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I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« on: May 01, 2013, 11:42:48 AM »
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Let me start by saying that I want *reasonable* gun regulations, including background checks.

I also don't really believe that "walking around in circles in protest" really has a lot of impact on our legislatures; frankly, I think this was a *huge* success in the 1960s because it was "new" and ever since it has become "normalized" to the point where the people in power don't even notice or minimize it. Realistically, while some people won't cross a picket line, others just use the back door so they can get to work, and I think "crowds of protesters" mean nothing, unless they are all swearing to spend money to defeat you for re-election. (I could be wrong - this is my perception.)

But what I want - and what I think *other people* want - is REASONABLE gun legislation, including background checks, so *ALL OF US* can be safer. We want to make sure the drug gang doesn't have AK-47s; that crazy Uncle Bob doesn't have a gun to shoot anything that moves when he's drunk; that our sister's crazy ex-boyfriend who used to beat her up can't kill her and her children because this time, when she moved out, she really means it; and that random nut-jobs can't walk up and down our streets shooting at people.

Those of us who possess empathy, compassion and a sprinkling of wisdom can figure out these things are REASONABLE without having to become a victim of gun violence - and then we have the Republicans. So, barring the bad karma that goes with wishing ill on people, how do we communicate the NECESSITY of these things?

I propose a protest intended to MAKE IT PERSONAL.

1) The protest needs to be in their home neighborhoods, preferably on their streets. It needs to be when they are home - either early in the morning, before they go to work, later in the evening when they are sitting down for dinner, or when they are mowing the lawn - no matter what, it has to be WHEN THEY AND THEIR FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORS ARE HOME.

2) It needs to have a crowd of at LEAST 50 people or more. Most of the protesters should look as scruffy as possible. Some should wear prison garb, others should be dressed as zombies, others should be in wheelchairs, heck - throw in a couple of doctors/nurses/someone on a gurney to symbolize the toll of gun violence, and then maybe even weeping people following a make-shift child's casket. Get the idea? VISUAL symbols of the toll of gun violence, done as a theater parade.

and lastly, this part is the MOST important

3) EVERY SINGLE PERSON SHOULD BE CARRYING EITHER A "REAL" WEAPON, OR A FAKE ONE. Signs should proclaim the range - "If you can read this sign, this gun can kill you" and "100 Rounds in 10 Seconds - You Can't Run Fast Enough" and "Bullets Can Penetrate Your Walls" (maybe with a picture of some of the children killed this way).

I have to believe that if 50 armed "protesters" were walking through my neighborhood with "guns" that I might get the hint that it only takes ONE NUT to kill me and mine - and I am *NOT* advocating violence, please to note.

I am advocating making the people who don't seem to "get it" aware of just how vulnerable EVERYONE is - even them, in their neighborhoods where no one would ever think it could happen (until it does).

Thoughts?

ON EDIT: No bullets, of course, and "fake" guns, as well as interaction with the police to make sure it is clearly a "safe" protest. 


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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2013, 11:49:11 AM »
Fake weapons for fake people.

Newsflash, DUmmy... the gangbanger with the AK didn't go through a background check to get it.
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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2013, 11:51:07 AM »
First of all, "reasonable" and "gun control" coming from DUmbass Ida Briggs have the same gravity and weight as "trained alligator", "informed democrat voter", or "common sense legislation".  This crazy bitch is a gun grabber, pure and simple, and does not care how many of us are to be left as victims from obama's children.

Second, how do you marginalize protest and demand a protest in the same post?  Isn't that a bit, well, stupid?

Third, how do you plan on getting people on your side when you are making a racket in their neighborhoods while they are either getting ready for work or relaxing after work?

Fourth, we call 'em DUmmies for a reason, don't we?
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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2013, 11:54:15 AM »
Fake weapons for fake people.

Newsflash, DUmmy... the gangbanger with the AK didn't go through a background check to get it.

Neither did crazy Uncle Bob nor the stalker ex.
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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2013, 11:58:46 AM »
more pitchforks and torches please!   :angryvillagers:

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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 12:15:37 PM »
Sounds like a silly stunt dreamed up by junior high school kids.
IdaPiggs has got to do better. Just stupid.
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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2013, 12:18:05 PM »
Is being willfully naive the same as being just plain stupid?

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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 12:21:11 PM »


Keep your effing hands off my soda, happy meals, and guns.  :censored:

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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2013, 12:23:16 PM »
So 50+ armed people protesting outside of people's private homes? and no one will perceive that as a threat?
because that is what protests outside a home is: a threat to those inside.

Methinks the "evil" here is to so intimidate the innocent people inside as force them to shoot in self defense. and wala, it was a replica gun with the orange painted over. The home owner will be billed as shooting an innocent protester.

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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2013, 12:36:47 PM »
Methinks the "evil" here is to so intimidate the innocent people inside as force them to shoot in self defense. and wala, it was a replica gun with the orange painted over. The home owner will be billed as shooting an innocent protester.

I don't think the DUmbass is that clever.
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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2013, 12:40:31 PM »
The idea was so stupid, even the DUmmies thought that it hadn't been considered from all angles.

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4. Interesting thought...

Still, since most of the ones you have to deal with are around the DC, MD, and VA area, you may want to bone up on carrying laws.
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5. I would say you summerized your OP just right. evil.

If anyone would do what you sugested they would go straight to jail. Obviously that doesn't matter to you.

Brandishing real and/or fake weapons around senators and representatives!  What could possibly go wrong?

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seems to be only another reason for them to double down on their need for weapons to protect themselves.
 

And the zombie costumes!   :lmao:  What's up with that?

So, Ida asks for feedback and doesn't like what she hears.  So, she's all butthurt and defensive.  

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24. An "Armed" Protest Parade in the Public Street.

With some "street theater" to get attention.

People carrying signs while wearing "gang colors" - "I can get a gun at a gun show without a background check."
 

And for that, of course, she gets called racist.  

Personally, I would love for them to try this.  Except that we'd have to pay for 3 hots and a cot for the lot of them.  

I just adore these threads where they trot out lamebrained ideas to bat around.  They're great!   :rotf:

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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2013, 12:41:25 PM »
Just when I think I can't read anything dumber I read the OP's post at DU.
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24. An "Armed" Protest Parade in the Public Street.

With some "street theater" to get attention.

People carrying signs while wearing "gang colors" - "I can get a gun at a gun show without a background check."

IdaBriggs: I think it's brilliant, really I do!

But you should take your protest to the crucible of gun violence- the inner city.

Get 49 of your friends. Dress up like blackface zombie gangbangers. Walk down the street in the middle of the ghetto waving Airsoft AK-47s and signs saying "If Obama had a son, he could buy an AK-47 at a gun show" and "Blacks shouldn't own guns".

They'll get the message!
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2013, 12:55:41 PM »
^^^ :lmao: :rofl:

And I was having such a boring afternoon, too.  What fun!

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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2013, 12:59:16 PM »
I would be in fear for my life and react accordingly.
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Re: I have an EVIL idea - thoughts, please
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2013, 01:07:15 PM »
IdaBriggs: I think it's brilliant, really I do!

But you should take your protest to the crucible of gun violence- the inner city.

Get 49 of your friends. Dress up like blackface zombie gangbangers. Walk down the street in the middle of the ghetto waving Airsoft AK-47s and signs saying "If Obama had a son, he could buy an AK-47 at a gun show" and "Blacks shouldn't own guns".

They'll get the message!

I would pay good money to watch the carnage. Put it on MTV..title it-- A good case of whip ass in the Ghetto
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2013, 02:07:14 PM »
Another great idea from the DUmbasses!

They're drawing on the experience of the occupoopers.

Nothing built their public support more than crapping on a police cruiser.

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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2013, 02:32:55 PM »
Hey I'maDUmbass,  That is the dumbest idea I've EVER heard.  Just do us a favor and have a good ole cup of Shut the F**k up.   :loser:
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2013, 02:36:58 PM »
Nads adds an extra dash of bullshit to the crazy stew:

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I was covering the Alpine Parade...yup, small town parades are always kitschy and cute.

So who leads the parade? Duncan Hunter and his brigade of volunteers with signs. I aproached with the intent of asking a non compromising question, we are trying to get him to talk to us...so you gotta be non challenging the first time, maybe second. I did not realize just how fast he could run...he literally took off...FAST down hill.

I promise, my question was on how fun was the parade...cross my heart.

This is as nerf ball as I could think. In contrast I have asked hardballs, even got to break national news, from a democrat, who happens to be a first termer. The Dem is not a woozy.

I hope to see him today as well.

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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2013, 02:54:15 PM »
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In contrast I have asked hardballs, even got to break national news, from a democrat, who happens to be a first termer. The Dem is not a woozy.

Wow! Nutcase nadin broke NATIONAL news!

The East County online free pennysaver is where the AP goes for news!

No one else in America knew about the grass fire on that vacant lot.

And what's a "woozy"? Another name for the First Wookie?

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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2013, 02:55:38 PM »
If I saw gNads coming my way I would run too.   :runaway:
 

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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2013, 03:02:05 PM »
If I saw gNads coming my way I would run too.   :runaway:


A bald weeble wobbling after me in a dirty vest with the "good rig" bouncing off her gut? Yeah, I'm outta there like a shot, too, Dori!  :panic:
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2013, 03:21:38 PM »
A bald weeble wobbling after me in a dirty vest with the "good rig" bouncing off her gut? Yeah, I'm outta there like a shot, too, Dori!  :panic:

I'd be in trouble, Sue.  I'd see her wobbling toward me, freeze up, say "Holy crap, what's Ben Franklin doing here?"... and she'd run over the top of me like a Loony Tunes bulldozer over Yosemite Sam.

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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2013, 03:37:36 PM »
IdaBriggs: I think it's brilliant, really I do!

But you should take your protest to the crucible of gun violence- the inner city.

Get 49 of your friends. Dress up like blackface zombie gangbangers. Walk down the street in the middle of the ghetto waving Airsoft AK-47s and signs saying "If Obama had a son, he could buy an AK-47 at a gun show" and "Blacks shouldn't own guns".

They'll get the message!

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