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Offline franksolich

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primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« on: April 09, 2013, 02:00:27 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022642258

I had to grab one of the "Massa Barry's stealing our social security" hysteria campfires, because there's damned little from which to select.

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dkf (31,917 posts)   Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:48 PM

Wow my potential SS disability benefit is more than my benefit at age 62.

Looking up my SS estimated benefit and no wonder people are applying for SSDI in droves.
 
If you don't have anything saved and are going to retire on just SS you are better off getting the disability benefit.
 
Waiting til full retirement age gets me an extra $50/month. Retiring early at 62 is over $500 less.
 
I wonder what will happen when this trust fund runs out in approximately 2016.

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CreekDog (36,573 posts)   Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:53 PM

1. another welfare queen meme?

what would we do without you?

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Lasher (20,272 posts)    Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:54 PM

2. I believe the SS disability benefit equals your standard benefit at full retirement age.

If the SS disability trust fund runs out, money will be transferred into it from the retirement trust fund.

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dkf (31,917 posts)    Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:55 PM

4. So that is written into the code that it comes from the retirement fund?

Or is that assumed?

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PoliticAverse (5,483 posts)    Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:55 PM

3. Around 2016 they reallocate payroll tax payments so more goes into DI and less in OASI...

See this DU thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101660179

Skippy from New York City chimes in:

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NYC_SKP (48,050 posts)   Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:56 PM

5. What will happen?

Without knowing whether or not funds will run out, I have little confidence that anyone in DC will care.
 
I anticipate an increase in suicides, to be quite frank about it.

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6. Even if they do nothing to adjust it, it will still be able to pay 80% of benefits after 2034. This is according to the Soc. Sec. Admin. Really, the Heritage Foundation is not giving you the right information.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2013, 03:00:21 PM »
Why not just give everybody a printing press at age 65...
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2013, 03:22:50 PM »
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I wonder what will happen when this trust fund runs out in approximately 2016.

A recognition of reality?  

I doubt it.  I'm sure you'd be one of the first to scream like a B-horror movie queen when reform happens.  Hint, dipshit:  It has to.

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I anticipate an increase in suicides, to be quite frank about it.

 :sosad:  The alarm has been raised numerous times, dolt.  Your beloved power-mad Marxists assured everyone that Social Security was funded until....what...2034?...  2056?...2075?  when Bush was sounding the alarm. The date kept on changing so it's hard to remember sometimes.  And that includes PIAPS the Benghazi Bumbler. Don't ask me to pump any purple peanut butter for you idiots.  But, you may:

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Repeatedly.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 04:51:42 PM »
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6. Even if they do nothing to adjust it, it will still be able to pay 80% of benefits after 2034. This is according to the Soc. Sec. Admin. Really, the Heritage Foundation is not giving you the right information.

   

Like you and your ilk would be perfectly happy receiving 80% of what has been promised?
Bullshit,you will be screaming like rabid howler monkeys but the dirty little secret is that most of the DUmp is the filthy remnants of the 60s hippies.
Most of them will be long dead and gone in 2034 due to the abuse they have put their bodies through so they just want theirs now and to hell with anyone then.
Everything is always about them.  
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 04:56:03 PM »
Quote from: Carl on April 09, 2013, 04:51:42 PM
Like you and your ilk would be perfectly happy receiving 80% of what has been promised?

Bullshit,you will be screaming like rabid howler monkeys but the dirty little secret is that most of the DUmp is the filthy remnants of the 60s hippies.

Most of them will be long dead and gone in 2034 due to the abuse they have put their bodies through so they just want theirs now and to hell with anyone then.

Everything is always about them.

In 2034, the Cleita primitive will be 94, 95, 96, years old, something in there.

She might make it.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 05:44:49 PM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on April 09, 2013, 03:22:50 PM
A recognition of reality?  

I doubt it.  I'm sure you'd be one of the first to scream like a B-horror movie queen when reform happens.  Hint, dipshit:  It has to.

 :sosad:  The alarm has been raised numerous times, dolt.  Your beloved power-mad Marxists assured everyone that Social Security was funded until....what...2034?...  2056?...2075?  when Bush was sounding the alarm. The date kept on changing so it's hard to remember sometimes.  And that includes PIAPS the Benghazi Bumbler. Don't ask me to pump any purple peanut butter for you idiots.  But, you may:

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Repeatedly.

First, if anyone has any money then there will be no recognition of the failed policy. There will be calls to take more money from working people.

Second, the donks said in 2005 that SS trust fund was supposed to be in the green (for DUche lurkers, taking in more than spending) until 2027. However the reality was that in 2011 the SS trust fund went into the red. If you are under 55, you will never see all the money you and your employer put into the system, NEVER.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 05:56:04 PM »
No matter what Massa Barry does, no one reading this will live long enough to see Social Security fail to pay a single penny of its obligation.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 06:06:30 PM »
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NYC_SKP (48,050 posts)   Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:56 PM

5. What will happen?

-snip-

I anticipate an increase in suicides, to be quite frank about it.

Don't worry about suicides. Obamacare's death panels will have kicked into gear by then.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 06:22:11 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on April 09, 2013, 05:56:04 PM
No matter what Massa Barry does, no one reading this will live long enough to see Social Security fail to pay a single penny of its obligation.

However, there's that very real possibility a $1000 social security check'll buy two cents worth of stuff by then.

<<saw it happen, with own eyes, in the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 08:17:36 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on April 09, 2013, 06:22:11 PM
However, there's that very real possibility a $1000 social security check'll buy two cents worth of stuff by then.

<<saw it happen, with own eyes, in the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants.

They got smarter, well more devious, and take food and energy out of inflation calculations.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 08:23:35 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on April 09, 2013, 06:22:11 PM
However, there's that very real possibility a $1000 social security check'll buy two cents worth of stuff by then.

<<saw it happen, with own eyes, in the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants.

That is true. I was in Brazil for a while during hyperinflation.

It was no problem for an American with dollars and AmEx, but a nightmare for the natives.
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2013, 09:26:46 AM »
DUmmies ask yourselves this, how far beyond what you/we have paid in (including interest) will SS keep paying benefits?


See a problem with that?
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Re: primitives discuss, compare, social security benefits
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2013, 09:46:21 AM »
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NYC_SKP (48,050 posts)   Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:56 PM

5. What will happen?

Without knowing whether or not funds will run out, I have little confidence that anyone in DC will care.
 
I anticipate an increase in suicides, to be quite frank about it.

Lord willing.
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