primitive doesn't get promoted in job

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018406344

Oh my.

Buddyblazon (2,189 posts)    Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:35 AM

After 15 years in my industry....working for a position that opens once a decade...I didn't get it.

I really have no one to talk to about this. So I figured I'd unload on DU.

After working to being the Senior Production Manager in my region for 15 years, the position became available. I'm basically the Junior Production Manager in region. Senior pays about 80-100k a year. Junior pays $19/hr. In the six years I've been in management, last year was the first year I surpassed 20k. I had a second job all those six years in order to be in that "queue" when the position opened.
 
The way my industry used to be, you sacrificed and made shitty pay for years, and when the Senior guy left, you were rewarded as the Junior guy by being given the job. That's how it's gone for 40 years. I'm friends with my boss that's leaving...and very close friends with the guy before him that left 13 years ago. My boss has had the position since. I'm good friends with the son of the guy who left 25 years ago. And that's the three guys for the last 40 years.
 
In concert production, relationships are king. It's what gives you your value. I interviewed for the position...lost out to a guy that wants to transfer him and his family out from Philadelphia. Now the corporate overlords tell me they want me to give this guy all the introductions to all my connections and make sure he gets to know them well and that they accept him.
 
Corporate boss (guy from operations...from the box office originally and was one of two doing the hiring process) tells me yesterday at a show I'm running. I interviewed with him. He laid it all out for me. "We'd like to keep you at your venue (a venue I love and brought back from the production grave and turned into a lean mean tip top production machine) and you'll get more shows as PM (I started out there as stage manager taking a pay cut for the opportunity to finally get in line for a position I wanted since my first day in production). This guy will take a few shows there, but most will be yours."
 
"How about a pay raise to show me you guys are being sincere?".

"That's not in the books right now. But when the new guy gets here, we need you to get him up to speed.".
 
I feel like putting a gun in my mouth.

Buddyblazon (2,189 posts)    Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:40 AM

1. The wife and I have been living on the financial edge for those 6 years...

She and I agreed the opportunity was too great. It was a position I could have until retirement.
 
Now we're both 40. Delayed having a child. The hope was to get this position and work on having a baby immediately.
 
What a sucker and a chump I am. My wife works graveyards and won't be home for another hour.
 
How the hell am I supposed to look her in the eye? Tell her I failed? After the sacrifice she made...and I came up short on my end of the stick.

Buddyblazon (2,189 posts)    Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:50 AM

4. I'm the first junior guy in 40 years not to be given the position...

when the senior guy leaves.

Not much more fail than that.

CaliforniaPeggy (104,278 posts)   Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:34 PM

9. How COULD they? That is just horrible.

Get going!

Make that baby. Find a new, better job. You have time!

Those people are unworthy, big time, of you and your abilities and talents.

**** THEM. And not in a good way.

[Chris_]

15 years and he barely cracked 20k.

Something smells fishy and it isn't my lunch.

[JohnnyReb]

Off the top of my head, no paper, no pencil and no calculator....50 weeks a year X 40 hours a week = 2,000 hours X $19 PER HR = $38,000 a year......and he says he barely made $20 thou a year?

I guess DUmmie laid out of work stoned or drunk to often, huh.

[Skul]

After reading this....

Buddyblazon (2,189 posts)    Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:50 AM

4. I'm the first junior guy in 40 years not to be given the position...

when the senior guy leaves.

Not much more fail than that.

I can't help but go back to this....

I really have no one to talk to about this. So I figured I'd unload on DU.

Your problem, I see it. 

[GOBUCKS]

Buddyblazon (2,189 posts)    Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:35 AM
I'm the first junior guy in 40 years not to be given the position...

Not much more fail than that.

How the hell am I supposed to look her in the eye? Tell her I failed? 
 
I feel like putting a gun in my mouth.

I think you've answered your own question, DUmmy.

[Mike220]

15 years and he barely cracked 20k.

Something smells fishy and it isn't my lunch.

Yup. I make 13.50/hr full time and I'll make almost 30k this year.

[SarasotaRepub]

There has to be more to the story...

And a jump from 20K or less to 80 - 100K???

[I_B_Perky]

Buddyblazon (2,189 posts)    Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:35 AM

After 15 years in my industry....working for a position that opens once a decade...I didn't get it.

I really have no one to talk to about this. So I figured I'd unload on DU.

After working to being the Senior Production Manager in my region for 15 years, the position became available. I'm basically the Junior Production Manager in region. Senior pays about 80-100k a year. Junior pays $19/hr. In the six years I've been in management, last year was the first year I surpassed 20k. I had a second job all those six years in order to be in that "queue" when the position opened.
 
The way my industry used to be, you sacrificed and made shitty pay for years, and when the Senior guy left, you were rewarded as the Junior guy by being given the job. That's how it's gone for 40 years. I'm friends with my boss that's leaving...and very close friends with the guy before him that left 13 years ago. My boss has had the position since. I'm good friends with the son of the guy who left 25 years ago. And that's the three guys for the last 40 years.
 
In concert production, relationships are king. It's what gives you your value. I interviewed for the position...lost out to a guy that wants to transfer him and his family out from Philadelphia. Now the corporate overlords tell me they want me to give this guy all the introductions to all my connections and make sure he gets to know them well and that they accept him.
 
Corporate boss (guy from operations...from the box office originally and was one of two doing the hiring process) tells me yesterday at a show I'm running. I interviewed with him. He laid it all out for me. "We'd like to keep you at your venue (a venue I love and brought back from the production grave and turned into a lean mean tip top production machine) and you'll get more shows as PM (I started out there as stage manager taking a pay cut for the opportunity to finally get in line for a position I wanted since my first day in production). This guy will take a few shows there, but most will be yours."
 
"How about a pay raise to show me you guys are being sincere?".

"That's not in the books right now. But when the new guy gets here, we need you to get him up to speed.".
 
I feel like putting a gun in my mouth.

Sounds to me like your attitude got in the way dummie. People don't get promoted when they complain about politics all the time.

In regards to putting the gun in your mouth dummie... try jumping off a tall building instead. Go out flying. You'd probably tie up traffic for a while too while they scraped you off the street. Pin a note to yourself blaming it all on the evil CEO of your company.

Or you could just quit and find another job like ordinary people.   

[Skul]

Yup. I make 13.50/hr full time and I'll make almost 30k this year.

You show up on time and don't leave hours early.  Every day.
You CYA when needed and don't leave your co-workers hanging in the breeze. 
Why DUmmies have a hard time.

[Celtic Rose]

In concert production, relationships are king. It's what gives you your value. I interviewed for the position...lost out to a guy that wants to transfer him and his family out from Philadelphia. Now the corporate overlords tell me they want me to give this guy all the introductions to all my connections and make sure he gets to know them well and that they accept him.

Clearly your bosses disagree and decided that this new guy had some value or skill set that you do not.  Maybe there were some behind the scene politics, or maybe they wanted somebody with more ambition who didn't just sit and wait in the junior position assuming they were a sure bet for promotion when senior production manager retired.

[Mr Mannn]

First of all...this is a DUmmy we are talking about. We are not being told the truth.

15 years = $20,000 salary? Might this be a part time position? This pay hardly speaks of an indispensable employee. Further he could not be in management at that low rate of pay.
*********** conclusion. This is a part time janitor.

What is with his expectation that 15 years at $20k = a $100k at year position...by default?
Has any business ever worked that way? If he was as good as he claimed he would be making far more than a mere $20 after 15 years. My guess is he is a well known, lazy, good-for-nuthin,  gold bricker.

Furthermore, I'm to believe that a DUmmy hasn't walduded himself 15 years on the job? You would think the constant attempts at making disability claims, showing up for work high, or not showing up for a week would have got him fired long ago.

Nope, only a fool would believe he was ever in line for a promotion to an all powerful position. (which means the DUmmies will all buy this sad sack story of woe.)

[Bad Dog]

Agree with the fishiness of the tale.  But I do so love reading their plaintive bleating.

[Mr Mannn]

Buddyblazon (2,189 posts)  
 
I feel like putting a gun in my mouth.

Probably the only useful thing you can do at the moment. Do it! The bosses will sure feel sorry then!
Think of the statement you'll make! Think of the masses that will take to the streets. Think of the monument raised in your honor...

[Skul]

Probably the only useful thing you can do at the moment. Do it! The bosses will sure feel sorry then!
Think of the statement you'll make! Think of the masses that will take to the streets. Think of the monument raised in your honor...

Is there pizza and Cheetos, in he77?
At least he won't go hungry. 

[jukin]

The wife and I have been living on the financial edge for those 6 years...

Democrats came back in power in 2007. Yes it is that simple you LUrking DUchebags.  Your democrat leaders lie to you. They don't give a shit about you, ask your typical black person how their loyalty to the promises of the democrat party are doing for them.

[Delmar]

I had a second job all those six years in order to be in that "queue" when the position opened.

Be honest with yourself Buddy, you never had a chance at that job.

Now all you can do is try to live up to your name by going out in a blaze of glory.

[tanstaafl]

Buddyblazon (2,189 posts)    Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:35 AM

After 15 years in my industry....working for a position that opens once a decade...I didn't get it.
 
I feel like putting a gun in my mouth.

If Buddy got together with the DUmb**** with the brain cyst, at least his widow would get a used Mustang out of the deal. Because suicide don't get the payoff from life insurance.
A DU Twofer.

[GOBUCKS]

Twenty bucks an hour is about $40K per year.

This DUmmy is only part time about twenty hours a week.

If his company needs to fill a $100K job, they're going to pick someone who works full time.

And no one wants to promote a DUmmy.

I still think he should go with the gun in his mouth.

[Skul]

Twenty bucks an hour is about $40K per year.

This DUmmy is only part time about twenty hours a week.

If his company needs to fill a $100K job, they're going to pick someone who works full time.

And no one wants to promote a DUmmy.

I still think he should go with the gun in his mouth.

Hope the idiot brings extra magazines.
He'd probably miss the first few shots.

[BadCat]

Democrat - the party of FAILURE.

[I_B_Perky]

Hope the idiot brings extra magazines.
He'd probably miss the first few shots.

That's why I told him to jump off a tall building instead, Skul. Even a dummie couldn't screw that up.   

[Skul]

That's why I told him to jump off a tall building instead, Skul. Even a dummie couldn't screw that up.   

Would you put money on that? 

[I_B_Perky]

Would you put money on that? 

 

No.   

[Mike220]

You show up on time and don't leave hours early.  Every day.
You CYA when needed and don't leave your co-workers hanging in the breeze. 
Why DUmmies have a hard time.

True. Plus since I'm the supervisor I'll get the blame if something goes wrong. Good incentive to be competent.

[Skul]

True. Plus since I'm the supervisor I'll get the blame if something goes wrong. Good incentive to be competent.

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