COMPLETELY UNCONSTITITIONAL!

[formerlurker]

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Well that is exactly what it looked like when you watch the entire tape.   One house picked for whatever reason.   

[txradioguy]

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Well that is exactly what it looked like when you watch the entire tape.   One house picked for whatever reason.   

IIRC from listening to the Boston PD scanner that day there was one house that was supposed to be empty...but someone kept looking out from behind a curtain in an upstairs window then ducking back behind it.  That's what drew them to that particular house.

[formerlurker]

Exigent Circumstances

[txradioguy]

Exigent Circumstances

LOL! Won't do you any good with Rebel.  I showed him that too and he said there was nothing going on in Watertown that justified using exigent cuircumstances.

[Rebel]

Sad what a supposed free people will accept as the norm for the sake of security.

[formerlurker]

LOL! Won't do you any good with Rebel.  I showed him that too and he said there was nothing going on in Watertown that justified using exigent cuircumstances.

Oh I see.  

Pay no attention to the IEDs on the road kids...

[Eupher]

In your opinion.  I cited the relevant part of the ruling as it applies to what we're talking about here.

That's just the point, TRG. The ruling ISN'T relevant to what happened in Watertown. An airplane on the ground in which it was suspected that armed people might be in, and then in the process of determining that, an LEO observed what appeared to be marijuana in the airplane's cabin. That does not equate in any way to what happened in Watertown when an entire NEIGHBORHOOD was rousted because of what the LEOs thought were a dangerous criminal being afforded sanctuary in one of those houses.

As if the occupants wouldn't know it. 

Any LEO with half a brain could instantly determine if a homeowner was hiding something/someone or not. The sight of all those uniforms with all those weapons tends to be very intimidating -- the very essence of terror.

Don't see it happening.

Okay, you don't see it happening. But that doesn't mean it won't. There are PLENTY of hungry lawyers out there. Time will tell whether or not some hungry lawyer will convince one of those rousted people that their 4th Amendment rights were shitcanned down the toilet.

  What they did will stand up in court IF it is challenged. 

In your opinion.

[formerlurker]

Sad what a supposed free people will accept as the norm for the sake of security.

You have no idea if there was a warrant or the reason why they did what they did, yet have assessed the situation and deemed it unconstitutional.  

Did anyone from this house speak out yet?

[Rebel]

BTW, that's not the only house that was searched like that. Hate to burst your bubble, FL. I've posted one video. You apparently didn't believe that one, so I won't waste my time posting other videos like a guy in a house that opened his window and had a LEO behind a turret aim at him and yell at him to close his window.

[formerlurker]

That's just the point, TRG. The ruling ISN'T relevant to what happened in Watertown. An airplane on the ground in which it was suspected that armed people might be in, and then in the process of determining that, an LEO observed what appeared to be marijuana in the airplane's cabin. That does not equate in any way to what happened in Watertown when an entire NEIGHBORHOOD was rousted because of what the LEOs thought were a dangerous criminal being afforded sanctuary in one of those houses.

As if the occupants wouldn't know it. 

Any LEO with half a brain could instantly determine if a homeowner was hiding something/someone or not. The sight of all those uniforms with all those weapons tends to be very intimidating -- the very essence of terror.


Okay, you don't see it happening. But that doesn't mean it won't. There are PLENTY of hungry lawyers out there. Time will tell whether or not some hungry lawyer will convince one of those rousted people that their 4th Amendment rights were shitcanned down the toilet.

In your opinion.

SCOTUS uphold exigent circumstances cause the cops smelled pot.....

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/supreme_court_upholds_exigent-circumstances_search_of_apartment_that_smelle/

[formerlurker]

BTW, that's not the only house that was searched like that. Hate to burst your bubble, FL. I've posted one video. You apparently didn't believe that one, so I won't waste my time posting other videos like a guy in a house that opened his window and had a LEO behind a turret aim at him and yell at him to close his window.

Please post it because I looked for more and didn't see any.

[Eupher]

Exactly where is this guys 4th Amendment rights being violated?




Members of a police SWAT team talk to a man while conducting a door-to-door search for 19-year-old Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev on April 19, 2013 in Watertown, Massachusetts. After a car chase and shoot out with police, one suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was shot and killed by police early morning April 19, and a manhunt is underway for his brother and second suspect, 19-year-old Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev. The two men are suspects in the bombings at the Boston Marathon on April 15, that killed three people and wounded at least 170. (Photo: Spencer Platt/Getty Images)


A Watertown resident and Boston Globe employee was at home when the SWAT team knocked on her door. Food editor Sheryl Julian described the interaction:
 

“The SWAT team knocked on every door,” Julian said. “They came in but they didn’t go through the house. We told them we had been through the basement. They went through the garage, in every bush, the whole team, rifles poised, through every single inch of this neighborhood. And every single inch of our house outside.”
 
They were very calm, just having a conversation when they came to the door.
 
“They asked, ‘Have you seen anyone? Have you checked around? Very polite.’”
 
They were going from door to door.
 
And then, just as quickly, they were gone.
 
“It was very quiet.”

We'll never know the real deal here. It could be that cooler heads prevailed with this particular group/squad of cops. The leader of this squad understood the ramifications of forcibly ejecting people from their homes with their hands over their heads and made a simple request.

No big deal. Life goes on.

BTW, I agree with TRG in that in the video I saw, I didn't see any LEO point his weapon at a resident. I saw LEOs instruct residents to raise their arms over their heads, but no direct threat by pointing his weapon.

[Eupher]

Oh I see.  

Pay no attention to the IEDs on the road kids...

The two critters built a grand total of five bombs, two of which were exploded at the marathon, one of the street during the firefight in which the elder brother was gunned down, and two others.

Low grade explosives.

Wow.

Let's roust the neighborhood. Even the screaming children.

[Eupher]

SCOTUS uphold exigent circumstances cause the cops smelled pot.....

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/supreme_court_upholds_exigent-circumstances_search_of_apartment_that_smelle/

And smelling pot is analogous to a fleeing critter exactly how?

[Big Dog]

Oh I see.  

Pay no attention to the IEDs on the road kids...

You keep bringing that up as justification to shut down the entire city.

How many of those IEDs were recovered on the road in East Boston, South Boston, Chelsea, Revere, or Quincy? All of those neighborhoods were locked down "voluntarily" sheltered in place, and public transportation in those unaffected areas was shut down too.

How about the small businessmen who counted on public transit for his employees to come to work in an unaffected part of the metropolitan area? Their closing was hardly "voluntary".

[Splashdown]

I'll be honest. I'm finding this debate fascinating.

Swear to God I'm not stirring shit with this next question:

How come the guy taking the video wasn't rousted from his house?

I can definitely see both sides of this argument. It has been going on since the Civil War.

There has to be more to it than what we see on that video.

[Firekrakka]

Let's roust the neighborhood. Even the screaming children.

Not to mention the pets!

[Eupher]

Not to mention the pets!

Terrorist Kitty!

[Firekrakka]

 

[Eupher]

I'll be honest. I'm finding this debate fascinating.

Swear to God I'm not stirring shit with this next question:

How come the guy taking the video wasn't rousted from his house?

I can definitely see both sides of this argument. It has been going on since the Civil War.

There has to be more to it than what we see on that video.

He was taping surreptitiously. It could be that he shut the camera down when they came knocking at his door. He did tape the cop standing outside his door.

[Big Dog]

Not to mention the pets!

See the bag of Cheesy Poofs and half a bottle of wine on the coffee table?

I bet there's a bag of weed under the couch cushion!

"OK, Mr. Jingles, just be cool...be cool. Giggle, giggle."

[Eupher]

See the bag of Cheesy Poofs and half a bottle of wine on the coffee table?

I bet there's a bag of weed under the couch cushion!

"OK, Mr. Jingles, just be cool...be cool. Giggle, giggle."

The tipoff is the color purple.

Who buys a purple couch?

Dopesmokers, that's who! (Terrorist Kitty keeps mistaking the weed for catnip, though, which is a huge problem.)

[thundley4]

The tipoff is the color purple.

Who buys a purple couch?

Dopesmokers, that's who! (Terrorist Kitty keeps mistaking the weed for catnip, though, which is a huge problem.)

There is also the camera and laptop right there.  Those subversives were photographing the cops and uploading to Twitter.

[IassaFTots]

Not to mention the pets!

 

I spy wine and cheesy poofs.  

ETA: shoulda gone to the next page before replying.  They were already spied.   

[txradioguy]

In your opinion.

Nope that is the opinion of someone who IS a Constitutional lawyer.  Might have heard of him...runs Landmark Legal Foundation.  Heard he has a talk show too.