What is it about the left that bothers people?

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devilgrrl  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-09-08 05:19 PM
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What is it about the left that bothers people? And what's so appealing about the Center/Right?
Since that's all we have to choose from in November. Center Right (Obama) and Far Right (McCain).

As far as I'm concerned there's absolutely NOTHING appealing about anything in the center or to the right of it. I can't think of one positive thing that side of the aisle has offered to humanity - especially the past 25+ years. Not one.

So what was it about the "New Deal" that so frightened everyone away?

BlooInBloo  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-09-08 05:21 PM
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1. Combination of DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!!!....
 (b) ****ing commie pinko dirtbags
(c) Accept jesus as your lord and savior
(d) damn ni**er-lovers

= why we're hated by the right.

frogcycle (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-09-08 05:23 PM
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2. can't answer, but can recommend
 you read A. Huffington's "Right is Wrong" for reassurance that you are right. I mean left. 

 

iamahaingttta (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-09-08 06:33 PM
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4. We are a nation of "rugged individualists"...
 ... and anything that smacks of "socialism" scares the shit out of some people.

Our national mythology seems to include the notion that we are each born fully formed, and ready to take on the world. We like to "conquer" and "own" things, we don't need ANY help doing ANYTHING. Just the thought of having to share what you "earned by hard work" freaks out those rugged individualists, they seem to believe that anyone who asks for or needs any help of any kind is a ***** and a wimp.

Our national mythology also includes the notion that anyone can become filthy rich, if they "work" hard enough at it. Most people who get filthy rich do it the old-fashioned way, by inheriting it. Most of those who get filthy rich on their own tend to do it by being in the right place at the right time. It's not that they're any smarter or work any harder than anyone else, they just got lucky. I know a few of filthy rich people, and that's their story. The rest of the filthy rich get that way through exploitation. And those are the ones who promote the mythology. The suckers buy into that mythology because they don't want to be seen as pussies and wimps.

KSCFAN (85 posts)      Mon Jun-09-08 06:47 PM
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5. I'm a libertarian so I'll shed some light.
 I am voting Obama because of his views on shifting the foreign policy from war and empire to diplomacy. That overrides my other concerns. I will write what I believe and you can take away from it what you will.

You are a bit mistaken where you say they believe that anyone who asks or needs help is a wimp. I don't think that is true and I am certainly willing to help when it is needed. The problem is government seems to be unable to see the difference between:
1. Someone that has worked hard but currently needs help to get back on their feet.
2. Someone that is not mentally or physically able to care for themselves
3. Someone that games the system to live off of other peoples hard work.

Now if I give to a private charity and I see them giving too much money to #3 I can find another charity. It seems government has no mechanism to make the value judgments to differentiate between 1 through 3. That is the problem. By looking the other way on #3 you encourage more people that would otherwise work to pick #3.

As for your second comment. You couldn't be more wrong in my experience. I know many people where I work that make about the same amount of money I do. Some are frivolous with their money and they are the ones always complaining about not having enough. Then there are those that are thrifty like myself. I make over $100k a year but I drive an 11 year old Honda Civic. Why? Because it still runs and it is cheap. Plus I can take that extra $500/mo that I would spend on a nice new car and use it to help pay off my mortgage. I see plenty of people making about the same as me driving BMW 5 series. The problem I have is that in 30 years are they going to means test Social Security? If so they will look at my 401k and declare me rich while the guy that blew all of his cash all his life and has nothing will get more? If so then you are subsidizing bad behavior.

sfexpat2000  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-09-08 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. So, basically, you want to control how other people spend their money.
 And, fyi, the current system routinely denies disabled vets and citizens their benefits under the law, not the other way around.

MindPilot (1000+ posts)      Tue Jun-10-08 11:34 AM
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37. The old welfare vs work argument
 Tell us, if collecting welfare is such a better deal than working, why aren't you doing it? Why do you get up and bust your ass every day, scrimp and save for retirement when--according to you--it would be far easier to just go down to the welfare office and get that no-strings-attached check?
What do you do for a living that pays you over $100k? It must be much easier than living off the government dole.

Dumbass 

[Chris_]

Center Right?  hussein the Socialist???

More proof drug use is rampant on $kinner's island.

[Chris_]

frogcycle (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-09-08 05:23 PM
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2. can't answer, but can recommend
 you read A. Huffington's "Right is Wrong" for reassurance that you are right. I mean left. 

There you go...

Go to the head lunatic in charge of the insane assylum for reassurance that you're sane and the rest of the ****in' world is nuts.

[PatriotGame]

devilgrrl  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-09-08 05:19 PM
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What is it about the left that bothers people?

They exist.

[miskie]

Center Right?  hussein the Socialist???

More proof drug use is rampant on $kinner's island.

That seems to be the new message the Dems are spreading -- They are trying to place Obama in the center for electability, while painting McCain as extreme and "Bush III" - Its the same thing they do every election. Their guy is the moderate, everyone else is extreme.

[Chris_]

devilgrrl  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-09-08 05:19 PM
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What is it about the left that bothers people? And what's so appealing about the Center/Right?

Just few quick answers to her question...

1. You cheer America's enemies while condemning our brave soldiers
2. You cheer the murder of unborn babies while condemning the execution of convict murders.
3. You condemn and call for a bloody end to everything that does not fall within your beliefs and to everyone who happens to believe differently while hypocritically trying to paint yourselves as tolerant.
4. You are stupid.

[Ralph Wiggum]

devilgrrl  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-09-08 05:19 PM
Original message
What is it about the left that bothers people? And what's so appealing about the Center/Right?
Since that's all we have to choose from in November. FAR LEFT (Obama) and CENTER LEFT (McCain).

Fixored.

[djones520]

I involuntarily twitched when I saw that...

[TheSarge]

devilgrrl  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jun-09-08 05:19 PM
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What is it about the left that bothers people?

Everything you stand for.

Next question?

[Airwolf]

The fact that they need a list of reasons is scary enough.

[EastFacingNorth]

I think the primary thing is the leftist belief that the ends justify the means.

[djones520]

I think the primary thing is the leftist belief that the ends justify the means.

I could maybe get onboard with that, if the "ends" ever actually worked.

[USA4ME]

sfexpat2000

10. So, basically, you want to control how other people spend your money that they obtained through taxation and redistribution of wealth.

Fixed.

And the answer is "Yes."

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[Odin's Hand]

The general disregard and unabashed contempt for virtues and actions that have molded this nation into what it is and will become for future generations. Also, the unbridled disgust illustrated for Judeo-Christian mores and ethics.

[Chris_]

If Obama is "center right" to you then you're so far left you fell off the planet.

[USA4ME]

devilgrrl

What is it about the left that bothers people?

It's that.. that... that breathing thing. In and out, in and out.  So annoying.

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[jukin]

Complete and utter failure.

Results that do more harm than good (even if the effort made you feel good).

Did I mention failure?

[Georgia Bulldog]

What is it about the left that bothers me?

I could start a list but I don't have that much time on my hands...

From what I've gathered is that anyone who thinks Obama is 'Center Right' is about so far out left that Lenin might seem a bit moderate.

[Chris_]

What is it about the left that bothers me?

I could start a list but I don't have that much time on my hands...

From what I've gathered is that anyone who thinks Obama is 'Center Right' is about so far out left that Lenin might seem a bit moderate.

In other words, a DUmmy.

[Georgia Bulldog]

What is it about the left that bothers me?

I could start a list but I don't have that much time on my hands...

From what I've gathered is that anyone who thinks Obama is 'Center Right' is about so far out left that Lenin might seem a bit moderate.

In other words, a DUmmy.

Exactly!

[Carl]

What bothers me is that leftists scream of tolerance and helping their fellow man while in the quiet times where they don`t think anyone is watching all they yearn for is authoritarianism and stifling opposing thoughts.

That is why Marxism never would work and why it became Communism,enforced at the point of a sword.

Leftists still dream of a world that they rule and enjoy the riches of because they consider themselves entitled.

There is not a word spoken at DU (or allowed to stand long) that contradicts this.

[Duke Nukum]

The Left=bitter know-it-alls who are always wrong about everything but never know it.
Also a lot of lefties smell bad.  Chronic halitosis and non-stop ranting are hard for anyone to love.

[Georgia Bulldog]

It's strange...I considered myself a Democrat until my senior year of high school when one of my teachers had a talk with me about the Conservative side and more or less helped to change my train of thought.

I see how miserable these people on the Left are and it's hard to fathom someone going through life so angry and miserable. That's got to be one pathetic existence.

[Chris_]

It's strange...I considered myself a Democrat until my senior year of high school when one of my teachers had a talk with me about the Conservative side and more or less helped to change my train of thought.

I see how miserable these people on the Left are and it's hard to fathom someone going through life so angry and miserable. That's got to be one pathetic existence.

I've considered myself a Republican ever since I became politically aware, not always a conservative, but I came around eventually.

[Georgia Bulldog]

It's strange...I considered myself a Democrat until my senior year of high school when one of my teachers had a talk with me about the Conservative side and more or less helped to change my train of thought.

I see how miserable these people on the Left are and it's hard to fathom someone going through life so angry and miserable. That's got to be one pathetic existence.

I've considered myself a Republican ever since I became politically aware, not always a conservative, but I came around eventually.

That was what started my political awareness. My teacher asked me who would I have voted for if I had been eighteen. I told him that I'd vote for Clinton instead of Dole. He asked me why and I couldn't give him an answer, or at least I don't believe I had a reason why I'd have voted for him.

I'd better stop, this is sounding sort of like a Reverse Bouncy only with 100% more truth!