Author Topic: Like prohibition it's time to amend the second amendment. (Read 4519 times)

Freeper · « **on:** April 17, 2013, 06:17:55 PM »

What is with DUmmies and the second amendment today?

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CK_John (5,327 posts)

Like prohibition it's time to amend the second amendment.

A move should be made to start the process. It's need to happen but as a tactic a move to repeal or amend the 2nd amendment should be made.

This could unravel the whole constitution but unless the Senate and House are scared into listening to the population they need a wakeup call.

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022694908

Even if you got congress to start the process there is no way in hell that 2/3 of the states would sign on to it. Lucky for us the founders were wise enough to make it so you can't just amend the constitution.

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graham4anything (7,529 posts)
14. A new SCOTUS in the next five years can reinterpet the 2nd like it has been in past.

It can be done through SCOTUS once there is a new court with more Elena and Sonia's on it.

If we can dream, in 2018 President Obama nominated and confirmed (like Pres. Taft did)
and he can be the one to write the new decision.

All it takes is to interpret the word MILITIA different.
It is really not that hard.

That is actually a likely scenario. If enough moonbat judges sit on the SC they would do something like that.

MrsSmith · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2013, 06:34:19 PM »

Because revoking our right to own guns will automatically cause all violence to cease. You can see how well this works in countries with a disarmed populace...like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria...

Big Dog · « **Reply #2 on:** April 17, 2013, 06:38:12 PM »

Quote from: Freeper on April 17, 2013, 06:17:55 PM

What is with DUmmies and the second amendment today?

Like Emperor Barry, the Sun King, they are feeling the butthurt.

DLR Pyro · « **Reply #3 on:** April 17, 2013, 07:09:52 PM »

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CK_John (5,327 posts)

Like prohibition it's time to amend the second amendment.

A move should be made to start the process. It's need to happen but as a tactic a move to repeal or amend the 2nd amendment should be made.

This could unravel the whole constitution but unless the Senate and House are scared into listening to the population they need a wakeup call.

Do you really want to open up this can of worms DUmmy? I can see lots of ways this will turn bad for you if you get your wet dream fantasy of repealing the 2nd ammendment. For starters, I can see the 14th ammendment going away and ridding this nation of the scourge of anchor babies (and future democrat voters) it creates.

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graham4anything (7,529 posts)
14. A new SCOTUS in the next five years can reinterpet the 2nd like it has been in past.

It can be done through SCOTUS once there is a new court with more Elena and Sonia's on it.

sounds like an admission that you don't believe in true justice from the SCOTUS. You just want to stack the deck with your own kind to get your way, justice be damned.

RayRaytheSBS · « **Reply #4 on:** April 17, 2013, 07:14:17 PM »

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This could unravel the whole constitution but unless the Senate and House are scared into listening to the population they need a wakeup call.

So you admit that removing the second amendment will effectively gut the constitution.... But yet you STILL insist on doing it?

miskie · « **Reply #5 on:** April 17, 2013, 07:22:09 PM »

It wouldn't surprise me for a DUmbass to propose a new multi-state gerrymandering scheme, Where a gigantic blue state gets to absorb its smaller 'red' neighbors to get around all of those 'troublesome' provisions in The Constitution.. For example, The state of New England would certainly neutralize those pesky red areas in Maine and New Hampshire. The State of 'Heartland' takes care of Iowa, Indiana, and Ohio once and for all because they are now part of Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin.. Absorb all of the states bordering The Rockies as well as the Dakotas into Colorado. California, Oregon, and Washington get to team up and take out Idaho, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico. The only problem is Texas. So - merge that state with the other smaller, reliably red states to diminish their effectiveness. and the rest kinda writes itself.

Its a liberal wet dream. And the 'money shot' will be when the US is split up into a half dozen smaller nations along those borders. Leftists everywhere will be in ecstasy.

jukin · « **Reply #6 on:** April 17, 2013, 07:23:36 PM »

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graham4anything (7,529 posts)
14. A new SCOTUS in the next five years can reinterpet the 2nd like it has been in past.

It can be done through SCOTUS once there is a new court with more Elena and Sonia's on it.

But what about PRECEDENCE like making baby killing a right. The DUches are nothing but little and stupid tyrants.

As to amending the Constitution. Go for it. That is the way it is supposed to work. Not having a judge make up new rights not contained in it or squashing rights that are in it.

MrsSmith · « **Reply #7 on:** April 17, 2013, 07:59:18 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

When considered by population, the US is WAY down on the list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership despite having the most guns. (Or BECAUSE??)

98ZJUSMC · « **Reply #8 on:** April 17, 2013, 08:39:38 PM »

Quote from: MrsSmith on April 17, 2013, 07:59:18 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

When considered by population, the US is WAY down on the list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership despite having the most guns.

Funny how those facts seem to slip right past the bestest and brightestest people on the planet.

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(Or BECAUSE??)

Ding! ... Ding! ... Ding!

You'll quickly notice how these asshats never want to venture into the actual demographics of homicide and violent crime.

dixierose · « **Reply #9 on:** April 17, 2013, 09:33:01 PM »

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This could unravel the whole constitution but unless the Senate and House are scared into listening to the population they need a wakeup call.

Isn't that why we elect them...to listen to US?

Chris_ · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2013, 09:35:04 PM »

Quote from: dixierose on April 17, 2013, 09:33:01 PM

Isn't that why we elect them...to listen to US?

Don't hold your breath.

wasp69 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2013, 09:58:23 PM »

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CK_John (5,327 posts)

Like prohibition it's time to amend the second amendment.

A move should be made to start the process. It's need to happen but as a tactic a move to repeal or amend the 2nd amendment should be made.

Now, this is something I could support: a challenge to an amendment through legal, Constitutional means. It'll fail, but at least you'll have done it legally.

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This could unravel the whole constitution but unless the Senate and House are scared into listening to the population they need a wakeup call.

Not very forward thinking, DUmbass. Losing the Constitution to kill our gun rights? What makes you think you'll survive that scenario, DUmbass?

chitownchica · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2013, 11:01:46 PM »

delilahmused · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2013, 11:44:20 PM »

Rush was saying today that polls show 96% of the population don't want this gun control crap. Hopefully, there are some lines that even SCOTUS won't cross. However, if they did, you could definitely get a NEW bill/amendment passed in congress (even Democrats...to many of them need gun owners' votes, even among their own). And they could definitely find 2/3rds states to ratify it. Were they to try something like this, it will be the end of them. Of course, I think they're already pushing he envelope further than the people want. They always do.

Cindie

GOBUCKS · « **Reply #14 on:** April 18, 2013, 12:03:56 AM »

Right now we have five votes (usually) on the Supreme Court.

If the jug-eared Kenyan gets to replace even one of those five, you'll have to enlist if you want to shoot a centerfire rifle.

That's the real significance of the 2012 election.

DefiantSix · « **Reply #15 on:** April 18, 2013, 12:14:48 AM »

Quote from: MrsSmith on April 17, 2013, 06:34:19 PM

Because revoking our right to own guns will automatically cause all violence to cease. You can see how well this works in countries with a disarmed populace...like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria...

Or Chit-cago, Detroit, Noo Yawk or Bahstan.

Rebel · « **Reply #16 on:** April 18, 2013, 07:47:59 AM »

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CK_John (5,327 posts)

Like prohibition it's time to amend the second amendment.

A move should be made to start the process. It's need to happen but as a tactic a move to repeal or amend the 2nd amendment should be made.

This could unravel the whole constitution but unless the Senate and House are scared into listening to the population they need a wakeup call.

Good luck, DUmbass. You liberty-trampling fools can't even get a simple majority. You think you're going to get 2/3rds of Congress or states.

Rebel · « **Reply #17 on:** April 18, 2013, 07:49:55 AM »

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graham4anything (7,529 posts)

All it takes is to interpret the word MILITIA different.
It is really not that hard.

Hey DUmbass...

The right:

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the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

The reason:

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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state

Molon Labe, dipshit.

BlueStateSaint · « **Reply #18 on:** April 18, 2013, 07:58:19 AM »

This DUmb****:

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graham4anything (7,529 posts)

All it takes is to interpret the word MILITIA different.
It is really not that hard.

Is going to have a tough time refuting this definition:

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"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
â€” George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

That one seems to have been the prevailing thought behind the Second Amendment. It still is.

ETA: While I'm at it, . . .

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"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People."
â€” Tench Coxe, 1788.