the rich bitch speaks ill of the dead

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022635741

Oh my.

At least this event got the primitives away from their constant whining about Massa Barry messing with social security, and that's a relief.

kpete (38,525 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:48 PM

Greenwald really nails it today re “speaking ill of the dead.”

Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette

The dictate that one 'not speak ill of the dead' is (at best) appropriate for private individuals, not influential public figures
 
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..............there's something distinctively creepy - in a Roman sort of way - about this mandated ritual that our political leaders must be heralded and consecrated as saints upon death. This is accomplished by this baseless moral precept that it is gauche or worse to balance the gushing praise for them upon death with valid criticisms. There is absolutely nothing wrong with loathing Margaret Thatcher or any other person with political influence and power based upon perceived bad acts, and that doesn't change simply because they die. If anything, it becomes more compelling to commemorate those bad acts upon death as the only antidote against a society erecting a false and jingoistically self-serving history.
 
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so much more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-etiquette

Cleita (63,541 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:53 PM

2. If I'm still alive when Bush and Cheney go to meet their Maker, I will be grave dancing nonstop until I can't stand up any more.

haikugal (879 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:56 PM

4. Bingo!!!!

I'll be unapologetically joining you on that grave...dancing! When will people wakeup?!

MineralMan (52,355 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:59 PM

5. Normally, I don't post anything when some out of office politician dies. They're no longer in government and everything Thatcher did was quite some time ago. She's dead. We all die.

cali (78,512 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:02 PM

8. Mebbe so, but I feel no need to rush out and say anything just as the person dies

I really dislike Greenwald.

HangOnKids (2,272 posts)   Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:19 PM

11. You had no problem rushing out and saying shit about the Mom with the murdered infant

But hey you dislike Greenwald....guess that makes it okey dokey.

cali (78,512 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:22 PM

12. That's ridiculously false, pumpkin

I said not one negative thing about her. I speculated that she may have been involved, based upon a number of factors. I was wrong, but it's hardly "saying shit", genius.
 
Not to mention that it's an egregiously stupid comparison.

Yikes, honey, it burns.

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liberal_at_heart (3,583 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:03 PM

9. it's also creepy how vile and disgusting people are when someone they don't like dies.

They are imperfect humans as we all are imperfect. Just as all of us have done, those who die have done good things in their life and bad things in their life. They deserve neither sainthood nor hatred.

HangOnKids (2,272 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:15 PM

10. Would you like to hear all of Maggies imperfections as you call them?

Gee I feel really bad that somebody called Pol Pot an asshole too.

valerief (35,365 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:37 PM

15. We don't have to praise our mortal enemies!!!! No matter how much the DU bullies try to make us.

qazplm (3,224 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:43 PM

17. not creepy

basic respect to not speak ill of the dead.

I wouldn't have agreed with much of her positions, but I suspect she did the best she thought she could and knew. Being wrong, even a lot, is not a reason to speak ill of someone in and of itself.
 
I need a lot more than that. Bush for example I hold in a different category.

[Gina]

kpete (38,525 posts)    Mon Apr 8, 2013, 01:48 PM

Greenwald really nails it today re “speaking ill of the dead.”

Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette

The dictate that one 'not speak ill of the dead' is (at best) appropriate for private individuals, not influential public figures
 
......................

............................

..............there's something distinctively creepy - in a Roman sort of way - about this mandated ritual that our political leaders must be heralded and consecrated as saints upon death. This is accomplished by this baseless moral precept that it is gauche or worse to balance the gushing praise for them upon death with valid criticisms. There is absolutely nothing wrong with loathing Margaret Thatcher or any other person with political influence and power based upon perceived bad acts, and that doesn't change simply because they die. If anything, it becomes more compelling to commemorate those bad acts upon death as the only antidote against a society erecting a false and jingoistically self-serving history.
 
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so much more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk...-thatcher-death-etiquette

Right, you remember that if Obama kicks the bucket........oh but then it will be racism to "commemorate" his bad acts 

[Tucker]

There's another one making the rounds.(Sorry Frank. Don't want to start a new thread for this. I was looking to see if it was brought over when I saw yours)

Dear Americans. I am British. And I'd just like to say...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022635645

Dear Americans. I am British. And I'd just like to say...

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...that I'll believe she's dead when they've published a picture of her corpse with Dorothy's house on top of it.

Ciao!

CaliforniaPeggy (103,161 posts)
2. LOL!

Cleita (63,544 posts)
6. Maybe the Brits should burn the body just to make sure. n.t.

sibelian (2,676 posts)
9. "Cough, cough! What a smell of sulphur!"

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We'd need respirators.

backscatter712 (19,225 posts)
11. Make sure you hammer a wooden stake through her heart!

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Don't forget to cut off her head and stuff garlic in her mouth!

tavalon (25,510 posts)
13. Clearly, you Brits loved her the way we loved Reagan

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Proof positive that Devils come in any gender.

Interesting that a group of atheists believe in Satan.

pink-o (3,653 posts)
22. I was singing that the minute I heard the news!

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I lived in England in the 70s and 80s and watched her destroy the country the way her BF Reagan did to this one.

I posted this on FB: I refuse to shed a tear for her passing. I cried enough for the Brits who lost their homes, their jobs and died of AIDS because of her. She can go straight to hell.

Aerows (13,438 posts)
34. I hope they

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take a picture of her melting when the water hits her.

I know, it's awful to speak ill of the dead, but I have my moments when I'm awful. I'll try to restrain myself in a few minutes, and I'm not into grave dancing.

I'll be back and quite remorseful after I've done a jig.

That's racist. You gotta date with the 1st Wookie?

[Wineslob]

pink-o (3,653 posts)
22. I was singing that the minute I heard the news!

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I lived in England in the 70s and 80s and watched her destroy the country the way her BF Reagan did to this one.

I posted this on FB: I refuse to shed a tear for her passing. I cried enough for the Brits who lost their homes, their jobs and died of AIDS because of her. She can go straight to hell.

IN WHAT WAY? Examples, please.........................oh.....wait......you can't.

 

power based upon perceived bad acts

 

[RWKindaGuy]

IN WHAT WAY? Examples, please.........................oh.....wait......you can't.

 

 

How about unemployment moving from 13 percent to around 5 percent under her watch?  I guess facts have a way of getting in the way of that narrative they're pushing.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Hey DU, the reason you hate Bush so much is because he did exactly what all your ilk's chosen elected ones are demanding Obama do in Syria.  I thought it was a foolish idealistic exercise at the time, foredoomed by the fact that our system of government virtually ensures that any dedicated foe can outlast us on the ground overseas in the absence of a world-shattering event, but I served where I was sent.  Reflect on that, idiots.

[Vagabond]

Hey DU, the reason you hate Bush so much is because he did exactly what all your ilk's chosen elected ones are demanding Obama do in Syria.  I thought it was a foolish idealistic exercise at the time, foredoomed by the fact that our system of government virtually ensures that any dedicated foe can outlast us on the ground overseas in the absence of a world-shattering event, but I served where I was sent.  Reflect on that, idiots.

Well, that and the fact that ever since the 1960's the communist have deluded so many leftists and liberals into believing that any American use of power, either in our own defense or in the defense of someone else is wrong.

[Revolution]

These people are sickening, soul-less creatures. That is all.

[GOBUCKS]

I cried enough for the Brits who died of AIDS because of her.

She must have had a powerful virus.

I still don't believe any man who claims to have caught it from a woman, let alone Margaret Thatcher.

[Revolution]

I cried enough for the Brits who died of AIDS because of her.

Everytime a queer dies, or a DUmmie cries, and angel gets it's wings. At least, that's what I've heard.

[JohnnyReb]

And what's her name sings, "Don't cry for me OR-GENE-AND-TINA.............."

[GOBUCKS]

Actually the brain-dead DUmmy kpete didn't speak ill of the dead.

Her mental capacity doesn't allow for anything beyond diddling around in the useless arts.

She pasted ill of the dead.

[hillneck]

Here is a perfect example of how stupid, small, and ignorant these DUmmies are in their lives.  PM Thatcher left office in 1990 and that she is still living rent free in these DUmbasses cranial cavity.  Half of these idiots probably wouldn't even have known who she was if it wasn't for that movie they produced about her.  DUmmie lurkers please take this small piece of advice(free of course), you have got to move on with your meaningless, insignificant lives and quit living in your hippie drug addled past. 

[Revolution]

Here is a perfect example of how stupid, small, and ignorant these DUmmies are in their lives.  PM Thatcher left office in 1990 and that she is still living rent free in these DUmbasses cranial cavity.  Half of these idiots probably wouldn't even have known who she was if it wasn't for that movie they produced about her.  DUmmie lurkers please take this small piece of advice(free of course), you have got to move on with your meaningless, insignificant lives and quit living in your hippie drug addled past. 

Like asking a frog not to bump it's ass when it hops. Not gonna happen. It's a natural occurrence.