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hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« on: June 07, 2013, 06:14:51 PM »
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mopinko (39,727 posts)    Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:49 AM

want to recycle a barn.

so after much wrangling, the city of chicago is going to let me build a small barn on my microfarm.

since our really core principle here is sustainability, we would like to build it from recycled parts. it is pretty much a typical small scale barn, 40' x 25'.

the midwest is littered with dead and dying old barns. they can be had for little or nothing, you just have to take them down. there are companies that demolish your barn, or sell you parts from other barns. some even resaw old timbers to true them up.

there is also a great organization here that is deconstructing houses, so anything that i might need in that dept will be available, too. (love this place. the good old stuff, brass faucets and stuff like that, for pennies on the dollar.)
 
so, anyone have experience with working with recycled materials? am i buying myself extra headaches that will end up costing me more in the end?

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OffWithTheirHeads (9,054 posts)    Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:12 AM

1. Good God, have you ben to a home improvment store recently?

The lumber they are selling now days is class A shit! Warped, twisted, full of knots and splits and the hardware is all made in China by people who are not paid enough to give a ****. Parts are mismatched or missing pieces, the whole experience of re-modeling these days sucks the big one. You have to check and double check EVERYTHING! I would love to find a building materials re cycler here in Tucson.
 
Are you asking for trouble by buying re cycled? I doubt that you can buy yourself any more trouble than buying new.
 
This is from present day experience. I just bought a house and am gutting it. Hardly a day goes by when I don't have to make two trips to the hardware store to return something that was ****ed up when I first bought it.

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mopinko (39,727 posts)    Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:14 AM

3. yup.

just did a major rehab of the back porch on my home. picking through lumber piles for a straight ****ing 2 x 4 was starting to drive me into depression. so f'ing annoying.
 
not a small part of my whole thinking.

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Adsos Letter (14,122 posts)   Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:35 PM

7. I hear ya!

We're in the middle of remodeling this place. If I need decent wood I go to the local lumber yard. Costs more, though.

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lumberjack_jeff (24,654 posts)    Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:13 AM

2. there are a lot of good reasons to do it

But saving money isn't one of them.

Also old lumber is weaker than comparable new lumber and building inspectors want to see grade stamps.

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mopinko (39,727 posts)    Fri Jun 7, 2013, 06:45 PM

8. well, i'd be happy to break even.

and you can always over engineer.

chicago is both trying to be green, and trying to support urban farms. especially if i can get some good deals. they will be hard pressed to give me shit, methinks. (already had my share, everyone agrees.)
 
it would be a statement, for sure, that i need to make. so, there's that.

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X_Digger (13,219 posts)    Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:41 AM

5. Not on that scale, no.. never been quite that ambitious.

I've used barn siding for various projects, and I've re-sawn barn timbers into planks and turning blanks for furniture.
 
I'd imagine that the hardest part would be finding one that's structurally sound, but able to be taken down and reassembled without losing the character- a timberframe with pegs and mortise and tenon would be perfect.
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2013, 06:52:40 PM »
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mopinko (39,727 posts)    Fri Jun 7, 2013, 10:49 AM

want to recycle a barn.
Start with the pig-pen.
You'll feel right at home.  :lmao:
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2013, 08:20:43 PM »
They have to cut down trees for your lumber, dummie!!!  Why are you murdering trees for your barn, you murdering, greedy, asshole!!!
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2013, 10:13:14 PM »
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the city of chicago is going to let me build a small barn on my microfarm

I presume a "microfarm" is even smaller than a "farmette".

You may recall poor addled DUmmy grasswipe Judy squatted for a couple of years in the bonus room of a former friend on a "farmette".

It was just a suburban lot.
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2013, 10:28:25 PM »
A microfarm is a farmette without the broken glass and abandoned car parts.
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 11:03:59 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on June 07, 2013, 10:13:14 PM
I presume a "microfarm" is even smaller than a "farmette".

You may recall poor addled DUmmy grasswipe Judy squatted for a couple of years in the bonus room of a former friend on a "farmette".

It was just a suburban lot.

I see addled Grandma Judy must be being kept away from the internet by her guardians, children and grandchildren who don't like seeing Grandma make an ass of herself.
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2013, 04:15:33 AM »
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lumberjack_jeff (24,654 posts)    Fri Jun 7, 2013, 11:13 AM

..Also old lumber is weaker than comparable new lumber and building inspectors want to see grade stamps.


Bullshit!

I like to see DUmmie lumberjackoff_jeff drive a nail into a piece of 100 year old oak.  

As far as the inspectors go, the last one that was on MY property about 20 years ago, left in a hurry after I showed him the business end of a 12-gauge, and hasn't been back.  

(This guy was telling me he couldn't approve the foundation of my house addition because my footers weren't 12 inches thick.  The footers were poured on BEDROCK, but he wanted me to dig under the footers so he could determine the thickness of the concrete.)

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the city of chicago is going to let me build a small barn on my microfarm

That's nice.  The government will allow you to build something on YOUR property.  

Will they allow you to use it, too, or will you need permission to do that as well?

What's the going rate on permits for livestock, or would they need to do an environmental impact study before you can get one?

Is there a waiting period for buying livestock, and will you have to undergo a background check?  (Bulls are far more dangerous than guns.  Heavier, too.)

If you butcher one of your cows, will you have to have the meat inspected before you eat it?  (This goes for eggs, too.  Will they have to be sized and graded as well?)

Surely you won't be the owner of a smelly, dirty, smoking, fossil-fuel burning tractor, will you?  Think of the planet!

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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2013, 04:41:43 AM »
It's nice living in an unincorporated town. Permits are not needed. This includes when work is done on commercial property.

As long as the person doing the work has a contractors license, it's all good. If you are doing it yourself, that is fine also, you just don't have any recourse if it comes down on your head.
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2013, 12:39:36 PM »
Can I put cattle on a nanofarm?
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2013, 03:12:15 PM »
Hi,  I would like to buy 1/22nd of your old barn back there. I want to take my portion back with me to Chicago so I can build an eco free barn on my micro farm.


Get the F*#) of my land you stinking hippie!
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2013, 03:41:11 PM »
Eco my ass.  You just want something for free or cheap.
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2013, 04:10:38 PM »
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Eco my ass.  You just want something for free or cheap.

Yep.

The hypochondrial primitive's a notorious tightwad.

She makes Ebenezer Scrooge look like a spend-thrift, always wants things on the cheap just because they're cheap.
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2013, 04:20:15 PM »
The government should give everyone a microfarm.....with an old rotten barn.
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2013, 04:31:16 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on June 08, 2013, 12:39:36 PM
Can I put cattle on a nanofarm?
Just the front quarters.  :-)
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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2013, 04:48:36 AM »
This should do fine for his 'micro-farm' . . .

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Re: hypochondrial primitive wants to recycle a barn
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2013, 08:07:28 AM »
Isn't the foundation of the franksolich farm an old pigsty mound ? Now that's a proper example of recycling !
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