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Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« on: May 23, 2013, 04:38:54 PM »
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Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s

When Gregory Glinsey was fatally shot while buying ice for his mother’s 80th birthday party, the emotional toll on his family was incalculable. The immediate price to the public was $800 for his autopsy.

His slaying and 505 others in Chicago last year scarred it with a rising homicide rate as most cities saw declines. Another 2,000 non-fatal shootings in Chicago added costs measured in shuttered businesses, lost wages, disability checks and depopulation. In Glinsey’s case, the price of his random killing mounted before his mother knew her 54-year-old son wouldn’t return from a convenience store in the South Shore neighborhood.

More than three dozen police swarmed the scene of the Feb. 19, 2012, shooting, which also killed a 19-year-old and injured five other teenagers. After $1,000 ambulance rides to hospitals for each survivor, the combined trauma-care bill would, on average, top $250,000. Gunfire outside Budget Food & Liquors cost its owner a tenant and $1,000 in monthly rent: A tax preparer next door bolted after a bullet from another shooting ripped past a secretary’s head.

“Violence hurts the economy, and sooner or later it permeates everything,” said Teyonda Wertz, head of South Shore’s chamber of commerce. “Unless we change our crime situation, it’ll kill us.”

All told, shootings cost Chicago $2.5 billion a year, or about $2,500 per household, according to Jens Ludwig, director of the University of Chicago Crime Lab. Many of those costs are intangibles, Ludwig said, like keeping people from going outside or letting their children walk to school. Reducing even a fraction of the carnage, though, would free up more money than the city expects to save each year from the closing of 49 elementary schools approved yesterday by the school board.

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1. I thought

Chicago and NY had some of the toughest gun laws in the country.

Good point, but you have a low post count and must get bashed! (DU mode)

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2. And???

It's not hard for a criminal to get a gun.

It would be if the entire nation had strict gun control laws.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do want to take away your guns.

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3. Local laws don't work on contraband.

You obviously can't inspect every car, truck, train, plane, boat, and motorcycle entering the city. Gun laws need to be national, which would help but still not completely stop smuggling.

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4. oh

okay I see
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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 05:18:12 PM »
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TheFutureWillCome (17 posts) 1. I thought

Chicago and NY had some of the toughest gun laws in the country.





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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 05:51:16 PM »
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7. Good lord.

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Yo, Frank! Another noob needs some coaching.

See, you can't start tossing wingnut talking points right out of the box. Build up slowly. Get a couple of K of posts in the Lounge or someplace benign. Then, slowly build up some cred in GD. Then, once you start getting the feel for the forum, drop a few bombs here and there and attack unpopular DUers ('cause no one will complain).

Just take it easy, okay?

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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2013, 06:11:29 PM »
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7. Good lord.

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Yo, Frank! Another noob needs some coaching.

See, you can't start tossing wingnut talking points right out of the box. Build up slowly. Get a couple of K of posts in the Lounge or someplace benign. Then, slowly build up some cred in GD. Then, once you start getting the feel for the forum, drop a few bombs here and there and attack unpopular DUers ('cause no one will complain).

Just take it easy, okay?

EDIT: This would be a good time to get all huffy at me and alert my post.

Son, I've got accounts at the DUmp older than yours, we're masters at this shit.
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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2013, 06:13:47 PM »
"When Gregory Glinsey was fatally shot while buying ice for his mother’s 80th birthday party, the emotional toll on his family was incalculable. The immediate price to the public was $800 for his autopsy."

OK, why do they charge the taxpayers $800 for an autopsy for a guy that was shot to death? Isn't the purpose of an autopsy to pinpoint cause of death? Isn't it pretty obvious what the cause of death was? What, does the M.E. look at bullet riddled body and say "Yep, cause of death: dude was shot. Where's my money?"
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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2013, 06:21:14 PM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on May 23, 2013, 05:18:12 PM




Please, .... try.   

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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2013, 06:24:16 PM »
Quote from: kraven on May 23, 2013, 06:13:47 PM
"When Gregory Glinsey was fatally shot while buying ice for his mother’s 80th birthday party, the emotional toll on his family was incalculable. The immediate price to the public was $800 for his autopsy."

OK, why do they charge the taxpayers $800 for an autopsy for a guy that was shot to death? Isn't the purpose of an autopsy to pinpoint cause of death? Isn't it pretty obvious what the cause of death was? What, does the M.E. look at bullet riddled body and say "Yep, cause of death: dude was shot. Where's my money?"

Because it doesn't work that way. A complete autopsy is performed everytime to see if there were any other factors involved.
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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 07:48:21 PM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on May 23, 2013, 05:18:12 PM




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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2013, 09:31:46 AM »
What a sane headline would read:

Chicago minority gangs cost $2.5 billion.

Wouldn't it be wiser to put $1 billion in to stopping gangs and have $1.5 billion saved instead of going after perfectly legal rights we have? Of course I am not a mentally ill democrat (BIRM) so we won't see that happen.
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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
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Re: Chicago Killings Cost $2.5 Billion as Murders Top N.Y.’s
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 10:13:31 PM »
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Well, of course you know that's total bullshit.

It's Chicago, so 95% of that $2.5 billion went to corruption, and would have gone to corruption if there had been zero shootings.

If you have to give $2.5 billion to corrupt Chicago 0bamaites, putting gangbangers in the ground is as good a reason as any.
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