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Offline Billiam Pitts

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DUng Heap in meltdown
« on: June 06, 2013, 06:54:24 PM »
With scandal, after scandal, after scandal. Nonsense is posting preemptive posts about Obum-bum's abuse of power in an effort to plug the dike. It's like a National Geo special on how ant colonies collapse. Let's watch...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022959738

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NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: ‘Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility’
NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: ‘Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility’

The New York Times editorial board pilloried the Obama administration on Thursday, after it was reported that the National Security Agency actively collects phone log records of millions of Americans under a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) order.

"The administration has now lost all credibility," the Times' editors write. "Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the 9/11 attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers."

They added: "We are not questioning the legality under the Patriot Act of the court order disclosed by The Guardian. But we strongly object to using that power in this manner. It is the very sort of thing against which Mr. Obama once railed, when he said in 2007 that the Bush administration’s surveillance policy “puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide.”

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/nyt-editorial-board-slams-obama-on-tracking-administration

Frankly, I think this hyperbole is proof that the media are trying to salvage the Republicans' repututation, and likely Bush's.

Here's how the NYT editorial ends:

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On Thursday, Representative Jim Sensenbrenner, Republican of Wisconsin, who introduced the Patriot Act in 2001, said that the National Security Agency overstepped its bounds by issuing a secret order to collect phone log records from millions of Americans. “As the author of the Patriot Act, I am extremely troubled by the F.B.I.’s interpretation of this legislation,” he said in a statement. “While I believe the Patriot Act appropriately balanced national security concerns and civil rights, I have always worried about potential abuses.” He added: “Seizing phone records of millions of innocent people is excessive and un-American.”

This stunning use of the act shows, once again, why it needs to be sharply curtailed if not repealed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/opinion/president-obamas-dragnet.html

I mean, it's not like the NYT isn't aware of Bush's actions prior to 2007.

For the Republican opportunists, Bush actually spied on people.
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So how does everyone feel about impeachment?

I mean, didn't we want Bush impeached for the same thing Obama is evidently doing now (among many other reasons, that is)? Just throwing this out there.

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I just left the Democratic party over NSA spying

I will support no party that supports the evisceration of the 4th Amendment. I won't volunteer, I won't contribute, until the rank and file of the party opposes and ends this practice, don't bother calling me

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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2013, 07:10:41 PM »
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NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: ‘Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility’
NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: ‘Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility’

The New York Times editorial board pilloried the Obama administration on Thursday, after it was reported that the National Security Agency actively collects phone log records of millions of Americans under a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) order.

Obama, you dirty crook, the F in FISA stands for foreign, not federal.

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Josh Earnest, White House Special Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy Press Secretary, read a prepared statement to the press aboard a flight regarding the Verizon/NSA news that broke last night.
There is a robust legal regime in place governing all activities conducted pursuant to the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act. That regime has been briefed to and approved by the court. And activities authorized under the Act are subject to strict controls and procedures under oversight of the Department of Justice, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the FISA Court to ensure that they comply with the Constitution and the laws of the United States, and appropriately protect privacy and civil liberties.

FISA, of course, stands for FOREIGN Intelligence Surveillance Act. Not Federal. There's a world of difference.

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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2013, 07:25:00 PM »
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57. Holder has determined that throwing cancer patients in prison for smoking pot is a priority.
 

How is he supposed to keep us safe from the terrorist cancer chemo pot smokers if he doesn't have the tools to monitor their phone calls to make sure they're not taking a break from vomiting to call someone to buy a dime bag and potentially engage in some terror terror dangerous pot buying terrror terrorism?
 


Me thinks this dude has had too much pot  :stoner:
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2013, 11:26:06 PM »
They, the DUmmies, were warned.  They were warned that Obama was a narcisstic little control freak.  They were warned that he only seemed to listen to a group of people that told him what he wants to hear.  They were warned that Obama believes that the end justifies the means in a way that President Bush never, for his faults, never did. 

Then they ignored or explained away fast & furious, benghazi, deliberate silencing of the tea party, spying on the press, and coercing the press to silence, any of which is enough to bring down the administration by itself. 

They aren't mad over this.  Not really.  They're like an abused wife, angry and hurt that once again her husband has once again left her with a black eye, but if the cops show up to haul his ass off, she'll attack the cops.  Just wait and watch, this will be another "Republican manufactured non-scandal" on DU, probably before the rooster crows.
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2013, 07:55:43 AM »
I don't know, Vagabond, you may be right.  I've got plenty of popcorn, though.  Right now I'm on observer status. 
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 08:43:03 AM »
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Frankly, I think this hyperbole is proof that the media are trying to salvage the Republicans' repututation, and likely Bush's.


Huh?!?!?


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They aren't mad over this.  Not really.  They're like an abused wife, angry and hurt that once again her husband has once again left her with a black eye, but if the cops show up to haul his ass off, she'll attack the cops.  Just wait and watch, this will be another "Republican manufactured non-scandal" on DU, probably before the rooster crows.

I think that explains them quite well.  I've read that at a couple different places. They'll never abandon their Lightbringer.  He's too chocolaty delicious for them and that's all that matters.
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2013, 09:28:12 AM »
It went into a full-on slap fest.  :catfight: :catfight:
After the NYSlimes scrubbed/modified the headline, on e was quick to point it out.
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66. Why have you misleadingly truncated the Times' quote?

The Times editorial did not say: "The administration has now lost all credibility." It said: "The administration has now lost all credibility on this point." (emphasis added) Those additional three words do provide an important limitation on the scope of the lost credibility the editorial asserts. And within that more narrow scope that the full sentence indicates, I think the editorial makes a pretty good argument. 
Stupid DUmpmonkey, that was after they scubbed it.
Here's the original...
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"The Obama administration has lost all credibility."
That's a period at the end, get it.
The "on this issue", was added several hours later to kiss DearLeaders butt.  DUmbass.  :bird:
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2013, 09:28:50 AM »
This:
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NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: ‘Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility’

Has been changed to this:
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NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: ‘Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility On This Issue’

Didn't take the NYT long to get over being beaten and come back to the abusive husband 0bama.

Tomorrow in the MSM it will all be forgotten.

Correct me if I'm wrong but this does make all of the Bill Of Rights Amendments under attack from the fascist 0bama.
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2013, 09:52:13 AM »
Quote from: Vagabond on June 06, 2013, 11:26:06 PM
They, the DUmmies, were warned.  They were warned that Obama was a narcisstic little control freak.  They were warned that he only seemed to listen to a group of people that told him what he wants to hear.  They were warned that Obama believes that the end justifies the means in a way that President Bush never, for his faults, never did. 

Then they ignored or explained away fast & furious, benghazi, deliberate silencing of the tea party, spying on the press, and coercing the press to silence, any of which is enough to bring down the administration by itself. 

They aren't mad over this.  Not really.  They're like an abused wife, angry and hurt that once again her husband has once again left her with a black eye, but if the cops show up to haul his ass off, she'll attack the cops.  Just wait and watch, this will be another "Republican manufactured non-scandal" on DU, probably before the rooster crows.

The DUmmies got what they wanted. No? They should be happy. Well, they are always angry and bitter. So go figure. Hey Primitives,
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2013, 10:49:25 AM »
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So how does everyone feel about impeachment?

I mean, didn't we want Bush impeached for the same thing Obama is evidently doing now (among many other reasons, that is)? Just throwing this out there.

I bet he is deader than a doornail at the DUmp.  :rotf:  But he is right!
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2013, 12:10:51 PM »
Quote from: Gina on June 07, 2013, 10:49:25 AM
I bet he is deader than a doornail at the DUmp.  :rotf:  But he is right!

I'm sensing that there is going to be another great purge at the DUmp. Those that have a shred of decency are going to be tombstoned.
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2013, 04:01:36 PM »
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NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: ‘Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility’
NYT Editorial Board Slams Obama On Tracking: ‘Administration Has Now Lost All Credibility’

The New York Times editorial board pilloried the Obama administration on Thursday, after it was reported that the National Security Agency actively collects phone log records of millions of Americans under a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) order.

"The administration has now lost all credibility," the Times' editors write. "Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it. That is one reason we have long argued that the Patriot Act, enacted in the heat of fear after the 9/11 attacks by members of Congress who mostly had not even read it, was reckless in its assignment of unnecessary and overbroad surveillance powers."

I noticed they didn't even raise an eyebrow when they passed the biggest POS in US history, known now as "O'bummer Could Care Less", without it being read. Hell Pelosi told us we had to pass it in order to know what was in it!

Not a ****in' peep outa the Times. Call the waaaaaaaaaaaambulance!
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2013, 05:19:04 PM »
Gang, if this woman, who is a raving moonbat, calls for what she does, the Oministration crackdown is close.

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Progressives, Democrats must stand with New York Times against Obama on NSA phone records collection

By Julie Roginsky  Published June 07, 2013FoxNews.com

We have arrived at a defining moment for the progressive movement in this nation.

The New York Times editorial board, which has generally given this president a lot of leeway throughout his career, wrote a scathing denunciation Friday of the Obama administration’s use of data mining, claiming that “the administration has now lost all credibility" on the issue of balancing civil rights with national security.

Every progressive with even a shred of moral consistency should side with the New York Times against the White House.

The events of the past month – from the Associated Press subpoena to the James Rosen search warrant to the revelation that our government has been indiscriminately collecting phone records data – have forced liberals to make a choice between complacency and outrage, between keeping silent because one of our own is in the White House and calling him out on betraying the principles for which we have fought for so long.

Consistency has never been the fiber of political discourse but it is nonetheless a vital ingredient of credibility.

The rest is here: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/06/07/progressives-must-stand-with-new-york-times-against-obama

And now they're realizing what we had said all along. :whistling:
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Re: DUng Heap in meltdown
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2013, 05:23:44 PM »
Just to spell things out for you idiot lurkers from DU.

President Bush spied on F***ing muslims to protect the people.
Democrats spy on innocent people to protect F***ing muslims.

Got it? Good.
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