that Boner likes more than Grayson & Sanders do does not help fight the right. All those kinds of disasters do is disengage a lot of undecided/neutral voters who would help get Fat Tony and Slappy under control if they thought they were being listened to.

DevonRex (20,558 posts)

63. You can't get off your ass unless the President tells you to?

And, by the way, have you just stuck you fingers in your ears all the times he DID tell you to get off your ass and make Congress do what YOU want them to?

So, what exactly does LEAD mean? March across a bridge in Selma? Challenge Roberts and Scalia and Kennedy to duels? What? He HAS given us a national organization, OFA, to work with. So use it. Or just type complaints about HIM 24/7. But if all you do is the last one, I call bullshit loud and clear.

Doctor_J (26,666 posts)

67. Tell Holder to start throwing vote suppressionists in prison

Send the national guard to make sure legal voters can vote. Issue an EO implementing background checks for guns, which at least 3/4 of Americans suport. Obamacare is now the law of the land. When these teabaggers break it, prosecute them.

This is the strangest train of discussion ever.

BOGers: The president can't do anything about anything. And BTW stop complaining about SS cuts and domestic spying. You can't do that AND fight the right at the same time.

It's gotten to resemble a mental illness. Look at the first reply to Mr. Scorpio's OP. "We can't fight the right because too many people are complaining about being spied on"

The BOGers are so busy defending domestic spying that they join sides with the teabaggers to try to suppress sane voices on the president's republican initiatives.

Good luck with that.

Moostache (1,391 posts)

18. I encourage people to begin boycotting moneyed interests and their Right-leaning owners.

I refuse to eat at Papa John's so-called pizza or even allow Chick-fil-Hate into my home. The big-mouth, little-mind owners of those establishments make it easy for me to identify them and avoid patronizing their businesses. I move that the only way to REALLY get the attention of the oligarch class is to unite in protest in the language they understand and respect - profit margin.

If enough people take a stand and unite to boycott their economic interests due to their political malfeasance, then we can hit these bastards where they live and force them to change or perish. Yes, they have money and they use that money to buy portions of the system to further their agendas, but we can and must hit them where it really registers - their bank accounts and profit statements.

Jackpine Radical (36,761 posts)

43. Meanwhile you eat food out of Koch Bros. plastic containers

& wipe your butt with their products.

Boycotting any number of egregiously stupid businesses will not bring down the empire. You'll just be buying from someone else who equally bad.

Personally, I think we will have to build an alternative system of co-ops & worker-owned industries, green farms & the like & starve the bastards on a major scale.

Get your loan through a credit union. Buy your food from a small farmer. Etc.

Good luck with that too.

Moostache (1,391 posts)

57. I do not completely disagree...
 
But, we have to start somewhere.

And although the image of the Koch brothers wiping my ass is amusing, I think change will come through consistent, prinicples stances by the public. Educating our fellow citizens, calling "bullshit" on the GOP and its bigoted denizens, and maintaining the fight is a good start if not a great ending (yet).

Gay rights was once a hopeless cause.
Slavery was once the intractable law of the land. Hell, we've even been down this road to facist government before with the runaway power of the trusts before Teddy Roosevelt.

I see the distance to run and know I won't make it to the promised land myself....but maybe my kids will, and if not them, then maybe someone else's kids will.

In the meantime, I just like making heads explode here in East Kansas by calling it "Chick-fil-Hate" and letting them get their church on and begin lecturing me while I smirk.

SCVDem (1,047 posts)

64. Ever hear of a bidet nozzle?
 
About 25 bucks and you keep personal washcloths for drying.

No more TP.

 

MrSlayer (21,683 posts)

35. Excellent analysis but there's one major problem.

How do you suggest we "invade" the red areas? Who has the money or inclination to move out to Bumble****, Indiana when you have all the amenities you can ever want within walking distance in the cities?

It's true that they gerrymandered the living shit out of the country but whose fault is that? Quite frankly the national party has no one to blame but themselves for not taking the bull by the horns and rolling over the Republicans with the progressive legislation the people were begging for. We wanted major changes from the Reaganism that's been killing us for thirty plus years. From starting negotiations at a centrist point and then bending over backward to give the right wing every consideration, these corporate Kochsuckers did everything they could to prevent it from happening. Honestly, they looked scared to death to have all the power because people expected them to do something good with it and they are not interested in that at all. We were sold out a long time ago and the unwillingness of the 2009 congress proved it.

Other than a small handful of people we have no friends in Washington. None at all.

I hate to be doom and gloom but what you just described is going to happen and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it. That horse left the barn for good in November 1980.

jtuck004 (5,314 posts)

61. "I suggest that Blue should start invading Red " Good strategy. Needs money. Lots of it. n/t

Good luck with that, welfare losers.

Doctor_J (26,666 posts)

68. I would drink Drano before I'd move to UT or OK
 
Seccession is a MUCH better alternative, starting with cutting the red states off from their federal funding.

Good luck with that Unarmed Annie.

Kablooie (8,986 posts)

74. There must be plenty of Blue voters in Red districts or else the GOP wouldn't need to do this crap.
 
Someone has to get them out to vote inspite of all the road blocks.

Democrat Voters: Too stupid to get an ID or find the polling station -- but smart enough to govern America!

MNBrewer (6,252 posts)

78. We will have to have an NGO with pervasive reach reporting all changes in voting to the Justice
 
department. Or keeping track of it, anyway. I'm sure we can put together a Voter's Rights Watch group. Have 1 or two volunteers in each precinct to keep tabs on all changes made. This ruling itself may not be as bad as some think. If additional rulings follow that limit voting rights in other ways, then it will start to get much worse.

There are already poll watchers, shithead.

[USA4ME]

Doctor_J

All those kinds of disasters do is disengage a lot of undecided/neutral voters who would help get Fat Tony and Slappy under control if they thought they were being listened to.

Racist much?

You're a primitive. Of course you do.

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[jukin]

Major population areas are, by definition, multi-cultural in nature and naturally more likely to become more tolerant and egalitarian. They are naturally blue. This kind of thing is the bane of a non-inclusive and intolerant Red America.

I give you the democrat machine run cities of Detroit and Chicago as my counter argument.

Case. Closed.

[Skul]

Doctor_J (26,666 posts)

68. I would drink Drano before I'd move to UT or OK Practice makes perfect, just in case.
 
Seccession is a MUCH better alternative, starting with cutting the red states off from their federal funding.

We get to stop sending in tax money, then. 
Gee, I wonder who would come out ahead in that game? 

[Undies]

Personally, I think we will have to build an alternative system of co-ops & worker-owned industries, green farms & the like & starve the bastards on a major scale.

  You goons can't organize a decent pot party.

[Freeper]

What is it about the left? They get exactly what they want and yet they are even more bitter than they were before.

They have a Marxist president doing his best to destroy capitalism, marriage is being destroyed and redefined as whatever they want it to be, illegal aliens will get amnesty, freebies, and voting rights, single payer health care is just a couple of years away, guns are about to be taken from even more people, the rich are getting soaked with taxes by all levels of government, they are getting everything they want and yet they are still bitter pathetic people.

[98ZJUSMC]

Nice try, though.

Not really.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

What is it about the left? They get exactly what they want and yet they are even more bitter than they were before.

Because everything they believe in and desire is based on greed, envy and hate. They pretend to champion the virtues of peace and love but in reality they are spiteful little monstrosities.

Every person becomes more of the thing that motivates them as they achieve success through those motivations.

Consider the contrast:

Frank refers to us as "decent and civilized peopled." This is not mere self-congratulatory egoism, it's true. We want to be left alone, i.e. free. When we achieve what we want we go on about our business unconcerned with the affairs of others.

However, because the Proglodytes are such nasty, tiny creatures the more they succeed the more they assume the characteristics that drive them: Spite, Covetousness, Jealousy, Avarice, Gluttony, Sloth.