nads speculumates

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

nadinbrzezinski (118,589 posts)

Some speculation, informed by what we know so far


 
Since it is speculation...please take this with a huge grain of salt...not even those close to the investigation have a full picture yet.

First, placement of devices was close to the ground, and used the buildings to shape the frce of the wave.

Or maybe the perp was walking.

This I can say with a high degree of confidence due to injury types.

I can say with a high degree of certainty: you're an attention-whoring idiot gnome.

The rest not so much.

I believe this is internal.

I personally do not think it's a lone wolf but when all is said and done they will be able to pun the tail on one, max two.

 

Proving a conspiracy will be hard.

The fact that we have no claim to fame almost dismisses an international connection, not the MO of insert terror group here, but also makes me wonder if this was more effective than expected and the terrorists are scared out of their minds...this would point to amateur hour.

You just got done saying proving a conspiracy would be hard.

While the date and place suggest, highly, of RW militias, we have no actual evidence yet, linking to this or not.

Your ass supplies all the evidence you need. All you need to do is reach in and pull it out.

Now back to what we actually know.

If only you had stopped here.

Which s two improvised devices, a hell of a crime scene to process, and three dead and 174 injured.

The rest, really, as to motive and all that, we lack hard facts.

You I've read that...

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Brother Buzz (8,121 posts)

2. You just keep thinking, Butch. That's what you're good at.

LiberalFighter (30,975 posts)

6. I believe it is domestic too. Not sure it is militia type.

I may be wrong but think whoever did it were nearby. My first feeling is that it was triggered remotely.

They need to rule out victims. There is always the possibility that anyone responsible either intentionally or accidentally received injuries. Or faked them.

OWS?

treestar (39,466 posts)

7. If Islamic terrorists

it is heavily likely it would be a suicide bomber, who would be found at the scene. So not a suicide bomber. Makes it more likely it is home grown terrorists or a lone nutcase mad at the world.

Malvo and Hassan weren't suicidal, ****wit.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022685232

[txradioguy]

LiberalFighter (30,975 posts)

6. I believe it is domestic too. Not sure it is militia type.

I may be wrong but think whoever did it were nearby. My first feeling is that it was triggered remotely.

You're just full of fail today aren't you DUmmie?

Pressure cookers – possibly activated remotely by a cellphone – are believed to have been used to make the crude bombs that sent deadly shrapnel hurling into a crowd of onlookers and competitors at Monday’s Boston Marathon, experts told Fox News.

Doctors treating some of the 176 injured victims believe the explosives were packed with deadly shrapnel, including pellets, nails and sharp metallic objects – with some patients having “40 or more” such fragments embedded in their bodies.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/16/marathon-bombs-likely-made-from-pressure-cookers-shrapnel-say-experts


Pressure cooker IED's...think of a normal off the shelf pressure cooker stuffed to the gills with explosives and shrapnel...is a favorite weapon of choice of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Or faked them.

The only fake thing around here is your belief that you've got a brain.

[Dori]

Why would a pressure cooker be any different than any other kind of container?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Why would a pressure cooker be any different than any other kind of container?

I'm not the bomb expert that Nadin is but...

Gunpowder and such work better when tightly compressed. Unroll a firecracker and you'll see it flare where one tightly rolled explodes.

With the lid of a pressure cooker tightly sealed it will give the requisite pressure to hurl its shrapnel at greater force. Then just pack it in a bag surrounded with nails, BBs etc.

[txradioguy]

Why would a pressure cooker be any different than any other kind of container?

Here's a picture of one.  The sizes vary and the locking mechanism can be a little different but you get the idea.

Snugs nailed the why's perfectly. 

In Afghanistan they bury them in the ground and use them like land mines.

[Gina]

Brother Buzz (8,121 posts)

2. You just keep thinking, Butch. That's what you're good at.

that's a gay thing right? insult? 

[WinOne4TheGipper]

A politically motivated attack is going to go after political/government targets, like McVeigh and the Murrah building.  A politically motivated attack is not likely to happen at the Boston Marathon.  Tax Day/Patriots Day had nothing to do with it.  Nothing about the location of the attack lends itself to the idea (even if you accept the idea that conservatives are violent... ) that it was a Tea party attack, which is what nadin wanted to claim, but knew better than saying it.

[vesta111]

that's a gay thing right? insult? 

I have a pressure cooker and I can not figure out how one can be placed for more then a few moments off the heat to explode.

I have seen these things unattended blow up in kitchens, right straight up to the ceiling.  They do not blow outward but up and pea soup is amazing when the top goes through the roof.

[67 Rover]

I have a pressure cooker and I can not figure out how one can be placed for more then a few moments off the heat to explode.

I have seen these things unattended blow up in kitchens, right straight up to the ceiling.  They do not blow outward but up and pea soup is amazing when the top goes through the roof.

Bypass the pressure relief valve and see what happens.

[Dori]

I'm not the bomb expert that Nadin is but...

Gunpowder and such work better when tightly compressed. Unroll a firecracker and you'll see it flare where one tightly rolled explodes.

With the lid of a pressure cooker tightly sealed it will give the requisite pressure to hurl its shrapnel at greater force. Then just pack it in a bag surrounded with nails, BBs etc.

So they are just packed with gun powder?  Then how is it detonated? 

[Ballygrl]

I see what the idiots are doing, they're working themselves up so much that it was a right winger who did this, and if it turns out not to be? they'll yell coverup!

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

So they are just packed with gun powder?  Then how is it detonated? 

An article I saw today said the instructions on the al Qaeda website "Inspire" suggests a string of X-mas lights (I knew I hated Christmas for a reason). That would make sense as they could be packed inside the powder to provide a through and through ignition. Powered by a big enough battery whose circuit is connected by a cellphone call it would be cheap, easily acquired and effective.

[Airwolf]

So they are just packed with gun powder?  Then how is it detonated?  

A cell phone linked to a detonator of some kind set to go off when the call goes through. Which is what the cops are looking at. Now I guess we got the crunchy newz from El Guapo the world can finally rest knowing Inspector Gadget is on the job.

[67 Rover]

So they are just packed with gun powder?  Then how is it detonated? 

A few years ago I built a fireworks control box for our local block Fourth of July parties, 25 numbered momentary switches and with the flip of a lever you got another 25.  The momentary switch sent a signal out from the control box to a wireless relay at each mortar station which contained a 9 volt battery and a Estes model rocket igniter, that was the ignition source.

In later years I improved upon it by adding a Labview program that could control the launch automatically to music.

[Wineslob]

I see what the idiots are doing, they're working themselves up so much that it was a right winger who did this, and if it turns out not to be? they'll yell coverup!

They need to ask themselves why it's so necessary when history shows us none of this is true

[marv]

I have a pressure cooker and I can not figure out how one can be placed for more then a few moments off the heat to explode.

I have seen these things unattended blow up in kitchens, right straight up to the ceiling.  They do not blow outward but up and pea soup is amazing when the top goes through the roof.

I had a 6qt cooker explode on me when I didn't pay enough attention to notice that the pressure relief valve didn't open. What a mess that pork roast made. Took me all day to clean it up.

[BlueStateSaint]

They need to ask themselves why it's so necessary when history shows us none of this is true

That doesn't matter to them.  Their hatred for anything good and decent and conservative is enough for them to justify their thoughts.

[Dori]

A cell phone linked to a detonator of some kind set to go off when the call goes through. Which is what the cops are looking at. Now I guess we got the crunchy newz from El Guapo the world can finally rest knowing Inspector Gadget is on the job.

"Inspector Gadget".....I like that  


My only experience with serious explosives was when I was a kid running around with my cousins blowing up red ant hills with m-80s.  

[micmac]

I see what the idiots are doing, they're working themselves up so much that it was a right winger who did this, and if it turns out not to be? they'll yell coverup!

I am waiting for one of them to make a connection between pressure cookers and the South.  Since we all like to can our tomatoes and such, the perp must be a White, Southern, Racist, Gun-toting Teabagger.

[franksolich]

Hey nadin.

Shut the **** up.

You're not qualified to speculate upon why an egg breaks when it's dropped, much less upon something like this.

Damned stupid arrogant broad, who thinks she knows shit.

Just sit back and let those who know something about things, do the speculating.

[thundley4]

treestar (39,466 posts)

7. If Islamic terrorists

it is heavily likely it would be a suicide bomber, who would be found at the scene. So not a suicide bomber. Makes it more likely it is home grown terrorists or a lone nutcase mad at the world.

Maybe the Muslim figured out that the 72 virgins didn't and couldn't exist when Islam allows rape and pedophilia.

[miskie]

nads speculumates

That title is 31 Flavors of wrong. 

[Billiam Pitts]

How'd you know nads was going to misspell "speculates"

nadinbrzezinski (118,595 posts)
26. won't speculste

Further...but i amsure that is one line of enquiry

As to least used...my mom has bought three in her lifetime, and actuallyused each at least twuce a week

zappaman (8,039 posts)
27. "won't speculste"

but will "speculste" anyway.

[Ogre]

Anything Nads does is speculation, that DUmbass doesn't have the brain power to comprehend the most basic explosive train.

Once the FBI replicates the device from all recovered pieces, and believe me they will find every piece to each device, we'll have a better understanding of who, and what we are up against.

Until then I wish the left, the media (kinda of redundant), and the Nads would shut the **** up.

[formerlurker]

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:13 PM

Star Member madinmaryland (52,582 posts)
5. I thought we had been told not to speculate

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Wayne's World flashback...

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 04:59 PM

nadinbrzezinski (118,595 posts)

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Well, now that we know we are actually dealing with explosives [View all]
Let's not speculate as to who is behind this. It will take a while to earn what, who and why.

Suffice it to say, if you see something, call 911...whether you are in Boston...or anywhere else in the country.

These include abandoned packages...or people acting strange.

Just repeating standard emergency services mantras here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2678520

Back to present...

Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:21 PM

Star Member zappaman (8,039 posts)
13. OP is free to speculate since they

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have been a cop, a firefighter, a first responder, a paramedic, an EMT, a journalist, a trained historian, and who knows what else?
Maybe you should not be so jealous and let this professional speculate since they are so close (2600 miles away) to this tragedy...

Response to zappaman (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:41 PM

Star Member Brother Buzz (8,127 posts)
22. Marine, climatologist, seismologist.....

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The OP's accomplishment are pretty heady, so it's pretty easy to be humbled by someone who claims to be both, a native Californian and an immigrant to the United States

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Tue Apr 16, 2013, 01:31 PM

nadinbrzezinski (118,595 posts)
18. for professionalreasons

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I have mostky staid away from it. This is why i was pretty direct in callibg it what it is