Boy Scouts vote to allow gay members

[JohnnyReb]

I DIDN'T LEAVE SCOUTING, SCOUTING LEFT ME.

Well yesterday at 5:00 the results were made known, and by a 61% [chuckelhead] vote the change was finished, to take effect Jan. 1, 2014.  On a personal note, by 5:10 PM I received confirmation and by 5:20 PM my three calls of resignation were complete, and my formal letter started and since sent.

Our troop has their year planned thru 12/31/13 backpacking, whitewater, summer camp, etc. I am guessing that it will run out the rest of this year and then who knows what will happen.

ETA: Thanks for your years of service to the Scouts.

 

[JohnnyReb]

Disgusting and disheartening, but I refuse to believe that the faggots have completely taken over my country.

So far, that is. 

Oh but they are working on it. Read about Hitler and the gay Nazis.....they started by taking over youth organizations and turning them queer.

http://gaynazis.com/

[blitzkrieg_17]

Well BSA, all the good memories I had of being a member of your organization are now shot to Hell. Thanks a whole ****ing lot.

[blitzkrieg_17]

Devastating.  I have two Eagle Scouts. The Church where we raised our family in sponsored the Troop. It's 50 years old and we as a Board have decided to eliminate the Troop rather than compromise our religious beliefs(Roman Catholic). 123  Cub scouts and Boy Scouts are deciding if they want to transfer to different troops. Yet, we were called Homophobic as late as last as evening when an uninvited gay parent interrupted our meeting dissolving the troop when he brought his son in for an application to join the Troop. When advised that we were dissolving the Troop, he literally threw a hissy fit stating that he would sue us for dissolving the Troop. The example of rude and obscene language to Board members only ceased when one of the Board Members, a police officer, politely asked him to leave and escorted him from the building.

It got worse.

The "gentleman" in question then proceeded to key every car in the lot. We know this because the conference room has a large window view of the parking lot. When the police officer got out to the lot and stood behind the guy's car so he could not leave, the guy called the cops saying a hate crime was in progress. Imagine the guys face when the responding cops knew the cop and arrested the "gentleman" for assault on a police officer and destruction  of private property.

.....and the son saw everything.

Sad day to be a Christian in the United States

A righteous bust, and I hope they make him pay. H5, though this is bad news.

[CG6468]

Rusty was the member about whom I referenced. I knew he respond to this.

[Zathras]

Here's an interesting article...they took a poll of the BSA adult members and 61% of the membership do not want gay scouts to be allowed to join, exactly opposite of the leadership counsel's vote....

Boy Scouts Survey Finds 61% Want To Keep Homosexuals Out

On May 23, Boy Scouts of America (“BSA”) will vote on whether to change at the national level its long-standing policy prohibiting openly homosexual scout members or leaders. The mainstream media and those who are invested in political correctness have placed it under enormous pressure to make these changes. The conundrum facing the BSA, though, is that a significant majority of those people who already belong disagree with the proposed changes.

According to the BSA’s comprehensive survey, which yielded information from 200,000 adult members, 61% of them do not want the policy changed, while only 34% do. CNSNews.com, with which the BSA shared the results, provides a breakdown of the responses, showing that this attitude is consistent throughout the BSA adult demographic:

• 50 percent of Cub Scout parents support the current policy; 45 percent of Cub Scout parents oppose it.

• 61 percent of Boy Scout parents support the current policy.

• 62 percent of unit leaders support the current policy.

• 64 percent of council and district volunteers support the current policy.

• 72 percent of chartered organizations support the current policy.

http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/05/14361-boy-scouts-survey-finds-61-want-to-keep-homosexuals-out/

[rustybayonet]

Here's an interesting article...they took a poll of the BSA adult members and 61% of the membership do not want gay scouts to be allowed to join, exactly opposite of the leadership counsel's vote....

http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/05/14361-boy-scouts-survey-finds-61-want-to-keep-homosexuals-out/

 

Interesting.... here in this local council, published figures show 78.5% did not want the change.

Article in todays paper [liberal slant, big surprise in a conservative state] they interviewed about 8 people one from local council hdqs. and one Eagle scout from a troop in my old district [ both viewed change as positive {?}] I know the person from headquarters .. think the newspaper 'took' liberties? We are in the northern center of the state and the largest council - all the others interviews were around the state, Mobil etc. and all but two were a positive slant for change.

Some other interesting figures that were released prior to the vote... headquarters is expecting between 100,000 - 400,000  boys nationally to leave scouting plus adults - total number nationally for scouts 2.7 million, plus adults.

Since the vote I know of at least 14 adults who have left, with almost that many stating they are going to finish their committment to the boys and then leave at the end of the year.  Out of 9 commissioners I served with 4 have left and two more say by the end of the year, plus the guy that is filling in for me for Eagle and Advancement, will be gone by the end of the year if not before.  It is getting interesting to say the least.

If anyone can explain what the chuckleheads were thinking please let me know.  Plus we all know that the new incoming adults will tell the truth about whether they are gay or not....

[Conservative Libertarian]

 

Interesting.... here in this local council, published figures show 78.5% did not want the change.

Article in todays paper [liberal slant, big surprise in a conservative state] they interviewed about 8 people one from local council hdqs. and one Eagle scout from a troop in my old district [ both viewed change as positive {?}] I know the person from headquarters .. think the newspaper 'took' liberties? We are in the northern center of the state and the largest council - all the others interviews were around the state, Mobil etc. and all but two were a positive slant for change.

Some other interesting figures that were released prior to the vote... headquarters is expecting between 100,000 - 400,000  boys nationally to leave scouting plus adults - total number nationally for scouts 2.7 million, plus adults.

Since the vote I know ofat least 14 adults who have left, with almost that many stating they are goig to finih their committment to the boys and then leave at the end of the year.  Out of 9 commissioners I served with 4 have left and two more say by the end of the year, plus the guy that is filling in for me for Eagle and Advancement, will be gone by the end of the year if not before.  It is getting interesting to say the least.

I don't know how this is going to play out with our local troop(s). This is a very Conservative area. I suspect that the Scoutmaster will trying to keep it going as long as he can. There are 7 boys in the troop and several are already mapping out their path to Eagle Scout (including my son). District level campouts will probably be participated in less and less. I need to sit down and talk with the Scoutmaster. He has already stated that he has no intention of being involved in scouts after his sons are done--even at the district level.

What I really don't understand is that this vote is about allowing homosexual children to join. Children don't know that they are homos! So, other than that overall bad message, this particular vote doesn't seem so bad at that level. However, you know the next move will be to allow homo scoutmasters which is completely UNACCEPTABLE.

[vesta111]

I don't know how this is going to play out with our local troop(s). This is a very Conservative area. I suspect that the Scoutmaster will trying to keep it going as long as he can. There are 7 boys in the troop and several are already mapping out their path to Eagle Scout (including my son). District level campouts will probably be participated in less and less. I need to sit down and talk with the Scoutmaster. He has already stated that he has no intention of being involved in scouts after his sons are done--even at the district level.

What I really don't understand is that this vote is about allowing homosexual children to join. Children don't know that they are homos! So, other than that overall bad message, this particular vote doesn't seem so bad at that level. However, you know the next move will be to allow homo scoutmasters which is completely UNACCEPTABLE.

I am wondering when the first law suit will begin.    A gay Scout that joins at a young age at 18 applies to become a leader and is denied a position as a leader will call it discrimination.    It is OK to belong to the Scouts if one is gay but one cannot lead as a gay adult.    Is this not the major reason for Scouting, to learn to be LEADERS ?

There is the open door for gay leaders. So now the Scouts will become a gay hang out for the kids as few straight parents want their sons to be exposed to a gay lifestyle at 8 or 9 years old.

My son was in Scouting and loved it until the leader a married man with pregnant wife was shot by a gay basher and thrown off a balcony 6 stories to the ground naked.    When we returned from the funeral my son took off his uniform and never wore it again.

[blitzkrieg_17]

The BSA FB page has become a sewer pipe and I have un-liked the page after 3 1/2 years.

[JohnnyReb]

The BSA FB page has become a sewer pipe and I have un-liked the page after 3 1/2 years.

One look at their patch and you just know this group will see an increase in membership......

http://www.facebook.com/SenecaWaterwaysCouncilBSA

[txradioguy]

The New Scouts Oath:

[Eupher]

The New Scouts Oath:

Why LOOK! He's got jug-ears just like PRESIDENT JUG-EARS!

Clearly, the Scout "leadership" calculated that they would lose some members/charters. And it's also clear that they figured that with the media's relentless selling that "being gay really is a normal thing and it's okay" that, in time at least, membership would climb back to where it was.

Doubtful, because I think that in the vacuum that this decision leaves, an alternative to BSA will arise. And that's just what is needed here -- an option.

If you want your boys to be around faggotry, the BSA is for you. The alternative is for parents and adult leaders who still adhere to a moral code that, while addressing sexuality in a suitable way (I believe the Scout merit badge that this addresses is called "Family Life"), still adopts the idea that traditional relationships are traditional for a reason.

For 100 years, there really hasn't been any sort of equivalent organization to BSA. Not in the same vein, anyway.

This could very well be the thing that the country needs. Competition.

Nevertheless, Lord Baden-Powell has got to be appalled.

[RayRaytheSBS]

Great, so now the boy scouts have bowed to pressure and have become the Obamajugend. I wonder when the motto will be changed to 'Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuerher'!   

[txradioguy]

Great, so now the boy scouts have bowed to pressure and have become the Obamajugend. I wonder when the motto will be changed to 'Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuerher'!   

The Obama Youth Corps perhaps?

[Gina]

Our church is going to hold a meeting about whether or not they are going to sponsor the Boy Scouts now.  I am pissed.  Why hurt the children?

I will leave my church if they do this.  Hubby and I will sponsor the Boy Scouts if they do bolt. 


I mean why does such a low percentage of people have to **** up everything? It's always the low percenters. 

[txradioguy]

I mean why does such a low percentage of people have to **** up everything? It's always the low percenters. 

Liberal tryanny.  They can't win or convince the majority of people to support them by just eqpousing their ideas...so they do it by brute force.

[Conservative Libertarian]

Our church is going to hold a meeting about whether or not they are going to sponsor the Boy Scouts now.  I am pissed.  Why hurt the children?

I will leave my church if they do this.  Hubby and I will sponsor the Boy Scouts if they do bolt. 


I mean why does such a low percentage of people have to **** up everything? It's always the low percenters. 

I haven't heard about the position of the church that sponsors my son's troop. I guess that we will see how this plays out.

[JohnnyReb]

The leaders and senior scouts are meeting tomorrow night to discuss what they're going to do......the church will support their decision.

[FlaGator]

I am of two minds about this development. One tells me that it is wrong to encourage and validate someone's sinful behavior. On the other hand this might be a good opportunity for BSA leaders and the church to reach out in love to those with a belief that their personal sin is OK and attempt to convince them otherwise. I ask myself how Jesus would handle this situation and I believe he would sit down with these children and explain to them that what they are doing is wrong and that they should repent of their sinful behavior and accept Him as their savior. Let them choose if they want to stay and obey.

I don't believe that this is what the BSA intends to do, but it would be a mistake to deny what God has deemed to be true.

You have wearied the Lord with your words. But you say, “How have we wearied him?” By saying, “Everyone who does evil is good in the sight of the Lord, and he delights in them.”

  Malachi 2:17a

[Big Dog]

I am of two minds about this development. One tells me that it is wrong to encourage and validate someone's sinful behavior. On the other hand this might be a good opportunity for BSA leaders and the church to reach out in love to those with a belief that their personal sin is OK and attempt to convince them otherwise. I ask myself how Jesus would handle this situation and I believe he would sit down with these children and explain to them that what they are doing is wrong and that they should repent of their sinful behavior and accept Him as their savior. Let them choose if they want to stay and obey.

I don't believe that this is what the BSA intends to do, but it would be a mistake to deny what God has deemed to be true.
  Malachi 2:17a

What would Jesus do? I can't answer that, but I have a pretty good idea of what he wouldn't do.

He wouldn't place a 12 year old boy in a pup tent with a 16 year old homosexual, unsupervised.

[JohnnyReb]

What would Jesus do? I can't answer that, but I have a pretty good idea of what he wouldn't do.

He wouldn't place a 12 year old boy in a pup tent with a 16 year old homosexual, unsupervised.

But when said queer isn't provided a tent mate, then I see lawsuits by momma for discrimination.

[wasp69]

Our church is going to hold a meeting about whether or not they are going to sponsor the Boy Scouts now.  I am pissed.  Why hurt the children?

I will leave my church if they do this.  Hubby and I will sponsor the Boy Scouts if they do bolt. 


I mean why does such a low percentage of people have to **** up everything? It's always the low percenters. 

Why would you leave the church if they vote to adhere to biblical principles and not bow to the faggot mafia?

[FlaGator]

What would Jesus do? I can't answer that, but I have a pretty good idea of what he wouldn't do.

He wouldn't place a 12 year old boy in a pup tent with a 16 year old homosexual, unsupervised.

You make a valid point to which I have no answer.

I have to ask, however, what does it say about the Church if it cuts off support to the BSA and abandons the rest of the children into the hands of the predators you and I suspect will invade the Boy Scouts? Their parents may think that they are doing the right thing by allowing their boys to remain members of the Scouts but has abortion teaches us, parents or potential parents don't always do what is right by their offspring.

[I_B_Perky]

Perky was a Scout. I am against this. My opinion is if you have to come out as openly gay, then you are not Scout material.  Notice I said openly gay. I really have no problem with gays per se... just keep it to yourself and don't flaunt it.

Besides... what teenager is going to try to join a troop and stating that they are gay? Maybe in mexifornia or San Fran... but for the rest of the country? I just do not see it.

Still... I just do not like it. Not at all.