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Renew Deal (56,907 posts)  Mon May 6, 2013, 10:26 AM

Sucking Your Child’s Pacifier Clean May Have Benefits
For years, health officials have told parents not to share utensils with their babies or clean their pacifiers by putting them in their mouths, arguing that the practice spreads harmful germs between parent and child. But new research may turn that thinking on its head.

In a study published Monday in the journal Pediatrics, scientists report that infants whose parents sucked on their pacifiers to clean them developed fewer allergies than children whose parents typically rinsed or boiled them. They also had lower rates of eczema, fewer signs of asthma and smaller amounts of a type of white blood cell that rises in response to allergies and other disorders.

The findings add to growing evidence that some degree of exposure to germs at an early age benefits children, and that microbial deprivation might backfire, preventing the immune system from developing a tolerance to trivial threats.

The study, carried out in Sweden, could not prove that the pacifiers laden with parents’ saliva were the direct cause of the reduced allergies. The practice may be a marker for parents who are generally more relaxed about shielding their children from dirt and germs, said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious diseases expert at Vanderbilt University who was not involved in the research.
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Gross

I agree.  Gross.

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Star Member Warpy (69,063 posts)   Mon May 6, 2013, 03:37 PM
2. It's also a great way to pass along oral herpes

The kid won't have allergies but it'll get cold sores.

Personally, I think a rinse and a wipe is all you need. Most pathogens are destroyed by gut bacteria and the ones that aren't help to build the kid's immune system. Unless the parent is a helicopter nutcase, the kid will be out there eating dirt anyway.

What Mom's saliva does do is provide some antibodies. That's why when we get superficial cuts on our hands, our first impulse is to lick it. It actually works, especially against some varieties of strep.

My own guess is that pacifier boilers are the people who are going nuts with antibacterial sprays and soaps and generally keeping things just a little bit too clean. We were designed to survive in filth. Keeping things antiseptic around kids is counterproductive.

This reply is self-explanatory, and needs no help.  Cold sores?  Rinse-and-wipe?  Licking impulses? Check.  





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Sweden. Not surprised. Especially since they followed Switzerland and decriminalized incest there a couple years back. 

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This was a very small campfire.

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I agree.  Gross.

This reply is self-explanatory, and needs no help.  Cold sores?  Rinse-and-wipe?  Licking impulses? Check.  

I have to agree that in my time the pacifiers dropped on the floor were put into mothers mouth before the babys.   Why, I had no idea, but it was done all the time and I followed suite.    None of my kids have any allergerys and as adults seem healthy.

At one time in Nahm there was a large blackmarket for baby bottles and powerdered formula.   Those wealthy enough to buy this had babys that became ill, the formular had to be mixed with water that was contamated.    The poor breast fed their babys and they stayed healthy.

Cold sores are a form of Herpies, they can navigate to become some very bad things. 

Licking impulse is in all mamals including humams, why else would children lick the paint full of lead off cribs and walls ???




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Sweden. Not surprised. Especially since they followed Switzerland and decriminalized incest there a couple years back. 
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That's a pretty long stretch.  I have my own merely-layman's opinion that the explosion in allergic, immune, and developmental problems in our lifetimes is linked to the simultaneous explosion in taking cleanliness to OCD levels.
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That's a pretty long stretch.  I have my own merely-layman's opinion that the explosion in allergic, immune, and developmental problems in our lifetimes is linked to the simultaneous explosion in taking cleanliness to OCD levels.

I agree totally with the above statement - However, in the case of adults sucking on their babies pacifiers... In sufficient numbers to complete a study ?

Yuck.

I'm inclined to think that holding and feeding a baby normally ( without bathing in a fountain of Purell and antibacterial wipes first ) would be enough to introduce a healthy level of bacteria to help boost a child's immune system.

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Eat more boogers.   :-)

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However, in the case of adults sucking on their babies pacifiers... In sufficient numbers to complete a study ?

Well, yeah...that's just weird.
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Just dip it in some whisky or gin - the alcohol will kill any nasty bugs.

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Just dip it in some whisky or gin - the alcohol will kill any nasty bugs.

That sounds like a great idea!

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I was lucky to have a pediatrician for my son who did not hand out antibiotics like candy. I also breast fed him for the first couple of months. I fully believe the combination of the two is why my son rarely got sick as an child.

That being said, I wasn't too big on giving him a pacifier.
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That sounds like a great idea!

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Alas in his case the alcohol took far too damned long in its effects.