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Rev-up your moles, kids
« on: April 02, 2013, 04:34:09 PM »
Never let a crisis go to waste, or so we're told.

Well, the Proglodytes are having a crisis of faith.

So, the next time you're over there be sure to throw a few extra faggots on the fire, to wit:

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White House Arrests Anti-GMO Activist for Delivering Petitions to Label GMOs

 This is downright embarrassing.
What little is left of the Left, is being actively
muzzled and criminalized by the Obama White House.


Another broken promise

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Who knew that Alexis Badden Mayer of the Organic Consumers Association would be arrested outside the White House when she attempted to deliver a DVD Petition with over 200,000 names asking Michelle Obama to ask her husband to fulfill a campaign promise to label GMO food products?
 
There is no more basic American right, than to petition the government, to speak up and have your voice heard as a citizen by your elected representatives – but not if you don’t have the money to buy access to officials who have become more responsive to the interest groups that finance their elections then the people who elected them. And so it was with the petition that called for the truthful labeling of foods containing genetically modified organisms (GMOs). People want to know what they are eating and want food labeling to indicate if the food has been genetically modified.
 
Video is included at this link: http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/2013/03/02/white-house-arrests-gmo-petitioner/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022604426

They are really upset about this Monsanto thingy so be sure to feed their angst about corporate cronyism, fascism, Frankenfoods, etc. Make sure you let them know you are deeply, deeply troubled by these developments. Tell them you want Obama to make good on his campaign promises to label these genetic monstrosities and be sure to toss in a post or two about poisoning our children.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2013, 04:50:45 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on April 02, 2013, 04:34:09 PM
Never let a crisis go to waste, or so we're told.

Well, the Proglodytes are having a crisis of faith.

So, the next time you're over there be sure to throw a few extra faggots on the fire, to wit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022604426

They are really upset about this Monsanto thingy so be sure to feed their angst about corporate cronyism, fascism, Frankenfoods, etc. Make sure you let them know you are deeply, deeply troubled by these developments. Tell them you want Obama to make good on his campaign promises to label these genetic monstrosities and be sure to toss in a post or two about poisoning our children.

Quite a problem, a scam in my mind.   Force farmers to buy this seed every year instead of just planting seed that will regenerate on its own.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2013, 05:32:23 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on April 02, 2013, 04:50:45 PM
Quite a problem, a scam in my mind.   Force farmers to buy this seed every year instead of just planting seed that will regenerate on its own.

Don't farmers usually buy seed every year?  Home gardeners can still buy heirloom seeds and plants.  They also have websites for seed sharing.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2013, 06:14:55 PM »
Quote from: Dori on April 02, 2013, 05:32:23 PM
Don't farmers usually buy seed every year?  Home gardeners can still buy heirloom seeds and plants.  They also have websites for seed sharing.

I'd like Vesta to name one crop that comes up every year without putting down seeds.

Around here it's corn and soy beans and they have to put down seeds every year.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2013, 06:18:40 PM »
Quote from: EagleKeeper on April 02, 2013, 06:14:55 PM
I'd like Vesta to name one crop that comes up every year without putting down seeds.

Around here it's corn and soy beans and they have to put down seeds every year.

I'm not vesta, but I can think of one.

Alfalfa.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2013, 06:23:15 PM »
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There is no more basic American right, than to petition the government,

That right has not been denied. You can't just barge in and make demands. There is a certain protocol that must be followed. Always has been. Always will be.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2013, 06:24:21 PM »
What's a DVD petition?
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2013, 06:25:46 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on April 02, 2013, 06:18:40 PM
I'm not vesta, but I can think of one.

Alfalfa.

I know I may be adding conditions so let me elaborate.

I'm talking about food crops for humans, on a semi-industrial scale. Do humans really eat alfalfa?
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2013, 06:27:57 PM »
Quote from: EagleKeeper on April 02, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
I know I may be adding conditions so let me elaborate.

I'm talking about food crops for humans, on a semi-industrial scale. Do humans really eat alfalfa?

I think Darla did. :tongue:
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2013, 06:30:08 PM »
Do peanuts or potatoes come up every year?
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2013, 06:35:28 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on April 02, 2013, 06:27:57 PM
I think Darla did. :tongue:

Oh dang...that took me a bit.   :thatsright:
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2013, 06:49:48 PM »
Quote from: EagleKeeper on April 02, 2013, 06:14:55 PM
I'd like Vesta to name one crop that comes up every year without putting down seeds.

Around here it's corn and soy beans and they have to put down seeds every year.

I'm not sure, but I think she was talking about the modified seeds that Monsanto produces.  The plant doesn't produce seed or their seeds don't reproduce.  I don't know if farmers that buy seed in bulk can get seeds from other suppliers.  Monsanto is huge and probably has all kinds of patents on theirs.



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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2013, 06:56:17 PM »
As far as I know almost all seeds for vegetables are hybrids of some sort.
One can save from a crop but no telling what will grow from them as they revert.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2013, 07:06:11 PM »
Quote from: Dori on April 02, 2013, 06:49:48 PM
I'm not sure, but I think she was talking about the modified seeds that Monsanto produces.  The plant doesn't produce seed or their seeds don't reproduce.  I don't know if farmers that buy seed in bulk can get seeds from other suppliers.  Monsanto is huge and probably has all kinds of patents on theirs.

Does dekalb produce corn plants that produce seeds or do you have to go back to dekalb every year to plant a corn crop?

Maybe I'm missing the de-tasseling process?

Does anyone know if you have to de-tassel monsanto corn?

Now that I think of it their is volunteer corn in soy bean fields.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2013, 07:30:31 PM »
Quote from: Carl on April 02, 2013, 06:56:17 PM
As far as I know almost all seeds for vegetables are hybrids of some sort.
One can save from a crop but no telling what will grow from them as they revert.

Don't the heirloom vaieties reproduce the same plants?

My house was built where there used to be tomato fields.  I had tomato plants popping up for years.   :-)



   
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2013, 07:42:56 PM »
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There is no more basic American right, than to petition the government, to speak up and have your voice heard as a citizen by your elected representatives
So maybe not hassle Michelle Obama seeing how she has not been elected to anything. And DUmmies, you guys voted for Mr. Obama, he does not need you anymore.  :loser:
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2013, 07:58:58 PM »
Quote from: Dori on April 02, 2013, 05:32:23 PM
Don't farmers usually buy seed every year?  Home gardeners can still buy heirloom seeds and plants.  They also have websites for seed sharing.

Farmers use to be able to save some the seeds from the crop they grew, like corn or soy beans and plant them the next year instead of buying new seed.  However Monsanto and other seed companies have patented their seeds so that it's illegal for the farmer to do that.

IIRC, one farmer was sued because he let corn grow in a field from seeds that weren't harvested.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2013, 07:59:30 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on April 02, 2013, 04:50:45 PM
Quite a problem, a scam in my mind.   Force farmers to buy this seed every year instead of just planting seed that will regenerate on its own.
That isn't the problem.  GMO crops are viable.  That is the reason for all of the lawsuits.  Monsanto claims patents on the genetic structure used in the crops and wants farmers forced to buy from them every year, and once you buy their seeds once, they will never stop harassing you.  Farmers have harvested these seeds and used them the next year, but I don't like that Monsanto sends out a private Army every year to check farms and have even sued farmers who demonstrated they were not using saved Monsanto GMO seeds.

I can understand the patents, but I think with something like genetics, that once it's in the open it spreads due to wind and insect action they should have diminishing claims over ten to twenty years and not a patent forever.  Otherwise, these corporations are going to feel justified in laying claim to human genetic structures as they discover ways to modify them, I'm not comfortable with that.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2013, 08:06:31 PM »
Quote from: Carl on April 02, 2013, 06:56:17 PM
As far as I know almost all seeds for vegetables are hybrids of some sort.
One can save from a crop but no telling what will grow from them as they revert.
Right, we like the recessive traits, bigger and sweeter versus the dominant traits of smaller, and sour.

sweetness x X
Size         X x

If I remember high school biology right.

I used to breed Big Boy Tomatoes in Florida.  It was quite an effort to try and pair the largest ones with the sweetest ones, but I noticed a difference after about ten generation of plants.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2013, 08:07:25 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on April 02, 2013, 07:58:58 PM

IIRC, one farmer was sued because he let corn grow in a field from seeds that weren't harvested.

Now that, is ridiculous.  You would think that one would have to prove some sort of malicious intent/purposeful fraud, etc.

Not a fan of lawyers.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2013, 08:27:17 PM »
Quote from: EagleKeeper on April 02, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
I know I may be adding conditions so let me elaborate.

I'm talking about food crops for humans, on a semi-industrial scale. Do humans really eat alfalfa?

Not yet, but in the Obamanomy, we will be happy to get alfalfa.



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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2013, 08:30:40 PM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on April 02, 2013, 08:07:25 PM
Now that, is ridiculous.  You would think that one would have to prove some sort of malicious intent/purposeful fraud, etc.

Not a fan of lawyers.

And congress is made up of mostly lawyers.
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2013, 08:40:50 PM »
Quote from: Vagabond on April 02, 2013, 08:06:31 PM
Right, we like the recessive traits, bigger and sweeter versus the dominant traits of smaller, and sour.

sweetness x X
Size         X x

If I remember high school biology right.

I used to breed Big Boy Tomatoes in Florida.  It was quite an effort to try and pair the largest ones with the sweetest  :(ones, but I noticed a difference after about ten generation of plants.

When my dad was a young man he worked in citrus orchards.  He said they would use a sour root tree and graft on the sweet fruit.  He said the sour root was more disease resistant.  For the fun of it, they would graft lemons, oranges and grapefruit onto one sour root tree.
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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2013, 11:32:48 PM »
And I also heard today the boy king has no intention of sharing his ever growing war chest with anyone else in the party...like, you know, to help someone win an election or something. I hear some aren't very happy about that! Reap what you sow. Elect a petulant, selfish child who couldn't lead a goldfish to a fish tank and you aren't going to end up with a leader who walks the talk and "shares the wealth". Can't wait to see when it dawns on you all how effectively you've been duped. By a community organizer who grew up in the lap of exclusive white privilege!

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Re: Rev-up your moles, kids
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2013, 01:03:22 PM »
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19. Now that he is reelected, Obama doesn't need the left anymore,

Thus, he feels no compunction to listen to our voices. 
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26. I think you got that right, pun intended. ~nt
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28. Nope. He made that clear from 2009 - 2011. He was back to pretending he did during 2012.

It worked. He got the votes he needed from us. Now he's back to screwing us again.
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24. ****. This. Shit. nt

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