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primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« on: June 12, 2008, 10:03:36 AM »
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Oh my.

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BlueJazz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:08 AM
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One of the Parents of the "Boy Scout" tragedy said this morning...
   
...(on TV)

"We can thank God in his Mercy that more childen were not Killed" (Her Son Lived)

Agggghhh!

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NC_Nurse  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:12 AM
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1. Too bad he didn't care about the OTHER kids....

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BlueJazz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:16 AM
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3. Exactly...That's why I always Cringe when people make statements like that.
   
I think...Yeah..I'll bet that helps the Parents of the "Unworthy" children.

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PassingFair  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:59 AM
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23. At least I can sleep soundly...knowing that none of my precious atheist children ...
   
were harmed.

Since they're not allowed to BE Boy Scouts.

The lord works in mysterious ways.....

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gratuitous  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:14 AM
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2. Considering what just happened
   
I'd have trouble forming coherent words, let alone a full sentence for some jabbering yahoo with a microphone and a camera. I'm not inclined to be too hard on her.

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Dhalgren  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:18 AM
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6. I have often wonder why people speak to reporters like this. I wouldn't. I would say, "Sorry, I have nothing to say." What motivates people to speak on the record, on the air, in circumstances like this? It isn't just the reporter who is the "yahoo"...

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Echo In Light  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:33 AM
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14. I live in this area, and like so many everywhere who are having their lives upturned...
   
I'd have to agree with you ... as much as I do share in the OP's sentiment. There are a lot of very small town people here, and like it or not, they have their views/beliefs.

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TechBear_Seattle  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:17 AM
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4. The implication being...
   
That God, in His "mercy," murdered the children He did kill.

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liberati  (22 posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:32 AM
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13. Not my translation
   
No I think they meant "The tornado killed 4 children, but God was able to protect the rest." God didn't "murder" anyone. The implication is God let 4 kids die before he stepped in (which of course is not good either considering God is supposed to be all powerful).

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DainBramaged  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:34 AM
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17. If God is all powerful, why did he even let four kids die?
   
Were He and Satin playing touch football and one of them stepped on the kids?

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TechBear_Seattle  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:37 AM
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18. So God was *unable* to protect the children who died?
   
So God is not all-powerful?

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TexasObserver  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:07 AM
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25. So God is fickle and makes a split second decision on who dies and who lives?
   
God didn't kill them and God didn't save them.

God wasn't even a factor in any of it, unless you wish to attribute to him the laws of nature and physics. Things happen for a reason, and that reason is the physical laws of science. Gravity and differences in the density of hot and cold weather system killed those kids, and those who were saved were saved by good adult supervision, training, shelter, and luck.

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DS1  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:10 AM
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27. Did he have to finish his latte before leaping into action?
   
Saving some and not others, while being omnipotent AND loving everyone just does not work as an argument.

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A HERETIC I AM  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:53 AM
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21. Looks to me like he was trying to get them all and missed.

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jody  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:18 AM
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5. That's a perfect response and will be understood by most people who believe in God.

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Dhalgren  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:20 AM
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8. "Thank you Gawd for only killing 4 children." Man, this just gets worse and worse...

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patrice  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:20 AM
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9. I wonder what any one of the dead boys was thinking about "mercy" as the tornado took him.

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Carnea  (296 posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:22 AM
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10. Reminds me of news report." Woman jogging shot. Bullet miraculously misses heart by inches. I am ver fortunate says woman...." no fortunate people don't get shot at all.

That snark aside I can understand people taking solace in their faith after almost losing their child to an almost inconceivable tragedy.

Of all the dumb quotes I have heard on television this isn't in the top 1000.

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BlueJazz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:30 AM
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12. What you say is true but (Speaking for myself) I would be extremely....
   
...aware and thoughtful of the other parents who were not so fortunate...as would most people.

I dunno.  Since when are primitives thoughtful of the feelings of other people?

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gatorboy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:33 AM
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15. You can always rely on your higher moral standards when tragedy hit's the Boy Scouts.
   
Thanks for stepping up to the plate.

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BlueJazz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:47 AM
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19. Not sure what you mean but when my parents were almost killed in a Plane crash...
   
...my thoughts were (also) with the of families of those who were not so lucky.

Yeah, right.

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GreenPartyVoter  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:49 AM
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20. Isn't the typical reaction of someone whose loved one survived a tragedy usually sadness for those who perished, relief that theirs is ok, and a bit of guilt too?

I'm no fan of the interventionist God theory, either. If this person had simply expressed, without bringing up God, relief that more kids were not hurt would it have been less offensive? I don't know. Maybe grieving parents would still find it hurtful.

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Skidmore  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:59 AM
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22. I normally ignore threads like this, but not this time.
   
This time I will comment to let you know how callous the thread and some of the responses appear. First, I am not a person enthralled with organized religion and the problems it engenders in our society or in the world so I don't feel compelled to defend religious sensibilities. Second, I am a parent and a grandparent and I'll speak as such. Third, I am an Iowan and I'll speak as an Iowan living in a state that is being savaged right now.

My heart goes out to those parents who are trying to deal with great personal loss in the midst of the immense natural disaster in which we are living. I don't care what language they chose to use--thanking God, the roll of the dice, Lady Luck, or the Lord of Chaos Theorists--that it wasn't worse when it was actually pretty terrible. I just don't care what verbal expression of emotion they chose at this time.

As a parent, I understand the immense relief those parents of survivors must feel to have learned that their children are safe, even if they were injured (and 48 were injured). As an Iowan, I too am relieved that the loss of life was not greater because we have lost more lives than those four children in this season of storms and floods.

This circumstance is not the stellar moment for anyone, let alone DUers, to get on high horses about the belief systems of others or to parse comments made by people in a time of extreme stress.

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sleebarker  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:17 AM
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32. I don't know
   
When my father died, if someone else's father had a heart attack at the same time and had survived and they had said, "Oh well, at least God saved my daddy even if he did let yours die." I would have punched them in the face.

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Skidmore  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:30 AM
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33. That is not what they were saying and torturing language does not make it so.

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slackmaster  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:31 AM
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34. Well said
   
The insensitivity displayed here sometimes is stunning.

Not really.

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BlueJazz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:36 AM
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36. Sorry..I have every right to chastise people who believe in ......
   
.... supernatural beings but also (worse) have no feelings for others not so fortunate.

No matter what tragedy befalls folks, others on this planet deserve consideration for their feelings.

I accept no excuse for making other people feel like shit because I'm Grieving.

I never did it and I think it'd disgusting and typical of "Religious thought". (see post #19)

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TechBear_Seattle  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:43 AM
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37. My comments are not about the woman's relief that her son did not die
   
They are about her apparent lack of grief over the deaths that did occur, and the cognitive disjoin in her rationale as to why her son was spared while others died.

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TexasObserver  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:03 AM
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24. Because God cares about your little angel, but screw those other parents!!
   
the arrogance of the God babblers!!

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wienerdoggie  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:13 AM
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30. Can't judge people too harshly after a tragedy, and there's nothing wrong with thanking God that many were spared.

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Tierra_y_Libertad  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:14 AM
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31. The Killer God strikes again.
   
Let's see.

God sends a tornado, which being the "author of all things", he manufactured in his spare time, to kill 4 kids and injure 84 others.

Not to mention his proclivity for wiping out 100s of thousands with typhoons, earthquakes, plagues, wars, and other kindly inventions to remind us that he loves us.

So, to appease him, we thank him for his attention.

People should really consider getting a new, less egotistical, God. This one's trying to kill them.

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PeterU  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:36 AM
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35. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you?   

She's glad her son wasn't killed, and that more people weren't killed. If I were in her shoes, I'd be thinking the same thing.

Yes, it is horrible that four of them did die, but for the parents of the kids who lived, there has got to be some sort of relief.

She's human. She's relieved. And yes, as bad as it was, it could have been much worse. And yes, she believes in God and expressed it in some form. (The horror! The horror!) Get it?

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BlueJazz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 10:43 AM
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38. No..I don't "Get it" She lives her life in some Fairy land dimension...
   
,...where spirits, demons, Angels and other assorted non-living molecules determine who lives and dies. (See post #19)

Stupid primitives, so pitiful in their Hate and ignorance.
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 10:16:52 AM »
Just makes you love to hate'em, don't it?
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 10:32:06 AM »
Grow the **** up, dumbasses and stop being offended every ****ing time someone says "God."
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 10:35:25 AM »
Once again proving that when someone espouses to be loving and tolerant they are anything but.........oh and liberals lie.
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 10:36:47 AM »
I don't expect DUmmies to understand Christianity, if they did, they would be believers.


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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 10:43:51 AM »
I don't expect DUmmies to understand Christianity, if they did, they would be believers.



I'm a nonbeliever. But I don't fly into psychotic fits of rage whenever someone says "God."
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 11:11:08 AM »
I don't expect DUmmies to understand Christianity, if they did, they would be believers.

I'm a nonbeliever. But I don't fly into psychotic fits of rage whenever someone says "God."

That is because you are comfortable in your disbelief.  Liberals do not have that luxury.  They know in their hearts that everything they say they believe is false.  They have to stand on guard at all times ready to foam at the mouth and rage against the truth.  It stands to reason, since they know everything they want everyone else to believe is false,  that in the dark corners of their minds they know there is God in His Heaven, a God they must lie about and deny.   

DUmmie/liberals only rage against that which they know is true, but must not admit, because admitting to the truth weakens liberalism.   The louder and more outrageous a DUmmie/liberal gets while defending their ideology, the less they have in the way of conviction about what they say.

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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 11:20:33 AM »
I don't expect DUmmies to understand Christianity, if they did, they would be believers.

I'm a nonbeliever. But I don't fly into psychotic fits of rage whenever someone says "God."

That is because you are comfortable in your disbelief.  Liberals do not have that luxury.  They know in their hearts that everything they say they believe is false.  They have to stand on guard at all times ready to foam at the mouth and rage against the truth.  It stands to reason, since they know everything they want everyone else to believe is false,  that in the dark corners of their minds they know there is God in His Heaven, a God they must lie about and deny.   

DUmmie/liberals only rage against that which they know is true, but must not admit, because admitting to the truth weakens liberalism.   The louder and more outrageous a DUmmie/liberal gets while defending their ideology, the less they have in the way of conviction about what they say.

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PassingFair  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 09:59 AM
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23. At least I can sleep soundly...knowing that none of my precious atheist children ...
   
were harmed.

Since they're not allowed to BE Boy Scouts.

The lord works in mysterious ways.....
Seems like the pissing-fairy believes after all.   ...and the last time I checked, theBoy Scouts do not refuse membership to a child because he is an athiest.
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 11:39:15 AM »
I don't expect DUmmies to understand Christianity, if they did, they would be believers.

I'm a nonbeliever. But I don't fly into psychotic fits of rage whenever someone says "God."

That is because you are comfortable in your disbelief.  Liberals do not have that luxury.  They know in their hearts that everything they say they believe is false.  They have to stand on guard at all times ready to foam at the mouth and rage against the truth.  It stands to reason, since they know everything they want everyone else to believe is false,  that in the dark corners of their minds they know there is God in His Heaven, a God they must lie about and deny.   

DUmmie/liberals only rage against that which they know is true, but must not admit, because admitting to the truth weakens liberalism.   The louder and more outrageous a DUmmie/liberal gets while defending their ideology, the less they have in the way of conviction about what they say.

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23. At least I can sleep soundly...knowing that none of my precious atheist children ...
   
were harmed.

Since they're not allowed to BE Boy Scouts.

The lord works in mysterious ways.....
Seems like the pissing-fairy believes after all.   ...and the last time I checked, theBoy Scouts do not refuse membership to a child because he is an athiest.

As I remember from my time in the scouts long ago, a belief in God is required, it doesn't necessarily have to be the Christian God.
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 01:15:04 PM »
Friggin idiots. Haven't they ever heard of the parable where the afflicted asks God, "Why?" God replies "Why not?"
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2008, 03:12:20 PM »
Aren't they just too cute stumbling around trying to figure out why God does what He does when they can't even explain their own behavior. It's like watching the 8 blind men trying to describe and elephant after each one touches a different part.
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2008, 03:19:19 PM »
Screw them . Let GOD deal with them and their ignorance. It'll be a huge surprise to them when HE does
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2008, 05:49:40 PM »
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82. DU never ceases to amaze me....
 How some on DU would claim to be so "enlightened" and "progressive", yet still so hateful and angry for no good reason.

I cannot see how any reasonable person could read this as "gloating" in the name of Insert Deity Here.
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94. I think it's just some posters on DU
 I find it interesting how people who claim to be tolerant and forgiving, are usually the most intolerant and unforgiving people I've ever met.
Quick story: My spouse and I were invited to a party where the host couple was very religious. When they found out we weren't religious, they asked us to leave.

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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2008, 06:02:30 PM »
Screw them . Let GOD deal with them and their ignorance. It'll be a huge surprise to them when HE does

HE? What is this, you are ASSUMING that GOD (if it exists) is a MAN? Are you completely discounting the notion that GOD could be a WOMAN? What a sexist pig you are!

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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2008, 08:11:40 PM »
I guess I just get stuck on the idea that "going home" is supposed to be a bad thing.  I feel horrible for those who are still here, missing the scouts that are gone, but the scouts themselves???   :innocent:
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2008, 08:26:58 PM »
I expect the primitives to be stupid, to invent a faux-outrage, and to view those who believe in God in an immature manner, so none of this is surprising.  But, comments like this need to be projected far and wide for all to see with the "typical liberal" and "rank and file of the Democrat party" labels firmly attached.

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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2008, 08:32:54 PM »
I expect the primitives to be stupid, to invent a faux-outrage, and to view those who believe in God in an immature manner, so none of this is surprising.  But, comments like this need to be projected far and wide for all to see with the "typical liberal" and "rank and file of the Democrat party" labels firmly attached.

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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2008, 08:59:51 PM »
I guess I just get stuck on the idea that "going home" is supposed to be a bad thing.  I feel horrible for those who are still here, missing the scouts that are gone, but the scouts themselves???   :innocent:
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2008, 09:49:10 PM »
Part of me wants to give the DUmmies a bit of a pass on this. There is no harder part of the belief in God than trying to wrap your head around why bad things happen to good people. Why do children have to die and suffer? I've seen things like this drive people from their faith.

We really want to put a human perspective on that which is unknowable. Jesus said the only way to the Father is through Him. The reason why that is, I think, is that we can have no comprehension of the Father. We can figure out Jesus, a little, because He was human.

I have two basically scattered thoughts about the DU thread:

1. You can tell a lot about a person by his/her perspective of God

2. A priest whom I respect very much put suffering into perspective for me. I remember this always: "Who ever told you life was going to be easy? Jesus was the Son of God. You know what God allowed to happen to His Son. Of course we're going to have suffering in our lives."
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2008, 10:47:12 PM »
I've thought about this a bit and I think the DUmbasses are mad that more BSA members didn't die.

Hate to say it but it is true.  Sad but true and a reason I will not shed tears for the demise of 95% of the DUchebags.

Bitch slap away but you know I'm correct on this.
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2008, 05:52:59 AM »
Part of me wants to give the DUmmies a bit of a pass on this. There is no harder part of the belief in God than trying to wrap your head around why bad things happen to good people. Why do children have to die and suffer? I've seen things like this drive people from their faith.

We really want to put a human perspective on that which is unknowable. Jesus said the only way to the Father is through Him. The reason why that is, I think, is that we can have no comprehension of the Father. We can figure out Jesus, a little, because He was human.

I have two basically scattered thoughts about the DU thread:

1. You can tell a lot about a person by his/her perspective of God

2. A priest whom I respect very much put suffering into perspective for me. I remember this always: "Who ever told you life was going to be easy? Jesus was the Son of God. You know what God allowed to happen to His Son. Of course we're going to have suffering in our lives."

In Bible study the other night this was just the topic at hand. Romans 12:12, the 'be patient in affliction' part. This seems to allude to Romans 5:3-6

"Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us."

Paul applies this strictly to believers but I also think that it is a useful message for non-believers. It gives some meaning to pain and suffering. We don't suffer merely for the sake of suffering. There are multiple purposes for it but the main reason seems to be strengthening character. There are usually one of two out comes to a person going through a personal tragedy. They either come out the other side a better, wiser person than when they when in or is ruins them spiritually and emotionally.
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2008, 06:04:16 AM »
"We can thank God in his Mercy that more childen were not Killed"

I have to agree that this is not exactly the best statement one can come up with when they are most likely friends or aquaintences of the parents of the children who were killed. Kind of the equivilent of "God spared my child."

Ouch.





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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2008, 06:23:34 AM »
"We can thank God in his Mercy that more childen were not Killed"

I have to agree that this is not exactly the best statement one can come up with when they are most likely friends or aquaintences of the parents of the children who were killed. Kind of the equivilent of "God spared my child."

Ouch.

But people under a great deal of stress oftentimes say things hinting a sort of personal selfishness, a disregard for the feelings and sensibilities of others.

I think it's an eminently understandable, and forgiveable, thing.
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Re: primitives upset about Boy Scout tragedy in Iowa
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2008, 12:46:05 PM »
I've thought about this a bit and I think the DUmbasses are mad that more BSA members didn't die.

Hate to say it but it is true.  Sad but true and a reason I will not shed tears for the demise of 95% of the DUchebags.

Bitch slap away but you know I'm correct on this.

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