Climate scientist: Global warming models could be ‘fundamentally wrong’

[CG6468]

Climate scientist: Global warming models could be ‘fundamentally wrong’
3:53 PM 06/21/2013

In an interview with the German news publication Der Spiegel, meteorologist Hans von Storch said that scientists are so puzzled by the 15-year standstill in global warming that if the trend continues their models could be “fundamentally wrong.”

“If things continue as they have been, in five years, at the latest, we will need to acknowledge that something is fundamentally wrong with our climate models,” Storch told Der Spiegel. “A 20-year pause in global warming does not occur in a single modeled scenario. But even today, we are finding it very difficult to reconcile actual temperature trends with our expectations.”

Environmentalists have been increasingly calling on President Obama to address global warming before it becomes irreversible. The World Bank reported that global temperatures could rise by 4 degrees Celsius over the next century if greenhouse gas emissions aren’t brought under control. Many world leaders are committed to limit the increase to 2 degrees Celsius.

“The scientists tell us that if the world warms by two degrees Centigrade (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) — warming which may be reached in 20 to 30 years — that will cause widespread food shortages, unprecedented heat waves, and more intense cyclones,” said World Bank president Jim Yong Kim in a statement.

Could algore be wrong? (Does a chicken have lips?)

[Bad Dog]

If this keeps up, the hucksters are going to have to go back to glow-ball-cooling. I just want one of these so-called scientists to tell me what the perfect temperature of the globe is.  I will accept average or mean.

[Articulate Ape]

SPIEGEL: Despite all these problem areas, do you still believe global warming will continue?

Storch: Yes, we are certainly going to see an increase of 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) or more -- and by the end of this century, mind you. That's what my instinct tells me, since I don't know exactly how emission levels will develop. Other climate researchers might have a different instinct. Our models certainly include a great number of highly subjective assumptions. Natural science is also a social process, and one far more influenced by the spirit of the times than non-scientists can imagine. You can expect many more surprises.

They're down to instinct now?  Lol!

[J P Sousa]

A quote on the "Hockey Stick" illusion;

  Well, it happens. People make mistakes in science. Corrections get made. That’s how it works, is it not? Few papers get such scrutiny as this had. But that is an even more worrying thought: how much dodgy science is being published without the benefit of an audit by Mcintyre’s ilk? As a long-time champion of science, I find the reaction of the scientific establishment more shocking than anything. The reaction was not even a shrug: it was shut-eyed denial. 

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/14/hockey-stick-illusion-%E2%80%9Cshut-eyed-denial%E2%80%9D/

"People make mistakes in science". Really ?   
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[rich_t]

Could be?

ROFLMAO.

[vesta111]

Could be?

ROFLMAO.

So how to explain the frozen mammoths we find in the Arctic with butter cups in their stomach ???

Are we not schooled that humans came out of Asia on a land bridge due to the sinking of the sea ?????  Theory is some thousands stayed in the Arctic and adjusted and adapted to survive in conditions we today cannot imagine.

The ice age, wonder where that came from,  some humans survived it.

We have to adapt to survive, be it climate or economic destruction.

What to do, we can wring our hands in dispair,  throw billions of dollars at experts to figure out what is happening OR hunker down and spend the money to develop ways to change our old ways to survive the changes.

Drought is bad but Hemp planted will renew the soil, except the company's in the
chemical business and the cotton growers will try to prevent it.   

If people in the tornado areas can have storm cellars built, why not make them the size of a house and live in them ?????

Lord help the people living in the west and the forest fires that are destroying homes and whole towns,  Is there no product on the market that can be sprayed on homes to make them fire proof ???

Got to think outside the box, I see beach homes built on stilts 10 feet high just in case of tidal serge.

Up to us to see what can or cannot happen, and learn to as our ancestors did how to build an igloo to keep the bears away.   

[Wineslob]

I'd like ManBearPig to answer one question; What is the "normal" temperature of the earth?