Why are there so many apologists on this board...

[Ralph Wiggum]

villager (18,924 posts)

Why are there so many apologists on this board for the civil liberties overreaches of this...
 
...administration?

Disgusting and appalling. The kind of groupthink for the other side that used to be justifiably noted, parodied, and made fun of on this board.

Until many posters on this board realized -- Pogo-like -- that they have seen the political toadying, and it was them.

A DUmmy actually gets it, and does get some agreement.  But the naysayers and 0bama apologists will have no part:

on point (982 posts)

4. Defending party, not principle...

morningfog (4,068 posts)

5. Too many start with the question,

How is this good or bad for Obama/dems instead of asking whether it is right or wrong. It is sad to see people put party first and party only.

still_one (31,055 posts)
 
6. Perhaps they want to make sure they know the facts. Just because the media says its so, doesn't

mean it is

That is NOT an excuse, one is innocent until proven guilty

upaloopa (2,020 posts)

8. I don't think all of the story is out there

Why do so many accept the Faux News version of all this?

Fire Walk With Me (36,955 posts)

13. Blind faith, blind allegiance are exactly what the powers that be want most in a people.

"Just following orders." "You are either with us or with the terrorists."

Some may imagine that toe'ing the party line, no matter how far it has been drawn away from party values or even American, Constitutional values, is important to party success in the face of the malevolent "other". Which is a nice trick in and of itself, innit.

And the bankers and plutonomists behind both parties sit there and laugh as we are divided and conquered, never uniting against the real problem. Pay no attention to the dollars behind the curtain.

Unity IS important, populist uprising the answer. Unite behind and demand FDR values. That would swing things in a nice direction.

Hell Hath No Fury (14,244 posts)
 
14. It's O, it's a Dem --

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it's not really that big a deal -- the usual excuses when this WH poops out something that stinks. 

The current thing I am primarily po'd about is the spying on the AP. Will wait for more info on the IRS fiasco before coming to a conclusion. And Benghazi is a non issue for me.

[Flufferlie]

Hell Hath No Fury (14,244 posts)
 
14. It's O, it's a Dem --

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it's not really that big a deal -- the usual excuses when this WH poops out something that stinks. 

The current thing I am primarily po'd about is the spying on the AP. Will wait for more info on the IRS fiasco before coming to a conclusion. And Benghazi is a non issue for me.

I don't know why I would be surprised! You dems are constantly excusing murder!
Had it been President Bush who wanted drone strikes on American citizens, you would have been screaming.
You defend murder through abortion.
And you leave an Ambassador to the United States of America to be assassinated, and basically taken behind enemy lines by allowing him to be put in a terrorist run hospital. How do you defend this?
Are you that blind? Do you love Obama that much?!
If this was a republican president I would be screaming for impeachment! I love my country more than I do my party.

[dandi]

villager (18,924 posts)

Why are there so many apologists on this board for the civil liberties overreaches of this...
 
...administration?

Disgusting and appalling. The kind of groupthink for the other side that used to be justifiably noted, parodied, and made fun of on this board.

Now, you know this asshole DUmmy has been at DU long enough to know that groupthink is the rule rather than the exception there. Hell, the place was built as an echo chamber by design. If MIRT or the admins don't get you for stepping outside the box, the self-appointed hall monitors will either ignore you or hound you with insinuations about being a closeted rightwinger until you either give up and leave in disgust or convince the admins to run you off.

And every time one of the little fascists over there shows their true colors, which is often, someone pipes up with "let's not go there, that's what the other side does". Well how many times do you have to encounter those situations before you realize you're side isn't "acting like" anyone, they're being their true original selves? Stop trying to mitigate things by claiming your cohorts are acting like assholes and realize that they are assholes, already.

Geez.

 

[Rebel]

villager (18,924 posts)

The kind of groupthink for the other side

No it's not, fool. It's ALL on your side. Here. Let's try an experiment:

"Bush sucked BALLS in his second term!" ---Rebel

[Delmar]

Response to timdog44 (Reply #95)Tue May 14, 2013, 07:31 PM
MetasticTwine (33 posts)
98. +1

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Some on this forum hate PBO as much as the wingnuts hate him.

Unpossible.

[txradioguy]

upaloopa (2,020 posts)

8. I don't think all of the story is out there

Why do so many accept the Faux News version of all this?

I know this might be difficult for you to understand...but Fox News was simply reading from the story that AP reported on about what was happening to their own organization.

[txradioguy]

Unpossible.

That's a side swipe at the still bitter Hillary supporters and the internal war that ensued prior to the 2008 election.

[thundley4]

upaloopa (2,020 posts)

8. I don't think all of the story is out there

Why do so many accept the Faux News version of all this?

Trayvon Martin , Patron Saint of Skittles and Tea.  Enough said.

[Big Dog]

No it's not, fool. It's ALL on your side. Here. Let's try an experiment:

"Bush sucked BALLS in his second term!" ---Rebel

Agreed.

Oh, shit, I fell into the mole trap!