PROPOSED: Immigration Reform

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Be it proposed that any foreign national adult parent or guardian of a minor child, regardless if the child is of foreign or US birth, who willfully enters the US in such a manner as to be in violation of US immigration law shall be deemed to have committed an offense of child abuse and shall be liable for all criminal penalties associated therewith to include, but not restricted to: forfeiture of parental rights, denial of legal immigration status, deportation, bar from enlistment in the armed forces of the United States, civil penalities as provided commensurate with a felony conviction in the second degree under the USC.

[Chris_]

Seconded.

[JohnnyReb]

I would rather see them made citizens...........................................................of North Korea.

[ExGeeEye]

SGT Bunny, my only problem with your suggestion is that they remain in the US, at least as long as it takes to finish whatever sentences a court would see fit to impose.

My solution gets them out, and makes the country so inhospitable to them that they choose to stay out:

"1. Illegal aliens are to be detained upon detection and deported within twenty-four hours.

"2. Any citizen knowingly employing, sheltering, concealing, or otherwise assisting (other than emergency medical care) an illegal alien shall suffer forfeiture of all property, real and personal, all assets, businesses, business licenses, and any other thing except his/her physical freedom and two changes of clothing; after which he/she may seek employment and start over.

"3. Any non-citizen legally resident, acting as described in para 2 above, shall suffer the same penalty and be deported to his/her country of origin within 48 hours.

"4. Any public official, in any branch of government, at any level, who under color of clemency, legal discretion, or other official privilege, shall obstruct, alter, or modify the swift application and extent of paras 1-3 above to any degree soever, shall suffer the same penalty and be summarily removed from office."

(That’s to keep judges from saying “ooooo, that’s too harsh” and governors etc. from handing out pardons to business-owner buddies.)

[thundley4]

I'd still be happy using reciprocal laws for all countries.  We deal with Mexicans the way they treat immigrants.  We deal with Canadians the way they treat immigrants.

[J P Sousa]

I have no faith that any immigration reform will do anything unless it calls for the President of the United States to be imprisoned if the immigration laws are NOT enforced. 

I don't see that happening so any immigration reform is just a big LIE.

Why are the current laws not being enforced ?????

I rest my case. 

[Chris_]

I'd still be happy using reciprocal laws for all countries.  We deal with Mexicans the way they treat immigrants.  We deal with Canadians the way they treat immigrants.

Seconded

[DefiantSix]

Personally, the way I'd do it would be to consolidate most entry visas into a single, serialized "guest worker pass", which would only be available at US consolates and embassies around the world. Want to work in this country without becoming a citizen? You have to have one and it has to be assigned to you, solely and exclusively by biometric info. Get caught on US soil without one, and you're permanently barred from entering the US again. Get caught with somebody else's visa, and well... I wouldn't make any long term plans. A felony Fraud conviction will make those quite impossible.

Oh, and "guest worker" visas automatically mean you don't qualify for government welfare. Want to suck the government teat? Go home to that third-world shit hole you came from to do it.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

SGT Bunny, my only problem with your suggestion is that they remain in the US, at least as long as it takes to finish whatever sentences a court would see fit to impose.

My solution gets them out, and makes the country so inhospitable to them that they choose to stay out:

My idea as well.

Only I'm using the fact that since they are committing a felony while in the presence of a child we can take their children and deport them.

[CG6468]

I'd still be happy using reciprocal laws for all countries.  We deal with Mexicans the way they treat immigrants.  We deal with Canadians the way they treat immigrants.

Yep. Anyone coming into Mexico on its southern border is shot and killed.

[thundley4]

Yep. Anyone coming into Mexico on its southern border is shot and killed.

Not always.  Sometimes they are just robbed, beaten and sent back across the border.

[CG6468]

Not always.  Sometimes they are just robbed, beaten and sent back across the border.

In any case... 

[Eupher]

SGT Bunny, my only problem with your suggestion is that they remain in the US, at least as long as it takes to finish whatever sentences a court would see fit to impose.

My solution gets them out, and makes the country so inhospitable to them that they choose to stay out:

"1. Illegal aliens are to be detained upon detection and deported within twenty-four hours.

"2. Any citizen knowingly employing, sheltering, concealing, or otherwise assisting (other than emergency medical care) an illegal alien shall suffer forfeiture of all property, real and personal, all assets, businesses, business licenses, and any other thing except his/her physical freedom and two changes of clothing; after which he/she may seek employment and start over.

"3. Any non-citizen legally resident, acting as described in para 2 above, shall suffer the same penalty and be deported to his/her country of origin within 48 hours.

"4. Any public official, in any branch of government, at any level, who under color of clemency, legal discretion, or other official privilege, shall obstruct, alter, or modify the swift application and extent of paras 1-3 above to any degree soever, shall suffer the same penalty and be summarily removed from office."

(That’s to keep judges from saying “ooooo, that’s too harsh” and governors etc. from handing out pardons to business-owner buddies.)

Amended to add:

5.  Costs of deportation are to be borne by the illegal immigrant's nation of record. Where and when the United States provides monetary/financial aid to those nations, those deportation costs will be deducted from those contributions. In the event the United States does not provide aid to the deportee's nation of record or the deportee's nation of record refuses to pay, the costs shall be deducted from the monetary/financial contributions to the United Nations.