« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: cousin nadin hates auto-correct  (Read 1349 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« on: April 30, 2013, 07:58:12 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022778290

Oh my.

Quote
nadinbrzezinski (119,329 posts)   Tue Apr 30, 2013, 06:55 PM

So Zimmerman gave up

the stand your ground hearing...gotta wonder what O'Mara (the defense lawyer) has under his sleeve...
 
Per the Rev Al show

(I hate autocorrect)

Quote
Egalitariat (1,593 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:02 PM

1. A no-brainer legally

In Zimmerman's best case scenario - one where a judge believes he didn't start the fight, Zimmerman thought Trayvon was going to beat him to death, and he shot only to protect himself - no judge would have granted him immunity knowing the outcry that would follow.
 
And he'd have to show a bunch of his Defense cards.

Quote
mwrguy (811 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:09 PM

3. He is claiming simple self defense, not 'stand your ground'

He claims that he was attacked and did not have the ability to retreat, so SYG does not enter into it.

Quote
VanillaRhapsody (234 posts)   Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:13 PM

5. "Not having the ability to retreat..."

Isn't that the very definition of the SYG law?

Quote
ManiacJoe (5,509 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:26 PM

8. It is the exact opposite.

SYG says you had the ability to retreat but chose to stand and fight instead.

Quote
brush (990 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 08:51 PM

19. Trying to avoid civil suit

If zimmerman's lawyer pulls off the most spectacular defense and gets zimmerman off, because of this new wrinkle, zimmerman cannot be sued in civil court.
 
He's rolling the dice and hoping he gets off in criminal court and then doesn't have to worry about civil suits at all.
 
He wants to kill and be completely unscathed, save for those couple of weeks he spent in jail when the judge caught him lying about having no funds.
 
Real good character guy this zimmerman.

Quote
MellowYellow (23 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:12 PM

4. My whole problem with Zimmerman was that he followed Trayvon on foot.

If you're so afraid that someone might beat you death then why stalk them? If you can't go fist to fist then don't go looking for trouble.

Quote
ProgressiveProfessor (22,071 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:51 PM

13. This was fully expected and is indicative of nothing

The other motions were much more interesting. The defense claims slow rolling by the state and may score some points with that. The motion to depose the family lawyer should be even better. Classic grounds for appeal if Zimmerman loses the motion and the trial.

Quote
Kalidurga (4,802 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 08:26 PM

17. He really doesn't have much choice.

Sure he could go in front of a judge and explain how he was standing his ground. But, he would be very likely to lose that argument and he would give away his defense doing so.
Logged
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline delilahmused

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7384
  • Reputation: +1367/-80
  • Devil Mom
Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2013, 08:33:43 PM »
Well, at the time Zimmerman was attacked I thought he was walking back to his vehicle in the opposite direction as 0bama's adopted son. I think I have the wrong definition of stalking.

Cindie
Logged
"If God built me a ladder to heaven, I would climb it and elbow drop the world."
Mick Foley

"I am a very good shot. I have hunted for every kind of animal. But I would never kill an animal during mating season."
Hedy Lamarr

"I'm just like any modern woman trying to have it all. Loving husband, a family. It's just, I wish I had more time to seek out the dark forces and join their hellish crusade."
Morticia Addams

Offline FlaGator

  • Another Pilgrim
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5413
  • Reputation: +1032/-31
  • Democracy can survive anything except Democrats
Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 08:41:36 PM »
Quote
brush (990 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 08:51 PM

19. Trying to avoid civil suit

If zimmerman's lawyer pulls off the most spectacular defense and gets zimmerman off, because of this new wrinkle, zimmerman cannot be sued in civil court.
 
He's rolling the dice and hoping he gets off in criminal court and then doesn't have to worry about civil suits at all.
 
He wants to kill and be completely unscathed, save for those couple of weeks he spent in jail when the judge caught him lying about having no funds.
 
Real good character guy this zimmerman.

That is absolutely wrong. The stand your ground ruling would have made him immune from all further criminal or civil penalties if the judge had granted it. Now that he has waived that right, should he win in criminal court he is still can be sued in civil court for wrongful death. Think OJ he won the criminal case but lost in civil court.
Logged
"My enemy's enemy is the enemy I kill last."
Klingon Proverb.

Offline SSG Snuggle Bunny

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23565
  • Reputation: +2482/-270
  • Voted Rookie-of-the-Year, 3 years running
Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2013, 09:25:25 PM »
Quote
MellowYellow (23 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:12 PM

4. My whole problem with Zimmerman was that he followed Trayvon on foot.

I can't wait for the trial for this bullshit line to be put to rest on the public record.
Logged
According to the Bible, "know" means "yes."

Offline JakeStyle

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3146
  • Reputation: +359/-39
Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 10:02:30 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on April 30, 2013, 09:25:25 PM
I can't wait for the trial for this bullshit line to be put to rest on the public record.

They'll just ignore it at the DUmp.
Logged

Offline AprilRazz

  • I love my...
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2705
  • Reputation: +202/-16
Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 06:12:56 AM »
Quote
MellowYellow (23 posts)    Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:12 PM

4. My whole problem with Zimmerman was that he followed Trayvon on foot.

If you're so afraid that someone might beat you death then why stalk them? If you can't go fist to fist then don't go looking for trouble.
So when do you go in to testify seeing that apparently you were there watching the whole thing? :mental:
Logged
Proud Navy Wife and Veteran

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." Suzanna Hupp


racist – A statement of surrender during an argument. When two people or disputants are engaged in an acrimonious debate, the side that first says “Racist!” has conceded defeat. Synonymous with saying “Resign” during a chess game, or “Uncle” during a schoolyard fight. Ori

Offline Airwolf

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12165
  • Reputation: +912/-163
Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 12:57:38 AM »
So now shes a lawyer?
Logged
MOLON LABE

"Someday, when all your civilization and science are likewise swept away, your kind will pray for a man with a sword."-- Conan the Barbarian

Clint Eastwood - Because God wanted Chuck Norris to have nightmares.

"I am not a Number,I am a free man"

"He's my hero, you don't put away your heros, you honor them!"

Offline BlueStateSaint

  • Here I come to save the day, because I'm a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32553
  • Reputation: +1560/-191
  • RIP FDNY Lt. Rich Nappi d. 4/16/12
Re: cousin nadin hates auto-correct
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 07:04:15 AM »
Quote from: Airwolf on May 02, 2013, 12:57:38 AM
So now shes a lawyer?

Paging Bally!  Ballygrl, please pick up the red phone!  You have resume work to do! O-) :whistling:
Logged
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty." - Thomas Jefferson

"All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk!" -Ayn Rand
 
"Those that trust God with their safety must yet use proper means for their safety, otherwise they tempt Him, and do not trust Him.  God will provide, but so must we also." - Matthew Henry, Commentary on 2 Chronicles 32, from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible

"These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to liberty than street criminals or foreign spies."--Theodore Haas, Dachau Survivor

Chase her.
Chase her even when she's yours.
That's the only way you'll be assured to never lose her.
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »