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Max Baucus on Obamacare: "I just see a huge train wreck coming..."


 
Max Baucus, facing an election next year, suddenly is "very concerned not enough is being done so far. Very concerned."

In the following video Baucus grills Kathleen Sebelius on Wednseday April 17, 2013 on the implementation of the Affordable Care Act.

 

at 9:25 President Obama explains why he didn't fight for Single Payer.

"You've got this system that's already in place. We don't want a huge disruption as we go into health care reform where suddenly we're trying to completely re-invent one sixth of the economy.."--Barack Obama

If you want to see exactly what is wrong with Congress skip to 13;21 where Amy Goodman reveals the financial holdings of key congresspeople involved with "Health Insurance Reform".

Harry Reid: $50,000 invested in a health care index,
Judd Gregg=$560,000 worth of stock holdings in major health care companies
Family of Jane Harman: 3.2 million dollars in more than 20 health care companies
John Kerry: at least 5.2 million dollars in companies such as merck and eli lilly
Chris Dodd: Wife serves on the boards of 4 health care companies

Max Baucus:

As chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Baucus called the first Senate meeting of interested parties before the committee to discuss health care reform, including representatives from pharmaceutical groups, insurance companies, and HMOs and hospital management companies. The meeting was controversial because it did not include representatives from groups calling for single-payer health care.

Advocate groups attended a Senate Finance Committee meeting in May 2009 to protest their exclusion as well as statements by Baucus that "single payer was not an option on the table." Baucus later had eight protesters removed by police who arrested them for disrupting the hearing.

Many of the single-payer advocates claimed it was a "pay to play" event. A representative of the Business Roundtable, which includes 35 memberships of health maintenance organizations, health insurance and pharmaceutical companies, admitted that other countries, with lower health costs, and higher quality of care, such as those with single-payer systems, have a competitive advantage over the United States with its private system.

At the next meeting on health care reform of the Senate Finance Committee, Baucus had five more doctors and nurses removed and arrested

Baucus has used the term "uniquely American solution" to describe the end point of current health reform and has said that he believes America is not ready yet for any form of single payer health care. This is the same term the insurance trade association, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), is using. AHIP has launched the Campaign for an American Solution, which argues for the use of private health insurance instead of a government backed program. Critics have said that Medicare is already effectively a single-payer system

Baucus has been criticized for his ties to the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries, and has been one of the largest beneficiaries in the Senate of campaign contributions from these industries. From 2003 to 2008, Baucus received $3,973,485 from the health sector, including $852,813 from pharmaceutical companies, $851,141 from health professionals, $784,185 from the insurance industry and $465,750 from HMOs/health services, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. A 2006 study by Public Citizen found that between 1999 and 2005 Baucus, along with former Senate majority leader Bill Frist, took in the most special-interest money of any senator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Baucus




Uniquely American Indeed...

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022707839

Looks like Max will no longer be supported at democratunderground.com well at least until election day then you better support him or else.  :rotf:

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elleng (39,812 posts)
1. Looked in the mirror, eh, max???

He did help write it.

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a kennedy (6,908 posts)
9. I hate this guy........

not a Democrat at all in my book. Ugh.....

Now we get to the good part of the thread,

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sendero (24,960 posts)
12. Oh gee really?

Who could have predicted that a 2600+ page piece of legislation with so many provisions that no one, not even the ostensible authors, could ever really understand it, would have potential problems?

That's been my problem with ACA all along, it is TOO COMPLEX TO UNDERSTAND THE INTERACTIONS AND SIDE EFFECTS.

And no one really does so it is no surprise that folks are "worried".

You sound like a racist for not loving 0bamacare.

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Cleita (64,086 posts)
14. He helped write the ACA from what I have heard.

 

These Repub...er not, flip flop and lie all the time.

I love it, the dems created this, the dems passed this and it's the repukes who lied.  :rotf:
Meanwhile everything we said about the bill is coming true, and some of you hard headed fools are even starting to see it, yet you still blame us.  :mental:

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Javaman (40,341 posts)
18. trainwreck for the repukes...

they could have been a part of this but they chose party over the people.

this will have such a long term positive effect upon the American people that the repukes are pulling their hair out over it.

How did they choose party over people? No one wanted this bill the democrats forced this on us with very little support.
You are a freaking moron if you think this will have a positive effect.


I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Max Baucus on Obamacare: "I just see a huge train wreck coming..."
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2013, 04:48:10 AM »
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Javaman (40,341 posts)
18. trainwreck for the repukes...

they could have been a part of this but they chose party over the people.

this will have such a long term positive effect upon the American people that the repukes are pulling their hair out over it.

O.o 

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