The biggest losers in the Boston bombing story...

[FlippyDoo]

My thoughts on this are, this event has shown just how far we have sunk as a civilization. We have a government that is doing everything they can do to disarm us and make it so that we need to hide in our dark houses anytime there is a bad guy out there. Maybe if they spent more time looking at what immigrants from terrorist hotbeds are doing, instead of worrying how many rounds we have in a single magazine this shit wouldn't happen as much. Maybe instead of frisking granny and autistic 8 year olds at the airport, we should focus on people who fit the description of your "typical terrorist" at the airport. I know the left will howl about racial profiling and their normal nonsense, but we need to stand up to those freaks of nature and actually allow the TSA, the FBI, CIA, and so forth to focus on actual terrorists. You know what we used to call common sense back when our country had at least a little bit of sense.

I agree.

I'm also curious about why it seems that you rarely hear about these terrorist type attacks in areas where there is less gun control. I'm talking about in areas where you would be more likely to hear something along the lines of:

Operator: 911. How may I help you?

Private Citizen: Yeah, I need you to send the police to the corner of Oak and Main Streets. I just popped a cap in the ass of some idiot trying to kill people.

[formerlurker]

Boston did what they had to do so law enforcement could sweep the streets to clear the IEDs and bring the POS to the surface.  They were calm, cooperative and helpful to requests made of them:

One consoling thought is the admirable behavior of the citizens of greater Boston and its law enforcers. The point may seem banal, but it's no small matter that the public largely heeded the government's orders to stay off the streets and take the day off so police could track down the younger brother, 19-year-old Dzhokhar, who was captured Friday night after a day-long manhunt.

Bostonians have endured enormous disruption this week, but the city has shown a remarkable civility and calm throughout it all. Many lives were saved because of the rapid triage work by volunteers at the bomb scene. Bloomberg News reports that one of the marathon bombing's victims also helped the FBI identify a suspect after he awoke from surgery at the hospital. The suspect had dropped a bag at Jeff Bauman's feet and looked him in the eye minutes before it exploded. Mr. Bauman lost both legs below the knee but got his man.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323809304578432952673799328.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

and echoing what freeper just said:

This means surveilling foreign student groups in the U.S., certain immigrant communities that have produced jihadists, and, yes, even mosques and other Muslim venues. The key is to be familiar enough with these communities, to know and be trusted enough by their leaders, so those man and women will alert law enforcers when someone appears to have become radicalized.

This offends some civil libertarians, and the Associated Press excoriated the NYPD for the practice in a series of stories in 2011. In the wake of Boston, this looks notably misguided. New York's police say they've kept at it, under appropriate legal safeguards, and we hope they will continue.

The U.S. government watches right-wing extremist groups because we know they are dangerous. The police shouldn't refrain from doing the same to Muslim or immigrant groups merely because that is deemed less politically correct. As the week's events in Boston show, the costs of doing otherwise are too high.

[formerlurker]

I agree.

I'm also curious about why it seems that you rarely hear about these terrorist type attacks in areas where there is less gun control. I'm talking about in areas where you would be more likely to hear something along the lines of:

Operator: 911. How may I help you?

Private Citizen: Yeah, I need you to send the police to the corner of Oak and Main Streets. I just popped a cap in the ass of some idiot trying to kill people.

They hit large urban cities where entrance/exit is easily done (Canada is not far away), where there is a large, diverse population of college students, and where they can easily get lost if needed (NYC is hours away).  

They hit Texas, they are still driving 12 hours later to get the hell out of Texas, and they would stick out like a sore thumb.

[Freeper]

I agree.

I'm also curious about why it seems that you rarely hear about these terrorist type attacks in areas where there is less gun control. I'm talking about in areas where you would be more likely to hear something along the lines of:

Operator: 911. How may I help you?

Private Citizen: Yeah, I need you to send the police to the corner of Oak and Main Streets. I just popped a cap in the ass of some idiot trying to kill people.

Criminals and terrorists hate competition. They want to be the only one in the room with a gun.

[formerlurker]

Criminals and terrorists hate competition. They want to be the only one in the room with a gun.

They wouldn't be alone in central and western MA - large population of gun owners (lots of hunters).   No idea what the stats are for the Boston area.

[Dori]

What more could be done though? Im just wondering. Our FBI is limited by the law and rightly so. Beyond a certain point they can't do anything to someone who has not done anything yet. As much as these bastards disgust us, it is truly a gray area legally, until they killed. If this were changed then we can bet it would be used against any number of us for our views before it would be used on them. So no, I don't hold the FBI at fault here unless I am missing something. Did they commit some crime that was not followed up on? At any rate I agree with you that more info will come out.

Hi5!!!!

They have stopped several terrorist threats. Many of them through entrapment.  But this Admin seems to want to ignore what's right under their nose so as not to offend Muslims who don't have our best interests.  I have read where upwards of 10% of Muslims are or believe in radical Islam.  

They were warned by another country about this guy.  He didn't show up on any of their data reports so they closed the door on him.  Why?   Did they bother to tell the Boston police or the MA AJ what they had learned?  Why wasn't there a red flag going up when he went to Russia for six months?  Why wasn't there a red flag when he was arrested for beating up his girlfriend or posting dozens of jihad videos to youtube?  

What really makes me crazy is that they had this video of him and his brother that they determined were the bombers, yet they had to put their pictures out to the public to find out who they were.  As far as I see it, they had already interviewed him in 2011 and had his name and where he lived.  He should have been at the top of their list.  

[I_B_Perky]

I was quite shocked people actually listened to the police and stayed indoors under their blankies too.  I highly doubt our company would have closed its doors because of two people on the loose.  Really just one, because didn't the older brother die the night before?  If we had to stay locked up because ONE bad guy was on the loose, our city would be on "lock down" almost every single day.  Are we suppose to stay in our homes when an armed robber gets away and just stay holed up until the police find him?

Round these part the cops would have probably told the population: "If you see him, PLEASE call the police instead of shooting him!"   

[Firekrakka]

They have stopped several terrorist threats. Many of them through entrapment.  But this Admin seems to want to ignore what's right under their nose so as not to offend Muslims who don't have our best interests.  I have read where upwards of 10% of Muslims are or believe in radical Islam.  

They were warned by another country about this guy.  He didn't show up on any of their data reports so they closed the door on him.  Why?   Did they bother to tell the Boston police or the MA AJ what they had learned?  Why wasn't there a red flag going up when he went to Russia for six months?  Why wasn't there a red flag when he was arrested for beating up his girlfriend or posting dozens of jihad videos to youtube?  

What really makes me crazy is that they had this video of him and his brother that they determined were the bombers, yet they had to put their pictures out to the public to find out who they were.  As far as I see it, they had already interviewed him in 2011 and had his name and where he lived.  He should have been at the top of their list.  

I agree with you there. I blame Obozo and Nappy the most. They should have deported their asses the minute he got that beating conviction.

[miskie]

The biggest losers in the Boston bombing story...
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Id say the biggest losers are the victims and their friends and loved ones, asshat- but you go on and label the right wing as such... 

[formerlurker]

Id say the biggest losers are the victims and their friends and loved ones, asshat- but you go on and label the right wing as such... 

Newlywed couple - she is a nurse.  Both lost a leg.

The injuries to those who survived are horrifying.

[Evil_Conservative]

They dropped IEDs all over multiple cities.   This isn't an armed thug of the projects, this was a terrorist and they had no idea what he strapped to his body and what he had on him to toss (grenades being one of the items).

I am more than sure you would have stayed home also and if your employer opened then they would be assholes.

No, I would not have.  I'm not going to let ONE person hold me hostage in my house all day.  I don't see how my employer would have been "assholes" for doing business.  Dunkin' Donuts was open all day during the standoff/lock down yesterday in Boston to feed the cops... seems they (employees of DD) were okay.  I don't live my life in fear of one person.  If there was a very large group of terrorists in my city throwing bombs out of car windows, shooting at police, etc. then I would have stayed indoors by choice.

(I had to edit this because I pressed 'post' before finishing my reply)

[98ZJUSMC]

I'd say we, the average citizen, are the biggest losers.  There is now a precedent to shut down all commerce and activity, and basically hide in your home until mommy makes the bad man go away. 

This was two people shutting down an entire city, imagine the chaos when coordinated attacks occur in multiple cities.  The fact that Bostonians  are celebrating like it's VE day makes it all the more humiliating.

Reason # 3,475 why I refuse to live in one.  It takes an act of God to get me near one, anymore.  When it hets worse....I'll just leave it at that.

[BlueStateSaint]

Round these part the cops would have probably told the population: "If you see him, PLEASE call the police instead of shooting him!"   

Around here, they would have said something like that, but privately, the sheriff's deputies and State Police would not be upset if said perp got a couple of bullet holes from a civilian or two.

[formerlurker]

No, I would not have.  I'm not going to let ONE person hold me hostage in my house all day.  I don't see how my employer would have been "assholes" for doing business.  Dunkin' Donuts was open all day during the standoff/lock down yesterday in Boston to feed the cops... seems they (employees of DD) were okay.  I don't live my life in fear of one person.  If there was a very large group of terrorists in my city throwing bombs out of car windows, shooting at police, etc. then I would have stayed indoors by choice.

(I had to edit this because I pressed 'post' before finishing my reply)

You claim this from how many states away?  You wouldn't have left your house if you were here, was fully aware of what was happening, and understood the danger of going out.   

[formerlurker]

The DDs that opened - no idea who staffed them, but no one else was on the street and the staff had plenty of police protection getting to and from work.   

[Evil_Conservative]

You claim this from how many states away?  You wouldn't have left your house if you were here, was fully aware of what was happening, and understood the danger of going out.   

Yes I would have left my house.  I would have left my house in our gun friendly state.  Again, there is no way in hell I would have let ONE person on the loose keep me locked up in my house all day.  I guess if you live in Boston where most of the residents have NO way of protecting themselves, even while in their own homes, then I might have stayed home and grabbed a pair of scissors or a pen or a baseball bat....

But seriously, who cares?  If you want to comply with Marshall Law, then do it.  I have a life to live here and one lunatic isn't going to keep us all locked up in our homes or offices.  I'd be coming and going as I do every single day.  That one person could not be in every single part of the city at one time.

I saw a picture of a police officer bringing milk to a family who ran out during the lock down.  Where did he get that milk from?  Must have been from a place that had people out while the lock down as going on.  I guess every single one of those people were stupid and their employers were "assholes" for opening their doors for business too.

[Big Dog]

The DDs that opened - no idea who staffed them, but no one else was on the street and the staff had plenty of police protection getting to and from work.   

Is it the job of the Boston Police Dept to provide armed escort for donut shop employees going to work?

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'm sorry...Were you describing Glen Beck or Democratic Underground? 

Because from what I saw, there were endless threads by your fellow Dolts making wild accusations that it was right wing extremists, and lamenting the fact that it might turn out to be a non-white guy who did it.

I believe Archae is going for Hitler's "Big Lie" approach with that one.  And it sure is a whopper.

 

[formerlurker]

Is it the job of the Boston Police Dept to provide armed escort for donut shop employees going to work?

No and they clearly only did by default as those employees would be the only people on the road with massive police presence.

[formerlurker]

Yes I would have left my house.  I would have left my house in our gun friendly state.  Again, there is no way in hell I would have let ONE person on the loose keep me locked up in my house all day.  I guess if you live in Boston where most of the residents have NO way of protecting themselves, even while in their own homes, then I might have stayed home and grabbed a pair of scissors or a pen or a baseball bat....

But seriously, who cares?  If you want to comply with Marshall Law, then do it.  I have a life to live here and one lunatic isn't going to keep us all locked up in our homes or offices.  I'd be coming and going as I do every single day.  That one person could not be in every single part of the city at one time.

I saw a picture of a police officer bringing milk to a family who ran out during the lock down.  Where did he get that milk from?  Must have been from a place that had people out while the lock down as going on.  I guess every single one of those people were stupid and their employers were "assholes" for opening their doors for business too.

You do know only a small handful of towns were on lockdown right?

[Firekrakka]

Reason # 3,475 why I refuse to live in one.  It takes an act of God to get me near one, anymore.  When it hets worse....I'll just leave it at that.

I'll never go to Boston again It's like the Commie Capital of the East.