Drunken Irishman (24,593 posts)
If it's not racism, then what is it?
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I've been gone from DU for a few months now and thought I would stop in to see...
eh...who gives a ****.
It's a long and tedious post and the gist of it is: criticizing Obama is racist and DU criticizes Obama a lot these days.
Welcome to my warren.
Before I go in to the meaty responses I'd like to ask: Is it just me or does the name DrunkenIrishman seem a bit racist?
I know, I know: he chose the name and he's allowed to do so because he's Irish and they have a reputation (read: stereotype) for excessive alcohol consumption so if he wants to leverage that reputation in the name of internet mirth then it is his perogative.
But it seems to me that is one truly wanted to contend with racism one should confront it in all forms in every instance. To me, his username makes his complaint ring hollow.
Imagine trying to enroll on DU with names like: ShrinkyChink, PimpinNiggah or TacoBender.
The rules are different.
Equality demands it.
Anyhoo, on to the good stuff...
MADem (87,302 posts)
7. It's the old "Gotta work twice as hard to get half the credit" thing going on.
It's something, that's for sure.
Good rant.
Obama can do 100 times worse than Nixon and get 1/100th the media coverage.
Scootaloo (6,112 posts)
236. +∞²
Obama is very definitely being held to a very different standard than any president prior. The "We expect more from a democrat" argument falls flat when you look at the shit Clinton got away with - and still gets away with without a peep from the left.
It's not that people are brooding under white hoods about how much they hate blacks or anything - it's because American society is deeply, possibly indelibly racist. You can't help but absorb it growing up, internalizing it, seeing it as just "how the world works." This nation, its politics, its media, even the foundational rhetoric, makes the assumption that white male hetero cisgendered property-owners are the "normal," and everyone outside that standard must continually be proven against it.
Then get the **** out.
If we're so *******ed irredeemably ass-backwards then why are you staying here? Go run-off to some civilized corner of the Middle East and wait to repel the next racist imperialist war of aggression for oil or whatever.
And yet you want us to hand you everything you too much of a ****ing failure to secure for yourself.
carolinayellowdog (2,284 posts)
10. a single explanation won't suffice for two very different phenomena
If you conflate "a few who have been virulently anti-Obama for years" and "the many who lately are outraged by the NSA revelations" and try to come up with a one-size-fits-all explanation, it's not likely to be accurate for either category.
And yet, the people who opposed gun control under Clinton and Romney are racist for opposing it under Obama.
One size does fit all if you shove your head up your ass hard enough.
progressoid (27,403 posts)
13. Ask Cornel West, Harry Belafonte, Tavis Smiley, etc.
Are you saying that our criticisms are based in racism, while theirs are not?
PragmaticLiberal (367 posts)
72. I can't speak for Belafonte
But West and Smiley's criticisms are in large part rooted in thier wounded egos and jealousy.
Waitaminute! Waitaminute! Waitaminute!
This jackass is saying the nearly the entirety of the black "civil rights" movement in the US, as recognized by the Proglodytes, is comprised of tiny-minded, jealous, petty egoists?
You're telling us the leftist black leadership is almost exclusively made-up of self-serving charlatans?
...
...
And we're the racists.
LittleBlue (2,979 posts)
61. Calling criticism of government policy "racism" is simpleminded
Such a crude argument isn't worthy of serious consideration. By the same reasoning, I could argue that progressives were "over-the-top" in their racist criticism of Bush.
It's a load of nonsense. I wouldn't advise you to say this in public, the argument will be ripped to shreds by anyone with a brain.
Puzzledtraveller (2,397 posts)
257. It was inferred that I was a racist for making a similar comment during the 2012 election
that labeling all opposition racist was lazy and dishonest and not constructive to our dialog among fellow Democrats but in the greater course of trying to appeal to other voters. Now, we can see what that attitude has done as it shows itself on DU and we are eating each other alive over it. I feel somewhat vindicated, though I take no pleasure in that.
You idiots are about to learn (or not) another law of economics: if you have an oversupply of something it loses its value.
You have an extreme oversupply of complaints of racism.
JoeyT (4,739 posts)
69. If you want to know why moderates and uninformed don't take
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you seriously when you call actual racists racist, I'd like you to know this is why.
Yell wolf often enough and loudly enough, and sooner or later everyone's going to stop looking for the wolf. Call everyone that disagrees with a president's policy racist, and sooner or later everyone's going to stop listening to you when you point at actual racists that don't disagree with him but hate him because he's not white.
Edited to add: I'm not white either, for what it's worth.
WOLVES
They're menacing.(and not white)
Bobbie Jo (7,829 posts)
71. Having read through the
predictable responses, it's clear many didn't even bother to read your post.
Same simplistic regurgitation.
Same dramatic offense.
Same holier than thou attitude.
Same closed mindedness.
Same divisive language.
Same shit different day.
No, DI....they didn't even bother to read it, much less make an effort to understand what you're trying to say.
Hope you stick around, your voice is sorely needed.
Crying "racist" as a shield against EVERY SINGLE ****ING dispute is simple regurgitation.
Crying "racist" as a shield against EVERY SINGLE ****ING dispute is dramatic offense.
Crying "racist" as a shield against EVERY SINGLE ****ING dispute is holier than thou attitude.
Crying "racist" as a shield against EVERY SINGLE ****ING dispute is closed mindedness.
Crying "racist" as a shield against EVERY SINGLE ****ING dispute is divisive language
Crying "racist" as a shield against EVERY SINGLE ****ING dispute is the same shit, different day.
But since it isn't racism yet you're committed to the intellectual dishonesty of claiming it is I realize you will never turn away from this tactic. You're too weak/corrupt to do the right thing.
madokie (36,955 posts)
87. Its racism pure and simple
I've been pointing this out for a few years now.
leftstreet (22,229 posts)
89. How did Obama get elected?
madokie (36,955 posts)
119. Not all people are racist
the racist ones are the ones making all the noise.
If Nixon were black.
DeSwiss (17,507 posts)
250. Is that so?
I was black before
Obama was born. I'm
pretty sure I'm not
racist either. But
don't go by me.....
I don't hate you for being black.
I hate you for that sweater.
bluestate10 (8,678 posts)
90. With one sentence, you nailed the snake's skin to a wall <snip>
Weird.
The expression used to be, "Nailed the coon skin to the wall."
What changed?
Skip Intro (18,148 posts)
116. It is all the apologists have left, and it's popping up regularly now.
Criticize Obama or his admin, you must be racist.
Fail to praise Obama frequently, you must be racist.
That's the new/old/new tactic.
But, as evidenced by the replies to this thread, next to nobody is buying it.
I have renewed fondness for DU.
ucrdem (1,094 posts)
132. Welp, I think that cleared up any doubts.
Anyone visiting the thread will see ucrdem ran up and down the thread telling those who took umbrage with the OP or ProSense that they should leave the thread.
The Gay Mafia also puts in an appearance, squabbling over Obama's gay marriage boner-fides.
Drunken Irishman (24,593 posts)
169. My point is absolutely echoed in many replies to this post...
That's a shame.
<snip>
Your detractors took the time to explain their complaints.
You dismissed them without even weighing the merits of their complaints.
No rebuttals. No weighing of facts.
And then you cloak it in some long-winded bullshit as a facade towards reason.
You're done. You're ideology is bankrupt when it has to cannibalize its own to save itself. You're just too ****ing corrupt, stupid and stupidly corrupt to see it.
"Victory has defeated you." -- Bane,
The Dark Knight Risesredqueen (102,944 posts)
225. Those who engage in irrational attacks know damned well you weren't talking about criticism alone.
This 'Who, me?! I just disagree with him! Surely we can't all be expected to agree on everything and talk about how cute the dog is and how pretty Michelle's dresses are! Ha ha ha!' bullshit is a pathetic, weak-ass act and it fools no one.
Denial is confession.
Slavery is freedom.
OrwellwasRight (3,042 posts)
254. Who are you to determine which criticisms are "irrational" and which are not?
Seriously. That's code for, "if I don't like your opinions, I'll label you irrational and call you a racist." Oh wait, even better, from your last paragraph "a racist Republican." Screw that.
This entire thread is offensive and insulting. Worse than that, it has no basis in fact. One might call it "irrational."
Kolesar (29,536 posts)
179. You foils are like Republicans everywhere: experts on Benghazi, birth certificates, Florida recount
Only on DU you launch these pathetic threads about Snowden, chained CPI, climate change, ad nauseum. I cannot imagine what pathology keeps you on this forum. You don't get shaken off by displaying outright nuttery, so you get to keep your shtick going year by year. I don't see how you enjoy it. It must stimulate you somehow. Pathology
markiv (710 posts)
189. 'I could go on' NO SHIT! 3,468 words in 35 paragraphs?!?!?
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I started reading this, my eyes glazed over, and I scrolled down to see how long it was
Ever considered being just a tad bit more concise?
I nominate this thread for lengthiest diatribe
markiv (710 posts)
210. for comparison, the US Constitution is 4,501 words
in it's original form
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
you wrote 'anyone who questions Obama, is a racist', and you took 77 percent of the length of a document to found an entire nation to do it!
ARE YOU BEING PAID BY THE WORD?!?!?!
And on it goes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023049348
