Not "share our society;" they seek to rule. They demand the power to dictate morality and bring forth all law based on that morality.
Yet, they cannot even govern themselves.
They make a demand (mostly to disrupt and indict the society you have created for yourself) and when they achieve that demand they soon find it haunts them.
Moreover, it conflicts with the many other demands they have made (also to disrupt and indict your society).
Then they are stuck arguing for all things at once and achieving nothing in the process.
Behold...
pnwmom (43,353 posts)
A man disguised as a woman videotaped women using the ladies' room,
according to police.
Transgender women are not a risk to women in ladies' restrooms.
But how do we keep male predators out while allowing some people with male bodies in?
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Secret-Recording-Store-Mall-Antelope-Valley-Palmdale-Restroom-207541101.html
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Brickbat (14,517 posts)
1. This is the kind of thing that I'm willing to err on the side of inclusivity.
There will always be pervs. I would prefer the issue to be how long someone is lingering in a rest room, not how they're dressed.
HiPointDem (17,733 posts)
20. i'm not. just because a man is dressed as a woman doesn't mean he gets to come in the
women's lav. inclusivity my ass.
So much for egalitarianism.
uppityperson (74,576 posts)
23. Make all the restrooms unisex and that'd help.
HiPointDem (17,733 posts)
57. i don't want to use a bathroom with men, and that's what you're suggesting.
uppityperson (74,576 posts)
81. Do you have a 2 bathroom house, in case a family member invites a male home?
uppityperson (74,576 posts)
2. ANYONE of ANY gender doing this in ANY restroom for ANY gender is wrong.
Problem is what was done. Not who was doing it but that they were doing it.
HiPointDem (17,733 posts)
22. problem is, he was doing it surreptitiously. the only reason he was found out is that someone
reported that a MAN dressed as a woman was in the women's can.
no, putting on women's clothes doesn't mean you're a woman.
uppityperson (74,576 posts)
26. And a woman doing this would be ok to you. Oh. No, problem is that it was done. Period. And wtf?
Transgender does not mean "putting on women's clothes".
Nye Bevan (11,128 posts)
3. I would say anyone with a penis should use the men's room.
Regardless of clothing, "sexual identity" and so forth.
Whisp (17,334 posts)
21. I don't agree.
If the person wears women's clothes and feels like she is a woman then it doesn't matter what she has in her underwear. She should be able to go to the Women's washroom. Going to the Men's is just looking to get beat on.
It must be so difficult, I can't imagine how difficult. Us 'regular' people take so much for granted.
I have a headache.
uppityperson (74,576 posts)
28. Good lord. So should being lesbian also bar you since you "the gays"will be checking you out?
but wtf
Only heterosexual males ogle women.
Everyone else is in full sexual control...especially the people who say they can't help being gay.
It's a proven fact on DU.
HiPointDem (17,733 posts)
24. i do. i don't care what she 'feels like'. putting on a dress doesn't make you a woman.
marshall (6,059 posts)
44. That's not the currently accepted opinion
We are evolving in our view toward gender.
I have a headache.
Humanist_Activist (1,909 posts)
68. Being transgender is far more than "just putting on a dress"...
I would recommend you educate yourself.
It should be noted that Humanist Activist has Charles Darwin for an avatar.
What does natural selection say about homosexuality?
el_bryanto (3,789 posts)
51. This is a simplistic response to the complicated issue of gender identity
It reflects the view of someone who has not in any way seriously grappled with this issue, what it means, and what it feels like. Now this is a complicated question, and I can quite understand why the feelings of a woman confronted with a transgender male to female who still looks masculine might be upset. I think you can have some sympathy for that person, while also having sympathy for the transgendered female.
But, either way, this issue deserves more serious thought than this, in my opinion.
Bryant
Only Proglodytes can find X's and Y's to be a complicated issue.
idwiyo (2,252 posts)
56. What does make a woman a woman?
A Little Weird (214 posts)
101. Two X chromosomes?
idwiyo (2,252 posts)
103. I suggest to read a little bit about genetic disorders and intersex. That might spare you from
making a fool of yourself next time.
And it goes on like this.
The lesson here: Proglodytes aren't even capable of governing a public shitter let alone an entire society.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022951675
