Oh me!!!! The dump is melting down and the mods are stoned and munching on cheetos. Got another dummie... high post count chiming in:
Dump meltdown in progress WillyT (45,994 posts)
Ok... Don't Believe Me... Take It From An Expert...
Firsthand experience with these systems, and horror at their capabilities, is what drove a career intelligence officer to provide PowerPoint slides about PRISM and supporting materials to The Washington Post in order to expose what he believes to be a gross intrusion on privacy. “They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,†the officer said.
From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_print.html
And awaaaay we go!!!!
uponit7771 (16,366 posts)
1. Please state how this is different from what the NSA has been doing for the last 100 years with
...phone calls of foreigners?!
Real time capture of email is supposed to be different than non real time!?!!?!
Really!? is that the news here?!
Apparently the dummie has no clue how PC's work... and has no idea of when the NSA was created.
villager (19,094 posts)
4. Well, except for the fact the NSA hasn't existed for 100 years....
....to start with..
KoKo (69,799 posts)
23. Do you know what was going on a Hundred Years ago...that you are
so bold to say NSA was around then? Perhaps you meant another agency...and if you could give a link it would be helpful about the 100 years.
Seriously...please edit your post...because it didn't come off well. We've all had some posts that jumped out before we took time to think...
Dummie Kookoo tries to help the other dummie out, but...
WillyT (45,994 posts)
5. I Don't Know... You Should Maybe Ask The Career Intelligence Officer...
who risked his livelihood to get this info out.
1StrongBlackMan (5,490 posts)
42. Good Idea …
There seems to be a lot of Career Government folks risking their livelihoods to get info out to ask. And, some of it, after examination, had a kennel of truth to their career risking disclosures, too.
But not before the chorus of “Democrats/Progressives/Liberals†serenaded us with a rousing rendition of “I’ll never, ever, ever, ever, ever vote Democratic again!â€
Just a kernel?
sheshe2 (5,192 posts)
47. I've provided the link to your first excerpt, WillyT,
It was updated at 5:14 tonight. I thought you might find it interesting.
The Washington Post Has Now Hedged Its Stunning Claim About Google, Facebook, Etc, Giving The Government Direct Access To Their Servers
Henry Blodget | Jun. 7, 2013, 5:14 PM | 7,400 | 31
The government agencies, the Post said, were "tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs that enable analysts to track a person’s movements and contacts over time."
This surveillance program, the Post reported, had been "knowingly" facilitated by the tech companies, which had allowed the government to tap directly into their central servers.
The Post story described a "career intelligence officer" as being so horrified by the power and privacy intrusion of this surveillance system that the officer was helping to leak the news to expose it.
"They quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type,†the officer reportedly told the Post.
SNIP
The story also led to immediate, explicit denials from the technology companies. Google, Facebook, and Yahoo all said that the government did not have "direct access" to any servers. Apple said it had never even heard of the program it was supposedly partnering with.
So The Post's claim that the companies had voluntarily given the government direct, open, un-monitored access to their servers quickly seemed suspect.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/washington-post-updates-spying-story-2013-6#ixzz2VaQQocuX
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/washington-post-updates-spying-story-2013-6#ixzz2VaPccCBy
Conspiracy theorist!!!
And now we have the expert:
nadinbrzezinski (121,015 posts)
7. I guess each year these days is a six month affair
at least...
So who created this new calendar?
and that is just for starters.
By the way, the rise of the National Security State is worrisome, but the last ten years are breathtaking. Just because your guy is in the WH does not make it right
Whoa... what? Did nads just say "your guy in the whitehouse?" Oh boy!!!! Nads is flirting with sleeping with the fishes.
kenny blankenship (15,125 posts)
15. An innovation of the New Era
You may call it January 20, 2009, but we know it to be the Year Zero.
Well's 1984 was off by a couple decades.
Warpy (69,504 posts)
2. Oh, we all find it appalling
What we don't agree with is that it all started with that black guy in the White House.
Most of us have been alive longer without falling off any turnip trucks and have known about this shit since the 60s.
Warpy trying to outdo nads?
Now wait for it....
Warpy (69,504 posts)
10. I'm not altogether certain he can
The NSA is an entrenched bureaucracy stuffed to the rafters with Republican appointees. They've done this shit to us for decades and they're not likely to stop just because a president or anyone else, including the Supreme Court, tells them to.
It's all the repubs fault!!!!
Th1onein (5,492 posts)
16. He led us to believe that he WAS going to do something about it.
And, now? It's gotten worse.
Obumbles lied? Who knew??
KoKo (69,799 posts)
26. Well..it's said...he can't do anything about it because of the Republicans.
So...it means that no one can do anything about anything...because "it's the Republicans forever. More and Better Democrats or whatever...seems to be the solution.
But, there is no help from all the donations or whatever the momentum he had..to get those "more and better Democrats." So...what's next?
Impeachment?
Th1onein (5,492 posts)
31. Let's stop waiting for THEM to tell us what to do. Let's stop trusting THEM to lead us.
Let's put our heads together and do something, ourselves.
Cause that worked with all the other boycotts ya all did?
Now this:
BlueCheese (1,263 posts)
13. What does race have to do with this?
Indeed...
boilerbabe (2,084 posts)
27. it's a passive aggressive attempt to make critics
feel a bit racist . intimidation to quit criticizing. it's low.
Huge campfire. Well worth checking out the dump infighting.
