Paul Ryan throws a rock into the hog pen. Squealing ensues.

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Segami (5,680 posts)

PAUL 'Ayn Rand' RYAN: Progressivism Is ‘Arrogant And Condescending’

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) blasted progressive principles as "arrogant and condescending" Wednesday night in a speech outlining his vision on how to sell modern-day conservatism to voters. “Progressivism is well-intentioned but it is also — in my humble opinion — arrogant and condescending,” Ryan said at the American Enterprise Institute, according to a transcript. “Instead of helping people make their own decisions, it makes those decisions for them. It makes Washington the center of power and politicians the center of attention.”
 


Ryan laced his blistering critique with caveats, saying progressives were not evil, but merely misguided in pursuit of the shared goal of American exceptionalism. He also acknowledged the appeal of the liberal message and the success Democrats have had in peddling their vision to voters. “This vision proved compelling,” Ryan said. “It drew thousands of people into government … they seized the moral high ground. They said they were the heirs of the Founders, when in reality, they were the replacements. They said they were for the people. And their opponents? They were for the rich. They were selfish.”
 


“Yet the Left keeps winning elections,” Ryan continued. “Why? Well, you can see the appeal. In uncertain times, people look for security. Progressives seem to have an answer … the progressive state offers a sense of security. But it’s a false sense of security because government can’t keep all its promises.”
 


Republicans have focused recently on crafting a more appealing political message, most notably in relation to minority voters. Some in the GOP have also acknowledged the need to soften the party’s economic message, arguing that it’s easier for President Obama and Democrats to sell a message about government benefits than it is for Republicans to sell a vision of personal responsibility.

marmar (60,568 posts)

1. Orwellian projection.

treestar (40,211 posts)

2. Total projection

They are the ones who want to make decisions that other people have to follow.

Segami (5,680 posts)

3. I agree with Ryan...

Republicans are ‘Arrogant And Condescending’....and may I add ' Hypocritical-Hate-Motivated-Liars '.

Regurgitation is asking for it...

Recursion (25,340 posts)

5. Stop. Breathe. If we can't acknowledge that a lot of the country sees us exactly that way...

... we're never going to overcome that problem.

el_bryanto (3,649 posts)

8. Do you think Liberals and Dems are Arrogant and Condescending? nt

Recursion (25,340 posts)

10. Some certainly are, but that's not what matters

If you can't see

1. That a lot of people do see us that way
2. Why they see us that way
3. That it doesn't matter that they're wrong

then there's no way past that.

Fumesucker (31,429 posts)

11. Most of them won't change their opinion unless you agree with them completely

And quite possibly not even then.

They say men and dinosaurs walked the Earth together (and I'm not talking birds here), if you disagree and cite scientific data to make your point then they think you are being condescending and arrogant. And on and on and on for subject after subject after subject.
 
There is simply no way to win with a lot of these people.

Just like the Republican idea of "bipartisanship" is the Democrats do everything they want exactly.

Let me know when I can opt-out of Obamacare and SS.

RedstDem (796 posts)

6. sounds strange hearing that from the guy

that wants to make women's reproductive decisions for them, among a myriad of other choices they would make for us.
 obviously, we the people that tell them to shit in their hats, are the problem.

Calling a prohibition of elective abortion a removal of decision rights is like calling Abolition the removal of employer rights.

HughBeaumont (20,370 posts)

7. Uh, Paul? Your party's "vision" DESERVES to be shat on.

If life doesn't get fairer really *******ed fast, then your handler's bread and butter . . . the labor who keeps YOU in business and BUYS THEIR products and services . . . aren't going to have much of one.
 
Sticking with this "government reliance" meme is a cop-out bag of crap that absolves the corporation and the very wealthy men who run it of their wrongdoing and bottlenecking of the American worker's progress and their planned crash of our economy, all based on some MYTH that the current 1%er-friendly Administration represents some huge bottleneck to their ubiquitous domination.
 
Also, idiot, "The Left" didn't win ANY election. Moderate centrists did. Paul, your party is so far right that the left-of-centers look like Commies to you.

phleshdef (8,270 posts)

9. When addressing his ideology, we have every right to be arrogant and condescending.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022824142

[Gina]

 

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I'd say Ryan hit 10 of 10 on that one.

[Freeper]

I'd say Ryan hit 10 of 10 on that one.

9 out of 10 he said progressives aren't evil, they really are evil.

[Undies]

9 out of 10 he said progressives aren't evil, they really are evil.

My exact thought when reading it.  I throw up a bit in my mouth when someone candy-coats the truth about evil liberals with some sort of faint lie/praise or equalizing comparisons.   

[hillneck]

Fumesucker (31,429 posts)

11. Most of them won't change their opinion unless you agree with them completely

I find this pretty funny coming from a DUmmie.  Even within their echo chamber, if any of the primitives get out of line they are thumped in the forehead. 

[I_B_Perky]

Recursion (25,340 posts)

10. Some certainly are, but that's not what matters

If you can't see

1. That a lot of people do see us that way cause it's true
2. Why they see us that way cause it's true
3. That it doesn't matter that they're wrong no they aren't

then there's no way past that. the truth is a pesky thing

One question dummie... how many people on DU are on welfare and how many people on CC are on welfare?

Answer me that and then maybe we can have a short discussion... and it will be really short because I already know the answer.