primitives debate Bible

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113727743

Oh my.

It's always highly entertaining, watching the primitives wiggle-waggle their arm-pits discussing the Bible.

William769 (30,728 posts)    Fri Jun 7, 2013, 09:34 PM

Religious Scholars: 'Biblical' Marriage Not Strictly One Man, One Woman.

The debate about marriage equality often centers, however discretely, on an appeal to the Bible. Unfortunately, such appeals often reflect a lack of biblical literacy on the part of those who use that complex collection of texts as an authority to enact modern social policy.
 
As academic biblical scholars, we wish to clarify that the biblical texts do not support the frequent claim that marriage between one man and one woman is the only type of marriage deemed acceptable by the Bible’s authors.
 
The fact that marriage is not defined as only that between one man and one woman is reflected in the entry on “marriage” in the authoritative Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible (2000): “Marriage is one expression of kinship family patterns in which typically a man and at least one woman cohabitate publicly and permanently as a basic social unit” (p. 861).
 
The phrase “at least one woman” recognizes that polygamy was not only allowed, but some polygamous biblical figures (e.g., Abraham, Jacob) were highly blessed. In 2 Samuel 12:8, the author says that it was God who gave David multiple wives: “I gave you your master’s house, and your master’s wives into your bosom. ... And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more” (Revised Standard Version).
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20130603/OPINION01/306030016/Iowa-View-1-man-1-woman-isn-t-the-Bible-s-only-marriage-view?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1
 
Now if they want to take the Bible literally let them, actually, I dare them.

<<<has had Wills on the "B" list of primitives for a while; am contemplating moving him up to the "A" list.

Only four primitive comments, two of them smug ones by Ugly, not worth bringing over.

[Vagabond]

Then came others after David, who noted that it was an institution between one man and one woman.  I guess the DUmp moknies don't like what is said in Sodom and Gomorrah either.

[Celtic Rose]

One man and at least one women still doesn't provide biblical support for homosexual marriage.

In some ways, our current divorce/remarriage phenomenon that is so common could be considered a form of serial polygamy

[Mr Mannn]

Why should I or any other believer listen to the arguments of atheists who hate and despise me and my faith?

Why should I listen when swine trample pearls of truth and twist scripture to say what they want? If they don't believe the very scripture they quote, why should I even give them the time of day?

I am always amazed when atheist bigots (who have never read the Bible) claim to be better biblical experts than believers who love and honor the Words of God.
DUmmies fear and loathe Christians and the Bible...how do they get to be experts? Probably the same way they get to be smarter than all other men on earth, by self proclamation.

Romans 1:22
Professing to be wise, they became fools,

[ChuckJ]

DUmmies debating the Bible is pretty much like nadin debating anything.

[Skul]

Why do DUmpmonkeys debate something they know nothing about?


Aw, crap, never mind.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113727743

Oh my.

It's always highly entertaining, watching the primitives wiggle-waggle their arm-pits discussing the Bible.

<<<has had Wills on the "B" list of primitives for a while; am contemplating moving him up to the "A" list.

Only four primitive comments, two of them smug ones by Ugly, not worth bringing over.

Okay.  Some Old Testament figures were polygamous.  What does the bible say about homosexuality?

[98ZJUSMC]

Why should I listen when swine trample pearls of truth and twist scripture to say what they want? If they don't believe the very scripture they quote, why should I even give them the time of day?

Twisting is the only way they can make a point, such that it is.  They have no intellectual basis other than false equivalence.   

[MrsSmith]

The Bible makes it abundantly clear that people have been messing up God's Laws ever since the very first Law.  That some tried polygamy does not change the very clear, and repeated, insistence: For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh

There are no options for 2 men, 2 women, polygamy...or divorce without infidelity.  Obviously, people don't manage this well...

[Aristotelian]

The Bible makes it abundantly clear that people have been messing up God's Laws ever since the very first Law.  That some tried polygamy does not change the very clear, and repeated, insistence: For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh

There are no options for 2 men, 2 women, polygamy...or divorce without infidelity.  Obviously, people don't manage this well...

Excellently put. ^5

[Aristotelian]

Okay.  Some Old Testament figures were polygamous.  What does the bible say about homosexuality?

This is the odd thing about their thread - one can spend one's entire life searching all 73 books, but one will find not the slightest shred of evidence in favour of homosexuality or gay-marriage.

Besides, aren't they always claiming that slippery slope arguments from gay-marriage to polygamy don't apply?

[obumazombie]

Usually about this time in a lib created artificial controversy they ask WWJD.

[GOBUCKS]

DUmmies discussing the Bible is like a group of cloistered nuns discussing their favorite death metal bands.

[Mr Mannn]

DUmmies discussing the Bible is like a group of cloistered nuns discussing their favorite death metal bands.

Its like a group of chickens who don't believe the Fox exists debating taking the fence down.