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No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« on: May 01, 2013, 08:41:02 PM »
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No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
 
To everyone here who grew up in this sick gun culture, I'm truly sorry, but you're upbringing has contributed to the death of a 2 year old girl at the hands of her 5 year old brother. And that's just the most recent example: this happens all the time.

It is NOT normal to be given a gun at 8 years old, and it is NOT normal to "learn to respect" guns early. This misguided notion is why a 2 year old is now dead. Her mother made the same mistake that EVERY PARENT EVER has made. She turned her back for a second. It happens. We are all human. But when you have a deadly weapon thrown into the mix? Well that turns a minor accident into an irreversible tragedy.

It has to stop. Just because you were raised a certain way does not mean you were raised the right way. That's how people grow and mature as human beings, by realizing that, hey, maybe mom and pops shouldn't have done this or that? Maybe it's NOT ok to teach your children to love guns.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: people need to grow up.

Your side has no regard for human life and you want to lecture someone how to raise their kids?  Right.

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2013, 08:45:11 PM »
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2013, 08:59:57 PM »
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2013, 09:07:45 PM »
I could be wrong but it sounds like someone got irresponsible and it only takes one irresponsible gun owner to undo all the good thousands and thousands of responsible gun owners do.

At 3-5 I was taught cleaning. And then firearm safety and so on. Got my first rifle at 8. Leave it to leftists to use a tragedy for their gun grabbing agenda.  :hammer: :hammer:

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2013, 09:20:04 PM »
I could be wrong but it sounds like someone got irresponsible and it only takes one irresponsible gun owner to undo all the good thousands and thousands of responsible gun owners do.

At 3-5 I was taught cleaning. And then firearm safety and so on. Got my first rifle at 8. Leave it to leftists to use a tragedy for their gun grabbing agenda.  :hammer: :hammer:


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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 09:25:51 PM »
- And yet it is normal to give a child birth control. Go figure....

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2013, 10:30:06 PM »
Okay, if DUmmie logic suggests when even one person is irresponisble, then we have to ban the whole thing, shouldn't we then ban Food Stamps because there are people who deliberately sell them for drug money, not to mention the ones who buy chips, sodas and prime rib...that's hardly responsible. And of course, there's welfare...plenty of of people have abused that and been irresponsible. Look at how many of them smoke, drink and get tattoos. That's not very responsible. How about disability? How responsible is it to take money that could go to someone who really needs it? Or how about firing the president...he certainly hasn't been responsible with our laws & Constitution. FHA...they've been extremely irresponsible, giving out loans to people who couldn't afford it. Not only did they crush those people's dreams but they destroyed the housing market which caused the whole economy to tank.

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 10:38:33 PM »
By their thinking it is not normal for anyone to be a moonbat.
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2013, 10:47:23 PM »
My daughter is going to be four next month and knows more about guns than any DUmmie ever will in their entire lifetime.  We will buy our daughter a gun when she's a bit older.  We want her to know gun safety and how to shoot a gun for her defense from leftist retards who might try to harm her.  I seem to remember stories in the news of young children (under 16) who shoot intruders when they are home alone with younger siblings. 

It's sad what happened to this family.  RIP to this precious child and I feel for her brother.  That kid is going to grow up hating himself.
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 01:34:41 AM »
I bought a Cricket for my kids to learn the basics on..they graduated from that to the .22 rifle of their choice. My son did well in high school, he was rewarded with an AR15 built to his specs.      Just look how he turned out.


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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2013, 03:51:17 AM »
I got a 20 gauge shotgun for my 8th birthday.

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2013, 04:12:44 AM »
I got a 20 gauge shotgun for my 8th birthday.



I had a .22 Rifle and a .410 shotgun by the time I was 8.

I was also driving tractors and using power tools at that age as well.  I'm not talking about a 12 HP Craftsman lawn tractor (I drove that when I was 5).  I'm talking about a 95 HP Farmall 806 with a 5-bottom moldboard plow, plowing a field, ALONE AND UNSUPERVISED!

My Dad showed me how to use a drill, power saw, welder, torch, and band saw, all before I was 10.

A tractor can kill you just as well as a gun, a saw can maim and cripple you just as well as a gun. 

Use all of the above correctly, with respect and for their intended purpose, you have nothing to fear, except some sniveling DUmbass who gets elected to a position of power, and tries to tell me he knows more about what I do than I do.
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2013, 06:28:05 AM »
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That's how people grow and mature as human beings, by realizing that, hey, maybe mom and pops shouldn't have done this or that? Maybe it's NOT ok to teach your children to love guns.

You mean maturing into terminal, perpetual adolescents who demand that Mommy and Daddy provide for them until death, there Mr. Low Post "Stir-up-the- Ant-Farm" troll?  I wish I paid more attention to "Mommy and Daddy" when I was a kid instead of having an epiphany around 25-26, or so.

Kids are not taught to love guns, jackass.  They are taught to respect firearms in the entirety.  What they do, how they do it and the safe way to preform the primary function.


A tractor can kill you just as well as a gun, a saw can maim and cripple you just as well as a gun. 


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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2013, 07:20:35 AM »
I had a .22 Rifle and a .410 shotgun by the time I was 8.

Hell, I feel deprived now.  I was 12 when I got the .22 LR, and 13 when I got the shotgun. :bawl: :tongue:
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2013, 08:13:39 AM »
First was a .22 Marlin at 5 that was my grandfather's, the second was a General Motors M-1 Carbine at age 9. :rocker:

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2013, 08:19:49 AM »
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: people need to grow up.

I'm more mature than you can ever hope to be, ergo I see just how stupid your beliefs are.  Until you learn that lesson, there's no reason to continue.

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2013, 09:00:36 AM »
I'm writing a paper on logical fallacies. This post along with many others at DU are going to be my cited examples. Thanks losers!

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2013, 09:14:04 AM »
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2013, 09:21:27 AM »
DUmmy suffers from the usual lib malady: thinking "left" is "right", "normal" is "abnormal", and "abnormal" is "normal".

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2013, 09:53:51 AM »
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2013, 10:50:17 AM »
I was given my 20 when I turned 13
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2013, 11:32:00 AM »
The "article" linked in the n00b DUmmie's OP is here.  It's a 5 year old posting from a gun-grabber/pearl-clutcher bunch of lib busybodies that have cherry picked the absolute worst examples and presented them as regular occurrences.  The biggest common factor is that firearms were left out around small children and around older children who obviously got their "education" about firearms not from responsible parents, but from other leftist sources ("entertainment" media).

No agenda there, huh?

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No, it's not normal to give a child a gun

Uh, retard, your source does not show one single example where any of those children were "given" guns.

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To everyone here who grew up in this sick gun culture, I'm truly sorry, but you're upbringing has contributed to the death of a 2 year old girl at the hands of her 5 year old brother.

No it hasn't.  My upbringing taught me to:

1.  Respect life always.

2.  Treat every weapon like it is loaded until you personally verify otherwise.

3.  Never point the barrel of any weapon at someone.

4.  Know what is behind your target and do not fire until you do.

5.  Keep your finger out of the trigger guard unless you are firing.

6.  Put your firearms and ammo out of the reach of small children and idiot libs.

7.  Never, ever, lose positive control over a loaded weapon.

8.  I am the best safety.

Can you guess which of those things learned in my "upbringing" I have passed along to my children, retard?  Can you guess how many firearm mishaps there have been in my home?

My "upbringing" in this "sick gun culture" had nothing to do with the irresponsibility of the parents of these children.  Maybe, just maybe, you could save your bullshit guilt trip for them.

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And that's just the most recent example: this happens all the time.

No, it doesn't.  If that were true, it would be in the top 10 causes of unintentional deaths of the age groups you are whinging about.

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It is NOT normal to be given a gun at 8 years old

What is normal, DUmmie, is to "earn" your privilege to handle a real firearm.  In my home, you get non-firing toys first.  Toys are training, play is practice, evaluation of how you treat that chunk of plastic factors heavily into what constitutes the right age for you to hold a firearm in my home.  The minimum age you must achieve for your first trip to the range is 10 years old.  In my house, it's a big deal to go to the range with mom and dad for the first time because it is an earned privilege where "okay" isn't good enough. 

Prior to the trip is full instruction on how that weapon works, a range "safety brief" including dry firing unloaded weapons so there are no doubts about range commands and instructions, weapon safe and clear, weapon breakdown and cleaning.  None of the children walk away from their first gun shoot without firearms respect and safety indelibly stamped into the brains.

That', DUmmie gun grabber, is "normal" and "responsible".

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and it is NOT normal to "learn to respect" guns early.

Of course it isn't.   :whatever:  Do you have any idea how ****ing retarded that was? 

If they don't learn respect early, they will end up hurting themselves or someone else, DUmbass.  You just invalidated your entire argument...

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This misguided notion is why a 2 year old is now dead. Her mother made the same mistake that EVERY PARENT EVER has made. She turned her back for a second. It happens. We are all human. But when you have a deadly weapon thrown into the mix? Well that turns a minor accident into an irreversible tragedy.

No, stupid, it isn't.  Want to know why that child is dead?  See "sick gun culture upbringing" rules 1, 6, 7, and 8.

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It has to stop. Just because you were raised a certain way does not mean you were raised the right way.  That's how people grow and mature as human beings, by realizing that, hey, maybe mom and pops shouldn't have done this or that?

Irony, thy name is DUmbass...

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Maybe it's NOT ok to teach your children to love guns.

A firearm is a tool.  Proper teaching and training of a child is to respect and care for the tool and to be a responsible, proper, lover-of-life hand that wields it.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: people need to grow up.

Indeed....
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2013, 11:44:53 AM »
The "article" linked in the n00b DUmmie's OP is here.  It's a 5 year old posting from a gun-grabber/pearl-clutcher bunch of lib busybodies that have cherry picked the absolute worst examples and presented them as regular occurrences.  The biggest common factor is that firearms were left out around small children and around older children who obviously got their "education" about firearms not from responsible parents, but from other leftist sources ("entertainment" media).

No agenda there, huh?

Uh, retard, your source does not show one single example where any of those children were "given" guns.

No it hasn't.  My upbringing taught me to:

1.  Respect life always.

2.  Treat every weapon like it is loaded until you personally verify otherwise.

3.  Never point the barrel of any weapon at someone.

4.  Know what is behind your target and do not fire until you do.

5.  Keep your finger out of the trigger guard unless you are firing.

6.  Put your firearms and ammo out of the reach of small children and idiot libs.

7.  Never, ever, lose positive control over a loaded weapon.

8.  I am the best safety.

Can you guess which of those things learned in my "upbringing" I have passed along to my children, retard?  Can you guess how many firearm mishaps there have been in my home?

My "upbringing" in this "sick gun culture" had nothing to do with the irresponsibility of the parents of these children.  Maybe, just maybe, you could save your bullshit guilt trip for them.

No, it doesn't.  If that were true, it would be in the top 10 causes of unintentional deaths of the age groups you are whinging about.

What is normal, DUmmie, is to "earn" your privilege to handle a real firearm.  In my home, you get non-firing toys first.  Toys are training, play is practice, evaluation of how you treat that chunk of plastic factors heavily into what constitutes the right age for you to hold a firearm in my home.  The minimum age you must achieve for your first trip to the range is 10 years old.  In my house, it's a big deal to go to the range with mom and dad for the first time because it is an earned privilege where "okay" isn't good enough. 

Prior to the trip is full instruction on how that weapon works, a range "safety brief" including dry firing unloaded weapons so there are no doubts about range commands and instructions, weapon safe and clear, weapon breakdown and cleaning.  None of the children walk away from their first gun shoot without firearms respect and safety indelibly stamped into the brains.

That', DUmmie gun grabber, is "normal" and "responsible".

Of course it isn't.   :whatever:  Do you have any idea how ****ing retarded that was? 

If they don't learn respect early, they will end up hurting themselves or someone else, DUmbass.  You just invalidated your entire argument...

No, stupid, it isn't.  Want to know why that child is dead?  See "sick gun culture upbringing" rules 1, 6, 7, and 8.

Irony, thy name is DUmbass...

A firearm is a tool.  Proper teaching and training of a child is to respect and care for the tool and to be a responsible, proper, lover-of-life hand that wields it.

Indeed....

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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2013, 11:50:18 AM »
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Re: No, it's not normal to give a child a gun
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2013, 11:59:33 AM »
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No, it'snot normal to give a child a gun

You're right, DUmbass. With the "wrap 'em in bubble wrap" approach you sheeple advocate, too damned many kids are lacking in sufficient self control and self discipline necessary for any responsible human being to feel comfortable putting most tools - not just guns - into their hands, supervised or not. (This situation isn't limited to children. Only a truly insane person would permit anything more dangerous than a lump of your own shit to fall into reach of you DUmbshits, but we're talking children - your intellectual superiors, for the most part - at the moment.)

However, not all kids are drinking the Kool Aid. My son for example, was given a Cub Scout pocket knife by my step dad for Christmas, when he was seven. He wasn't at the time a Scout, and there were many of his cousins who were that did not get such a tool from Grampa. The proudest moment of my life was that day before Christmas when my step dad took me aside, told me what The Boy was getting from him, and told me it was because Josh exhibits more self discipline than all of his other grandkids COMBINED. (It was on his following birthday - age 8 - that The Boy was presented with his first .22 rifle.)

So yes, DUmmy, it isn't normal to give a kid a gun. But then, the kids who show that they're ready for the responsibility are increasingly uncommon.
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