primitives full of beans

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/115726927

Oh my.

bitchkitty (6,890 posts)    Sat Jun 15, 2013, 07:47 AM

Beans, beans, the musical fruit!

Are kidney beans more gassy than other types of beans? I've been a vegetarian for so long, that I don't usually have digestive problems with beans, but I haven't eaten kidney beans in years - until yesterday.
 
I made red beans and rice. I used kidney beans instead of my usual small red beans - mistake. They took FOREVER to cook and never did disintegrate into the sauce like they're supposed to. After 3 1/2 hours, I finally just used a potato masher and squished them up a little.
 
So they tasted okay, and had the right texture but within 30 minutes of eating - DAMN!!! I know beans can cause gas, but this was ridiculous! Because of this, they are inedible by anyone who wants to live in polite society. Ten year old boys would delight in these beans.
 
Tips for de-gassing beans?

There's an easy solution to this.

If one doesn't want to be flatulent, don't eat beans.

As simple as that.

GoCubsGo (13,156 posts)    Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:06 AM

1. Did you use dried or canned beans?

If you used dried, did you soak them? That usually helps. If not, I recommend Beano. Just be careful if you have cats. I had one who loved the stuff, and I had to hide it from him so that it was there when I needed it.
 
I always found that the more pale the bean, the gassier they made me. Navy beans were the worst. My gut is adapted to them now, so they no longer turn my backside into a wind farm.

bitchkitty (6,890 posts)    Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:18 AM

2. Dried, soaked overnight then rinsed and cooked in fresh water. I've heard of people then cooking for a short time, then rinsing and changing the water a second time - I didn't do that.
 
Beano's not really an option for me, it's not vegetarian/vegan. There's something called Bean-Zyme which supposedly works like Beano but I haven't needed anything like that. I eat a lot of black beans, chickpeas, lentils, and they had nothing on these kidney beans.
 
I think they may have been super old, since they took so long to cook.

livetohike (14,771 posts)    Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:25 AM

3. I always cook dried beans in the crock pot and put a little baking soda in toward the end of the cooking time. Maybe 1/2 tsp of baking soda. That seems to work for me.
 
My husband has trouble with kidney beans, cannellini beans, dried limas and great northern beans. I've been a vegetarian for 40+ years and still have minor issues with beans, but my husband has never improved on that front. Beano doesn't work for him. It's a waste of money.

Major Nikon (10,082 posts)    Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:31 AM

4. You discovered the recipe for insuring max flatus

The reason why beans produce gas is because your body can't break down all the carbohydrates. When those carbs hit your lower intestines, the bacteria flora that live there have a big party. By mashing up your beans you released those indigestible carbs, but didn't cook them long enough to break them down into simpler sugars.
 
If you really want to limit flatus, cover the beans with water in a pot and light a fire under it. As soon as the water comes to a boil shut off the heat and allow the beans to soak for an hour. Discard the soaking water and then cook as you normally would.
 
This technique dissolves many of the indigestible carbs in the beans into the water you discarded. The problem is it also flushes out a lot of the good stuff. What I do is cook beans which tend to cause more flatus for a longer time at a lower temperature. This breaks down the indigestible carbs into simpler ones your upper intestines can digest. Just put them in a crock pot on low and let them cook all day if needed until they soften. Experience will tell you how long this will take for any given legume in your crock pot and the mineral content of your water (hard water creates longer cooking times). I keep a journal in my kitchen where I write these things down.

Kali (34,362 posts)   Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:41 AM

10. it was probably just your system

if you continued to eat them, the problem would probably diminish as your digestive flora adapted to them
 
I have found the first servings of beans of any kind to be more ... uh ... "active" than even later servings of the same pot. Especially if I haven't had them in a while. New varieties are especially fun.

oh and the fact that     is my friend is no excuse for liking kidney beans. They, and limas, are the lowest of low of the bean world. Pintos are the top all around, all purpose bean. Others have their places but kidney beans...bleh. As you noticed they never seem to cook down, and like lima beans they desicate your mouth when you eat them. too dry!

[Skul]

Even dogs think farts are funny. 

[Undies]

I guess the DUmbass has never heard about Beano.   

[Bad Dog]

I was glad to hear it's cat loved Beano.  We recently adopted an 8yo male & he is killing us.

[Skul]

There's only one reason a Bad Dog, would adopt a cat.

Chew toy. 

[vesta111]

I guess the DUmbass has never heard about Beano.   

I was told years ago that I needed to know if beans were cooked using Beano as I am allergic to penicillin.   

I have no idea what the connection is and never asked but I also get itchy if I eat a lot of  yeast bread.

Allergy's are weird, seems they can come out of the blue and for me it will involve my favorite food or soaps I use the most.

Lately it seems to be tomatoes of all things, one glass of V8 and I get the trots. Fortunately if I stay away from a food or product for a few months it goes away to come back with another unrelated product. 

I know a woman that gets the worse farts from eating any kind of bean, she went to a health store and was told to put a dollop of active Plain Yogurt on the beans and it worked for her.   

Great mystery in life, a man gets really bad gas and everyone tries to ignore it.  His wife who cooked the meal also gets gas and everyone laughs and embarrasses her.

[Undies]

I was told years ago that I needed to know if beans were cooked using Beano as I am allergic to penicillin.   

I have no idea what the connection is and never asked but I also get itchy if I eat a lot of  yeast bread.

Allergy's are weird, seems they can come out of the blue and for me it will involve my favorite food or soaps I use the most.

Lately it seems to be tomatoes of all things, one glass of V8 and I get the trots. Fortunately if I stay away from a food or product for a few months it goes away to come back with another unrelated product. 

I know a woman that gets the worse farts from eating any kind of bean, she went to a health store and was told to put a dollop of active Plain Yogurt on the beans and it worked for her.   

Great mystery in life, a man gets really bad gas and everyone tries to ignore it.  His wife who cooked the meal also gets gas and everyone laughs and embarrasses her.

Vesta, you always have an amusing tidbit to add. 

[Karin]

"Beano isn't vegan," she sniffed.  "Not an option."   

I see that LivetoHike is still torturing her husband with that twigs and bark diet.  The whole thing sounds so disgusting.  I'm thinking maybe a cheeseburger for lunch.  With bacon.

[jukin]

Can anyone tell me why when I have been drinking beer, eating chili, broccoli salad, and have a few deviled eggs I get gas?

Does this happen to other people?

Is there something going on with me?

I also need to pee more often than usual.

[BlueStateSaint]

Can anyone tell me why when I have been drinking beer, eating chili, broccoli salad, and have a few deviled eggs I get gas?

Does this happen to other people?

Is there something going on with me?

I also need to pee more often than usual.

Sulphur is in a few of those.  I find the same thing . . . and Oreo stays upwind of me.

[diesel driver]

Even dogs think farts are funny.  

We had a Bassett Hound that would wake herself up from a sound sleep when she farted, then leave the room when she smelled it!  We learned to leave right behind her, because her gaseous emissions would burn your eyes and curl your nose hairs!  

Do you know why farts smell so bad?

So deaf people can enjoy them,  too!

[diesel driver]

Can anyone tell me why when I have been drinking beer, eating chili, broccoli salad, and have a few deviled eggs I get gas?

Does this happen to other people?

Is there something going on with me?

I also need to pee more often than usual.

Eggs and beer, a potentially "explosive" combination!   

[BlueStateSaint]

When I was a kid, we had a Siberian Husky.  Weeeell, one night my mother made pork chops with sauerkraut.  We couldn't stand the kraut (I have since come 180 degrees from this), so we fed it to the Siberian Husky under the table.  The next morning was my morning to get up with my dad and deliver newspapers.  We very nearly gagged from the stench of Husky farts.

[jukin]

When I was a kid, we had a Siberian Husky.  Weeeell, one night my mother made pork chops with sauerkraut.  We couldn't stand the kraut (I have since come 180 degrees from this), so we fed it to the Siberian Husky under the table.  The next morning was my morning to get up with my dad and deliver newspapers.  We very nearly gagged from the stench of Husky farts.

My First Vizsla did the same thing. I think she could take the stink but not the ridicule.